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[ethomaz]

The situation is clear to anyone, as you can easily extrapolate what is happening outside the Top 30 - Switch titles have better legs because there is an active user-base.

Digital is still 20-30% at best for the majority of titles which don't face shortages at launch or aren't part of Nintendo's voucher program.

Most recently we found out that Resident Evil: Village had around 20% digital in Japan at launch, compared to Monster Hunter Rise which faced shortages and had digital of around 50% at launch.

We also know for a fact that the best selling physical game on the PS5 is Village at 67.000, with this type of software sales PS5 is not a viable platform for third parties in Japan. While PS4 has declined greatly as witnessed by Village again having difficulty in selling it's initial shipment regardless of bomba bin sales with 50% discounts.

For third parties it's pretty clear what you need to do in order to be successful in Japan(and outside Japan), as seen by the record financial results posted by Capcom, Konami, Koei Tecmo, Marvelous, Nippon Ichi, you can see it with the figures we do know about from Famitsu's Top 30.

If you are still in denial you are simply not wanting to see the forest for the trees but a ecosystem that can't even support 10% market share in Japan is simply not viable for third parties focused on the market going forward. PS will continue to get AAA games but outside of Square Enix, Capcom & From Software - Japanese third parties don't develop a lot of AAA games. Bandai has one game that I would classify as AAA - Tekken; Sega has one which is Total War; Koei has one which is Nioh - nothing is really at Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter type budget.

Famitsu Top 50 Third Party 2021:

1. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) - 2.318.363
2. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu (Konami) - 1.125.838
3. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft) - 463.855
4. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town (Marvelous) – 281.140
5. [NSW] Monster Hunter Stories 2 (Capcom) - 227.554
6. [PS4] Resident Evil Village (Capcom) - 191.983
7. [NSW] Baseball Spirits 2021 (Konami) - 186.042
8. [NSW] Crayon Shin-Chan (Neos) - 183.733
9. [PS4] NieR Replicant (Square Enix) - 158.265
10. [NSW] Bravely Default II (Square Enix) – 136.091
11. [NSW] Rune Factory 5 (Marvelous) - 127.968
12. [NSW] Yu-Gi-Oh! Rush Duel (Konami) - 127.221
13. [NSW] Fitness Boxing 2 (Imagineer) - 108.222
14. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 100.806
15. [NSW] Human Fall Flat (Teyon Japan) - 85.310
16. [NSW] Little Nightmares II (Bandai Namco) - 72.796
17. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 5 (Koei Tecmo) - 72.727
18. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco) - 70.964
19. [NSW] Fishing Spirits (Bandai Namco) - 68.180
20. [PS5] Resident Evil Village (Capcom) - 67.000
21. [NSW] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin (Marvelous) - 65.620
22. [NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (Koei Tecmo) - 62.119
23. [NSW] Samurai Warriors 5 (Koei Tecmo) - 61.350
24. [NSW] Minecraft Dungeons (Microsoft) - 59.256
25. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Sega) - 40.688
26. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (Sega) - 36.105
27. [NSW] Family Trainer (Bandai Namco) - 35.273
28. [PS4] Scarlet Nexus(Bandai Namco) - 31.665
29. [PS4] Biomutant (THQ Nordic) - 30.292
30. [NSW] Densha de Go!! (Square Enix) - 29.624
31. [NSW] Apex Legends: Champion Edition (Electronic Arts) - 29.057
32. [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 (Konami) - 27.539
33. [NSW] Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny (Nippon Ichi) - 25.744
34. [NSW] Jack Jeanne (Broccoli) - 25.518
35. [PS4] Little Nightmares II (Bandai Namco) - 24.968
36. [PS4] Judgment [New Price Edition] (Sega) - 24.271
37. [PS5] Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Square Enix) - 23.491
38. [NSW] Neo: The World Ends with You (Square Enix) - 22.028
39. [NSW] The Quintessential Quintuplets Double Integral (Mages.) - 20.374
40. [NSW] A-Train: All Aboard! Tourism (Artdink) - 20.043
41. [PS4] Disgaea 6 (Nippon Ichi) - 18.289
42. [NSW] The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (Capcom) – 18.197
43. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 16.352
44. [PS4] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin (Marvelous) - 16.235
45. [NSW] Angelique Luminarise (Koei Tecmo) - 14.506
46. [PS4] Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection (Koei Tecmo) - 14.483
47. [NSW] Winning Post 9 2021 (Koei Tecmo) - 14.368
48. [PS4] NieR: Automata - GotY Edition (Square Enix) - 13.712
49. [PS4] Guilty Gear: Strive (Arc System) - 13.574
50. [PS4] Winning Post 9 2021 (Koei Tecmo) - 13.221

