It's possibly higher now especially with PS5's size. A lot of Japanese probably want to save space.3 years ago it was at 18.5% (2018)
Considering that it is actually bigger than many Japanese apartments, it is saying something.
I'm surprised people there sacrifice half their house to this monstrosity.
Easy, if your not an Xbox spaghetti arm.Just imagine trying to move this monster inside your house:
Image is obviously shopped…Just imagine trying to move this monster inside your house:
Thing that no one has touched on. A lot of popular games in Japan are not paid releases. Theres now tons of F2P games from FORTNITE to Genshin Impact. I think a lot of that is not being calculated. If someone can find out how many people are using PS5 in asian territories and what the break down is for F2P games on PS5 install wise in Japan/Asia I think that would solve the discrepancy in software.
Isn't Final Fantasy 14 huge in Japan? WHich also is a PS4 title that a lot already own and probably runs better on PS5?
There is like 2.49 Million active users each day, with over 22 Million players total(people who have installed the game).
Here;s some numbers for 2016: https://playercounter.com/final-fantasy-14-xiv/
I would assume with PS4 growing over there, and now PS5's that number might be larger especially with the fallout from WOW.
I don't see how anyone looks at this and thinks the Japanese market is dead for traditional western games. This is utterly atrocious.PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.
PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold
Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476
VS
PS5 with 1 million milestone
Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
There are indeed unknown factors like digital sales and F2P as you said however the reason why I stated that PS5 software sales are worrisome is that the known physical sales are simply too low, that even factoring in those other factors, give us an hint that the situation is odd.Thing that no one has touched on. A lot of popular games in Japan are not paid releases. Theres now tons of F2P games from FORTNITE to Genshin Impact. I think a lot of that is not being calculated. If someone can find out how many people are using PS5 in asian territories and what the break down is for F2P games on PS5 install wise in Japan/Asia I think that would solve the discrepancy in software.
Isn't Final Fantasy 14 huge in Japan? WHich also is a PS4 title that a lot already own and probably runs better on PS5?
There is like 2.49 Million active users each day, with over 22 Million players total(people who have installed the game).
Here;s some numbers for 2016: https://playercounter.com/final-fantasy-14-xiv/
I would assume with PS4 growing over there, and now PS5's that number might be larger especially with the fallout from WOW.
There are indeed unknown factors like digital sales and F2P as you said however the reason why I stated that PS5 software sales are worrisome is that the known physical sales are simply too low, that even factoring in those other factors, give us an hint that the situation is odd.
After around 10 months PS5 disk version total sales in Japan are around 850K units, with physical software pegged at around 300K units.
That would result in a tie ratio of around 0.35 (only considering the disk based SW/HW) which is extremely low.
This is what prompt many to guess part of the japanese PS5 console sales are being diverted to other Countries.
PS5 has sold 1 million units and the best selling games a handful at about 50k each? And then it drops fast to 20k and less.PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.
PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold
Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476
VS
PS5 with 1 million milestone
Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
That comparison is very misleading.PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.
PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold
Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476
VS
PS5 with 1 million milestone
Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
PS5 has sold 1 million units and the best selling games a handful at about 50k each? And then it drops fast to 20k and less.
So basically, virtually all of them bought it for gaming on old gen/BC games. Even if you added up that list, thats maybe 300k game sales.
It's a very much incomplete comparison since clearly the list is only games that had a physical PS5 version. Not counting any games with free PS5 upgrades and/or no PS5 version at all.That comparison is very misleading.
First it doesn't include all titles sales (it is based on the sales of TOP30 from Famitsu) and not include digital.
So nobody can say the real scenario of the software sales.
For all the Boxts that transformed our balls in Zeppelins by saying that PS5 is doomed in Japan and SX etc is doing great and consoles dead in Japan bs etc.
Does that include digital copies of the games? I would think that is a more prevalent in 2020/2021 than it was in 2014/2015.I don't see how anyone looks at this and thinks the Japanese market is dead for traditional western games. This is utterly atrocious.
GAF is not even the insiders yet still believe that it's BS. Go figure.Yep. I mean you don't even need insider info to know this. Their software numbers are horrible.
Almost as bad as those trying to downplay the consoles sold like they evaporated or something. Scalpers do not buy consoles to toss them in the dumpster.
The mental gymnastics in this thread is crazy.
Don't forget that billions spent on F2P is all monopoly money.Almost as bad as those trying to downplay the consoles sold like they evaporated or something. Scalpers do not buy consoles to toss them in the dumpster.
Is that guy saying $1,500 a month is high? $2,000 a month is about as low as you're going to get in many major cities: Sydney, Hong Kong, Tokyo, New York, San Fran.
In Sydney you could get a really shitty 1 bedder for about $1,200 a month but you really wouldn't want to live there.
And you're 100% right, a senior Cloud Architect is going to be paid roughly $200-300k a year.
I don't think many people have a grasp of how much money we get paid in IT. That's why I always get upset about people bitching about crunch. When you're paid this salary you should shut the fuck up and earn it. When people ask me to work overtime all I can think of is: for the money you're paying me, I'm not complaining
It's the total PS5 hardware sales after the first 43 weeks, roughly 10 months.
It's not a terrible result actually, the worrying part are the software sales.
To give some context:
Catching Xbox One.Where's the Xbox Series X?
Catching Xbox One.
Great?Congrats PS land!
Hopefully it's up from here. Don't get me wrong, it's a great number. But I expect growth.
No, they bought it for Genshin Impact.PS5 has sold 1 million units and the best selling games a handful at about 50k each? And then it drops fast to 20k and less.
