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PS5 sells over 1M in Japan (faster than PS4)

Punished Miku

Gold Member
Considering that it is actually bigger than many Japanese apartments, it is saying something.
that is true stephen colbert GIF by Obama
 

Tschumi

Member
But but but i thought Sony was a dead fish in Japan

Edit: although ps3 had a better showing towards the end of its lifespan, it's hardly the same magnitude of platform as PS4 from which to spring into a new generation
 
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reksveks

Member
Safe to say most of those consoles were no longer in Japan based on low sell through numbers of software sold.
And/or the buyers are a group of people whom are just playing digital and most likely f2p games.

The article didn't say it but how long did the ps2 and 3 take to hit 1m
 

Tschumi

Member
Safe to say most of those consoles were no longer in Japan based on low sell through numbers of software sold.
You're correlating how many games have been purchased with how many consoles have been bought? Implying they've been scalped overseas? That seems a bit of a disingenuous stretch...

What about buying the console ASAP, regardless of short term purchase plans? I live here, there are like 9 ps5 games on shelves in stores here, but everyone is going into lotteries to get PS5s... They'll have their eyes on games like GT7 and FFXVI and the like, i reckon..
 

yurinka

Member
So this means Japanese PS5 console shipments & sales are way under 10% of the worldwide sales. I didn't check out the number of Japanese sales the week they announced PS5 sales achieved 10M worldwide, but it should be a small percentage of the worldwide sales.

Best selling game is RE8 at 67K copies sold.
In retail, only when reached the top 30 and over 70% of the worldwid Sony consoles game sales are digital. So the amount of copies this game sold in Japan must be pretty higher.

What's the relevance of this?
Almost zero because it's an incomplete, misleading number that very likely doesn't even reflect half of the units this game sold in Japan.
 
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Ol'Scratch

Member
Just out of curiosity, do other countries have different scalping laws?
I know pretty much USA/Canada/UK and much of Europe are in the scalper crunch
 
The numbers look good. But is there a way to even get one at msrp there, other than that gambling way or lottery? Or is it the scalpers who've hoarded the majority of this 1 million?
 

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Great news, now they need to figure a way to sell software as well.
 

[Sigma]

Member
But but but i thought Sony was a dead fish in Japan

Edit: although ps3 had a better showing towards the end of its lifespan, it's hardly the same magnitude of platform as PS4 from which to spring into a new generation
It basically is though(at least currently). They're not buying any games. That means those consoles are ending up somewhere else.
 
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Bodomism

Banned
You're correlating how many games have been purchased with how many consoles have been bought? Implying they've been scalped overseas? That seems a bit of a disingenuous stretch...

What about buying the console ASAP, regardless of short term purchase plans? I live here, there are like 9 ps5 games on shelves in stores here, but everyone is going into lotteries to get PS5s... They'll have their eyes on games like GT7 and FFXVI and the like, i reckon..
PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.

PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold

Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476

VS


PS5 with 1 million milestone

Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
 
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jigglet

Banned
Um that salary doesn't look very high for a fucking MS Cloud Architect. What's going on there lol

Is that guy saying $1,500 a month is high? $2,000 a month is about as low as you're going to get in many major cities: Sydney, Hong Kong, Tokyo, New York, San Fran.

In Sydney you could get a really shitty 1 bedder for about $1,200 a month but you really wouldn't want to live there.

And you're 100% right, a senior Cloud Architect is going to be paid roughly $200-300k a year.

I don't think many people have a grasp of how much money we get paid in IT. That's why I always get upset about people bitching about crunch. When you're paid this salary you should shut the fuck up and earn it. When people ask me to work overtime all I can think of is: for the money you're paying me, I'm not complaining :)
 
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Tschumi

Member
It basically is though(at least currently). They're not buying any games. That means those consoles are ending up somewhere else.
Like i said earlier, that's a logical jump that can only be born of a tilted perspective. There are very few games to buy, fewer genres, people are buying it for games yet to come out, that's the more likely reason, occam's razor
 

ranmafan

Member
I was looking to potentially move to Shibuya and get a job at Microsoft as a Cloud Architect. 350 SQ FT apartment was $1500/month. Like what?
I remember being lucky living in Yotsuya in a dorm my college year here in Japan. Compared with what others were paying to live there, I was practically given a huge break. Makes me glad to l live outside Tokyo with my own house in the countryside. Cheaper and bigger than I would ever had gotten had I stayed in Tokyo.

as for ps5 sales, not as good as the ps1/ps2 glory days but it’s good to see its doing better than PS4. Most of my friends here are still trying to find one with no luck. Glad I got lucky with amazon.
 

