Calverz
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Horizon Forbidden West Delayed to Q1 2022 (broke by Grubb, verified by Schreier)
- Thread starter OceanGaming
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So, Arkane, one of the Xbox studios is carrying PlayStation exclusives in fall?
Who would have thought...
It's funny how tables have turned. Sony had Miles Morales, Ratchet, Demon Souls and Returnal and now they have literally nothing for fall (outside of few indies), meanwhile Microsoft had nothing first few month, but now they have Psychonauts 2, Flight Sim, Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and Age of Empires IV.
Who would have thought...
It's funny how tables have turned. Sony had Miles Morales, Ratchet, Demon Souls and Returnal and now they have literally nothing for fall (outside of few indies), meanwhile Microsoft had nothing first few month, but now they have Psychonauts 2, Flight Sim, Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and Age of Empires IV.
aged poorlyHe also said Starfield was coming this year ... and Battlefield would be on game pass day 1.
And he said Xbox Live would be free.
Oh and he said Nintendo was gonna put out 4K Switch Pro this year lol
James Sawyer Ford
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All I gotta say is this:
1. this game better be a masterpiece. 5 years for a fairly safe sequel would be a massive disappointment
2. GG better have game #2 ready within 1-2 years of HZ2
3. cross-gen looking like a dumber decision. 90% of this games sales will be on ps5
SlimySnake
1. this game better be a masterpiece. 5 years for a fairly safe sequel would be a massive disappointment
2. GG better have game #2 ready within 1-2 years of HZ2
3. cross-gen looking like a dumber decision. 90% of this games sales will be on ps5
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mckmas8808
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Just a fair warning here as I'm going to watch this thread, as well as others. Please keep the subject about the actual subject and not turn it into a console war. Start a new thread if you want to debate who's winning the Q3/Q4 title for games on your preferred system.
mckmas8808
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abacab driver
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
This mother fucker looks like Mick Foley with an anal insertion
Marty-McFly
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Well I guess this means I'm getting and XBX for sure. 
I was on the fence but Flight Simulator looks tasty. Forza Horizon looks great. I love Doom Eternal it's an all time favourite. I'm not missing the next Doom.
Goodbye Sony, maybe we will meet again.
I was on the fence but Flight Simulator looks tasty. Forza Horizon looks great. I love Doom Eternal it's an all time favourite. I'm not missing the next Doom.
Goodbye Sony, maybe we will meet again.
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mckmas8808
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That doesn't matter at all. If you want to play that game, I'm sure 50 million people have "played" Horizon Zero Dawn if you count how many gamers have played it on PSNow, PS+, and have bought the game used and borrowed the game from a friend or family member. LOL!
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HeisenbergFX4
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Those greasy fingers all over that piece of hardware gross.
Fake
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Bad ideia. In fact, 2022 is shaping to become one the best years for game, but overall will be a easy GOTY pick for BOTW2.
abacab driver
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What if they delayed GT7, Ragnarok amd Forbidden West because they realize nothing else from 1st party will be ready for next year?
mckmas8808
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The only game I remember them doing that for was GT7. What other games or ads did they do this for?
TheGodfather07
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right? player numbers is a stupid metric. what if 90% of that number just tried it on gamepass for a while and never touched it again? it doesnt really tell us anyhting.
mckmas8808
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No way this is possible.
kingfey
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Announcing the games at their event. Not saying anything about the platform. Then announcing the platform later time. Hyping gow2 and hfw, just to say cross gen.
It was all communication fault. Deceptive marketing, to hype your product. It worked.
Its also the reason why Playstation owners, were pissed when those games were said to come for ps4.
I have no bone in this matter. This is what people were talking about. Please don't crucify me for this.
skit_data
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Looks like 2022 is stacked at least. GT7, GoW Ragnarök and Horizon FW. 2021 hasn’t been bad anyway by any means, with Returnal (my GOTY), R&C Rift Apart. Demon’s Souls lasted a bit into 2020 as well.
I also have a sneaking suspicion Sony might have an ace up their sleeve for holiday that they haven’t revealed yet.
I also have a sneaking suspicion Sony might have an ace up their sleeve for holiday that they haven’t revealed yet.
mckmas8808
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No reason for you to be crucified. I'd say it was smart marketing. Was I tricked into thinking some of those games would be PS5 only? Yes, but after seeing Horizon 2 I couldn't care less. My biggest issue isn't the marketing, but the delays at this point. Covid didn't help and I'm starting to believe that making the game run great on the PS4 is part of the reason these delays are happening.
mckmas8808
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People better hope this BlueBox thing is just an indie hype man with nothing to show. Because if the conspiracy is true.....
Dabaus
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Ive tallked alot of crap about them but the stars are sort of aligning for MS to have a good holiday this year unless sony Money hatted a big third party game we dont know about yet.
Edit: I wonder if they took the criticism of Aloys face to heart and is part of the reason for the delay? I mean WHAT were they thinking?
Edit: I wonder if they took the criticism of Aloys face to heart and is part of the reason for the delay? I mean WHAT were they thinking?
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Physiognomonics
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It doesn't surprise me. What they showed didn't look next-gen: 30fps without ray tracing. It looked mainly like Horizon running at native 4K. I blame Insomniac who raised the bar too high.
Agent X
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The news of the delay is disappointing, but I'd prefer that Guerrilla take the time they need to polish the game and make it as good as possible. Horizon Zero Dawn was an awesome game, which I have invested a lot of time playing. I have confidence that the sequel will turn out awesome as well.
kingfey
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The devs home country was on lockdown.