So basically, virtually all of them bought it for gaming on old gen/BC games. Even if you added up that list, thats maybe 300k game sales.
Genshin Impact only. They use the phone to play it mobile and the PS5 to play it at home.Seriously, what game is bringing Japanese people to the PS5, exactly? That top 20 is way too skewed to the west side of things. I’m curious.
Top 10 best selling games for the PS2/GBA/GC etc. generation (source: Famitsu)What Japan looked like 20 years ago vs now
Game | System | Publisher | Sales | Updated as |
Animal Crossing: New Horizons | NSW | Nintendo | 9,50 | June 2021 |
Smash Bros. Ultimate | NSW | Nintendo | 5,41 | March 2021 |
Pokémon Sword / Shield | NSW | Pokémon Co. | 5,14 | March 2021 |
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe | NSW | Nintendo | 5,00 | June 2021 |
Splatoon 2 | NSW | Nintendo | 4,69 | March 2021 |
Monster Hunter World | PS4 | Capcom | 3,18 | October 2020 |
Ring Fit Adventure | NSW | Nintendo | 3,06 | June 2021 |
Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! | NSW | Konami | 3,00 | May 2021 |
Super Mario Odyssey | NSW | Nintendo | 2,66 | March 2021 |
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild | NSW | Nintendo | 2,50 | March 2021 |
Super Mario Party | NSW | Nintendo | 2,45 | March 2021 |
Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee | NSW | Pokémon Co. | 2,15 | March 2021 |
What Japan looked like 20 years ago vs now
Week of 2001-08-27
Week of 2021-08-30
Sony’s Fate/Grand Order dominates Japan
Sensor Tower
They are definitely interesting trends in terms of overall but I don't think anything about this is particularly Japanese-specific. Lower number of active platforms, lower number of physical games released and software sales becoming more focuses on mega hits is something we will see in all markets.Top 10 best selling games for the PS2/GBA/GC etc. generation (source: Famitsu)
1) Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire (GBA, Pokemon Co): 5.37M
2) Dragon Quest VIII (PS2, Square Enix): 3.70M
3) Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green (GBA, Pokemon Co): 3.08M
4) Final Fantasy X (PS2, Square Enix): 3.02M
5) Final Fantasy XII (PS2, Square Enix): 2.46M
6) Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2, Square Enix): 2.32M
7) Pokemon Emerald (GBA, Pokemon Co): 2.20M
2) Dragon Quest V (PS2, Square Enix): 1.81M
9) Hot Shots Golf 4 (PS2, SCE): 1.61M
10) Kingdom Hearts II (PS2, Square Enix): 1.58M
Top 10 best selling games for the PS4/NSW etc. generation until recently (most of these games are still selling well week after week), only physical sales (source: Famitsu)
1) Animal Crossing New Horizons (NSW, Nintendo): 6.87M
2) Smash Bros Ultimate (NSW, Nintendo): 4.41M
3) Pokemon Sword/Shield (NSW, Pokemon Co): 4.13M
4) Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (NSW, Nintendo): 4.02M
5) Splatoon 2 (NSW, Nintendo): 3.93M
6) Ring Fit Adventure (NSW, Nintendo): 2.80M
7) Monster Hunter World (PS4, Capcom): 2.57M
8) Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! (NSW, Konami): 2.36M
9) Monster Hunter Rise (NSW, Capcom): 2.32M
10) Super Mario Odyssey (NSW, Nintendo): 2.25M
Of course including digital sales, the totals for the NSW/PS4 games would be higher.
Here a few examples including digital sales taken from Nintendo, Konami and Capcom's sell-in data:
Game System Publisher Sales Updated as Animal Crossing: New Horizons NSW Nintendo 9,50June 2021 Smash Bros. Ultimate NSW Nintendo 5,41March 2021 Pokémon Sword / Shield NSW Pokémon Co. 5,14March 2021 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe NSW Nintendo 5,00June 2021 Splatoon 2 NSW Nintendo 4,69March 2021 Monster Hunter World PS4 Capcom 3,18October 2020 Ring Fit Adventure NSW Nintendo 3,06June 2021 Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! NSW Konami 3,00May 2021 Super Mario Odyssey NSW Nintendo 2,66March 2021 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild NSW Nintendo 2,50March 2021 Super Mario Party NSW Nintendo 2,45March 2021 Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee NSW Pokémon Co. 2,15March 2021
Bizarre.Yeah, it is an odd flex. “You wish they were for JPN gamers, they are all going to China thanks to the huge demand for PS5 there” .
That's physical which is dying. People now buy digitalBest selling game is RE8 at 67K copies sold.
Time for a new spreadsheet/graph I guess.It's a very much incomplete comparison since clearly the list is only games that had a physical PS5 version. Not counting any games with free PS5 upgrades and/or no PS5 version at all.
For example Yakuza: Like A Dragon had a free upgrade from the PS4 version to the PS5 version.
Why are you showing a Top Mobile Games by Worldwide Revenue for a thread about Japan? Wouldn't it be better to use a Japan chart. It's not August 2021, but Q2 2021 from the same Tracking company.What Japan looked like 20 years ago vs now
Week of 2001-08-27
Week of 2021-08-30
Sony’s Fate/Grand Order dominates Japan
Sensor Tower
Care to share with us the data showing this about Biohazard in Japan?That's physical which is dying. People now buy digital
That comparison is very misleading.
First it doesn't include all titles sales (it is based on the sales of TOP30 from Famitsu) and not include digital.
So nobody can say the real scenario of the software sales.