Tschumi

Member
PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.

PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold

Top 10 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476


PS5 with 1 million milestone

Top 10 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
17. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263

19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
You seem to be talking about someone else's quote
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.

PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold

Top 10 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476


PS5 with 1 million milestone

Top 10 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
Isn't it reasonable to see this as a symptom of a rather good percentage of PS5 consoles being sold yes, but then being held by scalpers? I mean there are 70 thousand ebay listings as I type this and I might be mistaken but I do not see scalpers being big on buying games.
 

Robb

Gold Member
Nice to see them hit this milestone faster than Ps4! Hope they manage to do better over there this gen.

I'm hoping Capcom announces Monster Hunter World 2 soon, that alone would do wonders for Ps5 in Japan I'd assume.
 

supernova8

Banned
Demand is higher than it normally would be because we're all stuck indoors (in Japan) plus there are plenty of scalper listings so if we're talking sales from shops then yeah of course they're all being bought up. There's really no risk at all buying a PS5 right now because you can just play it for a bit and then sell it second-hand for more than you paid for it anyway (if you can get it at MSRP).

I'll be more interested to see what the numbers look like once the pandemic is over and all that stay-at-home demand fizzles out (and consumption moves back over from goods to services).
 
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Bodomism

Banned
Isn't it reasonable to see this as a symptom of a rather good percentage of PS5 consoles being sold yes, but then being held by scalpers? I mean there are 70 thousand ebay listings as I type this and I might be mistaken but I do not see scalpers being big on buying games.
China's grey market and sea market are the primary locations of where those consoles might end up.
 

Rivet

Member
PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.

PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold

Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476

VS


PS5 with 1 million milestone

Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901

PS5 is sold with PS+ collection included, with a lot of great games for free. Attach rates will always be lower when you give away that many games.
 

lachesis

Member
Not so sure of scalpers nor I'm denying there aren't any - but I also think many of them are playing older PS4 games with it like I'm doing.

I bought a launch PS5 - but my only native PS5 game is Astro. I'm enjoying it right now as more like Super PS4 Pro to be honest.
(Just platinummed Persona 5 Strikers - and before that, Ys 9)
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
PS5 is sold with PS+ collection included, with a lot of great games for free. Attach rates will always be lower when you give away that many games.
Also only looking at physical sales there apparently. Almost as if he wanted to talk about some other major player and their sales, but had yet to find the right way to bring them in without being labelled as console warring… ;).
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Yeah, it looks like a lot of these aren’t staying in Japan because of all the scalping from other companies. Which seems to definitely be true considering the abysmal software sales. I think Japan is done :(
 
PS5 has very atrocious attach rate even in comparison to PS4.

PS4 with 1 million milestone hardware sold

Top 20 software
1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 144.689
2. Yakuza Ishin! - 137.213
3. GTAV - 135.665
4. Destiny - 123.094
5. Battlefield 4 - 121.054
6. Watch dogs - 97.445
7. FIFA 14 - 87.788
8. COD Advance Warfare - 84.433
9. The evil within - 71.174
10. FF XIV - 67.822
11. TLOU Remastered - 59.638
12. Tomb Raider DE - 56.182
13. Infamous SS - 56.044
14. Killzone SF - 55.751
15. AC Unity - 52.037
16. AC BF - 48.509
17. Winning Eleven 2015 - 48.498
18. Dragon Age: Inquisition - 48.497
19. Dynasty Warriors 8 extreme - 43.634
20. COD Ghost - 40.476

VS


PS5 with 1 million milestone

Top 20 software
1. RE8 - 67.000
2. Demon's Souls Remake - 51.796
3. Spider-Man MM - 43.692
4. FF7R - 23.491
5. R&C Rift apart - 17.850
6. Ghost Tsushima DC - 17.271
7. Judgement - 14.749
8. Scarlet Nexus - 12.785
9. COD BLOPS - 10.969
10. Returnal - 9.148
11. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - 7.682
12. Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - 6.022
13. Godfall - 5.725
14. Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 3.112
15. Neptunia ReVerse - 2.984
16. Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 2.861
17. Watch Dogs: Legion - 2.545
18. Fortnite: The Last Laugh Bundle - 2.263
19. NBA 2K21 - 2.057
20. Immortals: Fenyx Rising - 1.901
1.7m vs 300k

And people act like this is not a big deal or that somehow digital sales are now big in Japan. PS5 software numbers are absolutely abysmal, no way around it.
 
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