MrS
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A truly awful take. Calling it a FedEx simulator shows you haven't played it or understood it.
kingfey
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This is to be blamed. Corona lockdown are making devs work harder.
skit_data
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I think its clear at this point that its no indie game. Is it a MGS Remake, or Silent Hill maybe?People better hope this BlueBox thing is just an indie hype man with nothing to show. Because if the conspiracy is true.....
Whatever it is, there is too much wierd stuff going on for it to be a no-name indie game. It might be a later release though, hopefully we will get to know soon!
Umbasaborne
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Same boat. Ive been slowly going through returnal, and ill play kena, but otherwise thats probably the most use its getting for the rest of the year. My series x on the other hand has and will be getting a ton of use now and in the next few months. Hopefully next year sony will have a more consistant caidence of releases
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Cool, cancel the fucking PS4 verison then if you gonna keep delaying shit.
R6Rider
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Definitely no flaw in this logic.
TheGodfather07
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remember how people kept comparing horizon and breath of the wild even though they are really nothing alike? funny how both sequels will be out in the same year. its going to be dejavu. though neither will be goty imo.
MrS
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Proving my point.
TheGodfather07
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did you even play it yourself? if no, than your opinion means jack shit.
Agent X
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As someone who has a PS4 but not a PS5 (yet), it certainly doesn't bother me.
I do understand your point, though.
ManaByte
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Yes, I liked it for the first day. Then hated it after the second.
Marty-McFly
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Another thing that pissed me off.
Why make the Ratchet franchise next gen only but not Horizon?
Ridiculous decision Horizon is the game to make your next gen only graphics showcase.
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CamHostage
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Right, the original GT7 video did not have that overlay graphic, it only said "PlayStation Exclusive". And then it was added into the December PS5 commercial, before the specter of cross-gen loomed in June. (BTW, Godfall also got that overlay in the same commercial.) Often wires get crossed in promotional departments (in January of that month, Sony Corp gave out some upcoming PS5 release dates yet every single one of them was wrong,) but that's a bad look now.
(Some rumors say GT7 PS4 version wasn't decided until recently, but we may never know the full story even after it's released. And we still don't know when or what form these PS4 companion releases will take or who's porting them, they may be day-and-date by the original team or they may be follow-up projects, who knows what's going on behind the scenes.)
No, can't blame them, it would have been almost impossible to read between the lines when Sony was indicating it had no lines in its generation beliefs to read between...
But it is a little weird to me how much people just harbor piss about it, given how cross-gen has worked out so far. The lie sucked, but the games have been fine. Cross-gen has not been the problem, and meanwhile few studios have demonstrated technology in even games planned for 2022 that is capable of exploiting "true" next-gen yet.
Like, if you look at the comments on Horizon, it's June 2020, July, August = Amazing, Amazing, Amazing!... Sept 2020 = Meh, cross-gen. You can do the same for Spidey and GT7. There's these posts of, "Oh great, now GT7 won't have crash damage," as if Gran Turismo ever did or will have crash damage. "Horizon now can't have flying mounts!" Eh, they could figure out flight if they wanted to (you could cheat-fly in the first game.) Nothing changed about the trailers; everything changed about how people saw them. Nobody saw this in June of last year and went, "Goddamned PS4 could do that easily..."
It would have been smarter for Sony to have never let out that "We believe in generations" comment, and to instead say something more to the effect of we will make the most of PS5 in every way possible and consider other platforms as secondary options (which is basically the messaging now.) Then, if people saw next-gen in the June and Sept shows, that's what they saw, cross-gen or not behind the scenes. Instead, Jim Ryan went for some kind of slam, and nobody knows why since obviously many of their own games were scheduled for the same cross-gen approach.
For sure, there will be and to some degree have been games that take full advantage of the next-generation hardware, games that cannot be scaled/ported down without drastic consequences. As it is right now, though, unless you're really relying on that SSD, (or unless you've got Azure feeding your skies a stream from 2.5 petabytes of data... incidentally, Flight Sim was potentially going to be cross-gen, but luckily Asobo never had to figure out how the heck to do it...) there's usually a way to chop a project down enough to get it to run on even 8-year-old hardware. The Halo Infinity showing put the LOL into the cross-gen conversation (which is interesting since beforehand MS was all about how cross-gen for the first few years was a perfectly viable approach for both amazing next-gen games and playable past-gen options; since then, they've totally forgotten Xbox One existed and have taken it off listings for all the games that were originally listed as cross-gen), but Halo had way more problems than that and IMO little if anything is cross-gen's fault. (Look at how stellar FH5 looks, and it's on both gens.) Sony's messaging sucked, but looking at the overreaction for any cross-gen mentions and the sandbagging of hype of anything that adds a past-gen platform, it's a damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't situation.
PS4 isn't what's putting this release date in danger (they could always slip back the past-gen copies if they had to split them up.)
Also, canceling a PS4 port will not make a PS5 version suddenly bump up in powers.
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kingfey
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kingfey
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bitbydeath
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PS5 devkits weren’t around when Horizon started development. Insomniac are magicians and can spin-up AAA games in under two years.
sainraja
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I think most likely it was just a decision that the studio made, given the design of their game. If the game you end up designing can work on all available systems to you, why would you not put it there?
Marty-McFly
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