TOTAL: 6.995.225

NSW TOTAL: 6.264.697 (89.6%)
PS4 TOTAL: 640.037 (9.1%)
PS5 TOTAL: 90.491 (1.3%)

Top 10 Third Party Publishers

1. Capcom - 2.823.097 (40.4%)
2. Konami - 1.466.640 (21%)
3. Microsoft - 523.111 (7.5%)
4. Square Enix - 500.369 (7.2%)
5. Marvelous - 490.963 (7%)
6. Bandai Namco - 303.846 (4.3%)
7. Other - 268.201 (3.8%)
8. Koei Tecmo - 252.774 (3.6%)
9. Neos - 183.733 (2.6%)
10. Imagineer - 108.222 (1.5%)
11. Sega - 101.064 (1.4%)

So you don't have the data like I said?
Misleading.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Care to share with us the data showing this about Biohazard in Japan?

There is no data that shows that physical is dying. According to Chris who makes these threads, Biohazard has a 20% digital ratio in Japan.

 

[noshten]

So you don't have the data like I said?
Misleading.

The situation is very clear, this year PS Ecosystem is heading for under 10% of third party sales in Japan.
We are going to get an official Top 100 in January 2022 which will confirm that the trends observed within the Top 30 are part of the larger picture.
Wonder where you will move the goal post when that happens?

 

[ethomaz]

The situation is very clear, this year PS Ecosystem is heading for under 10% of third party sales in Japan.
We are going to get an official Top 100 in January 2022 which will confirm that the trends observed within the Top 30 are part of the larger picture.
Wonder where you will move the goal post when that happens?

When you show the full data to all titles lol
I thought it was obvious.

Without data your speculation can be true or false.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Of course PS5 sells in Japan.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

When you show the full data to all titles lol
I thought it was obvious.

Without data your speculation can be true or false.

This cope doesn't work because everything past the top 100 barely sells any copies. It could be 100% Playstation and it would still amount to basically nothing.

 

[NickFire]

Digital is still 20-30% at best for the majority of titles which don't face shortages at launch or aren't part of Nintendo's voucher program.

Is this claimed 20-30% limited to Japan, or are we talking every market. Either way, sounds very unlikely to me. At least in the US.

 

[ethomaz]

This cope doesn't work because everything past the top 100 barely sells any copies. It could be 100% Playstation and it would still amount to basically nothing.

Sorry but can you show the data? I prefer to have my own interpretation of the data that you have in your hands but nobody else has.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Sorry but can you show the data? I prefer to have my own interpretation of the data that you have in your hands but nobody else has.

I guess the cope works if you choose to be ignorant about how numbers work. I underestimated you

 

[ethomaz]

I guess the cope works if you choose to be ignorant about how numbers work. I underestimated you

So you made you the claims? You don't have any data?

Shocked.

 

[noshten]

Is this claimed 20-30% limited to Japan, or are we talking every market. Either way, sounds very unlikely to me. At least in the US.

I'm talking about Japan which is the topic of this thread.
Digital has started increasing since Nintendo introduced their voucher program, as seen by Media Create's CY White Book(credit to Chris):

 

[NickFire]

I'm talking about Japan which is the topic of this thread.
Digital has started increasing since Nintendo introduced their voucher program, as seen by Media Create's CY White Book(credit to Chris):

That's a pretty graph but it does not prove digital only comprises 20-30% of PS5 software sales.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Cool. The more systems sold, the more games made. Still trying to get my hands on one though.

 

[noshten]

That's a pretty graph but it does not prove digital only comprises 20-30% of PS5 software sales.

Yeah it's probably less

 

[Petaya Berry]

There is no data that shows that physical is dying. According to Chris who makes these threads, Biohazard has a 20% digital ratio in Japan.

It is weird for me when people need to invent things to defend a console. Go figure.