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Covid 19 Thread: [no bitching about masks of Fauci edition]

sinnergy

Member
Seems that 60% of the UK hospitalizations have had 2 jabs .. but are they after 2 weeks of the second jab , if so that’s a bad sign .. and that’s before opening up..
 

CloudNull

Banned
You could take two seconds to Google what that tweet had in it to see that it is being reported across all mainstream platforms (which are so much more reliable.....) or even just Google the AAP.....
I had no idea disclose.tv was an actual website and just followed the twitter. They often break news before the rest of the media. Funny people are still arguing info does not come from correct sources even when factual.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
I had no idea disclose.tv was an actual website and just followed the twitter. They often break news before the rest of the media. Funny people are still arguing info does not come from correct sources even when factual.

use reliable sources. for obvious reasons. not hard (•́‿•̀
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
translation: stop using sources I don't approve of!

I ask again, why would you care about the messenger when it is citing primary sources?
obviously it's fine if the primary source is cited in the article, but why not skip the political narrative garbage? only serves to muddle the truth
 

CloudNull

Banned
use reliable sources. for obvious reasons. not hard (•́‿•̀
Like Cnn?

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“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - Dr. Dre or some one important

You do you and stick to your approved sources and I will do me.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Like Cnn?

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“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - Dr. Dre or some one important

You do you and stick to your approved sources and I will do me.

that's what I'm saying bro; don't use shit sources like CNN. people are reading this shit and not able to make good judgments
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
The below is from an online blog I read.

Israel has one of the highest vaccine-acceptance rates in the world, and started vaccinating its population in earnest earlier than nearly every other country. Yet, according to Israeli figures released over the weekend, infections there have increased by over THIRTY TIMES during the last month. More curiously, hospitalizations — serious cases — are up more than thirteen times in the same period of time.
So, in actual numbers, during June the country was averaging about five hospitalizations per week. Last week there were sixty-eight (68).
While the numbers are still much lower than at Israel’s peak, the trend is in the wrong direction for a country that has vaccinated so many of its citizens. Clearly Israel is entering a new Covid wave, and the emerging hospitalization data strongly suggests that the vaccines are NOT, as the CDC claims, preventing serious cases in any significant way.
The Israeli government has abandoned hope that the vaccines are any kind of Holy Grail or miracle cure for Covid. “Anyone who hoped that vaccines on their own would solve the problem — they won’t,” Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said at an emergency meeting in Tel Aviv attended by ministers, health officials, national security council members, police and the military.
Bennet explained that, after six months of experience with them, the Israelis still have no idea how much the vaccines help reduce Covid, but the data does not appear to show any measurable helpful effects. “We don’t know exactly to what extent the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less [than expected] … We all hope to see a slowdown, but the facts at the moment are that there isn’t a slowdown — not here and not around the world.”

The SAGE group presented a regular report to the UK government on July 7, and included a point clarifying that it is the LEAKY VACCINES and the vaxx people — not the naturally-immune people — that are the risks for creating more difficult variants. Quoting the report:
> A “Combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge.”

The tiny country of Gibraltar was the most-vaccinated country in the world, having fully vaccinated every single eligible citizen by April. But now, 2.5 months later, Gibraltar has the third highest per-capita rate of Covid infection on Earth. Over 80% of Gilbraltar’s Covid cases over the past two days are in folks who were “fully” vaccinated.
Apparently, 100% vaccination does NOT lead to zero Covid.
Sounds like anti vaxx nonsense.

the UK has 48000 cases a day and 40 deaths. The last time they were averaging that many cases pre vaccine they were average 500 deaths a day.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Holy shit, what a blunder. Reuters just updated the story with this:


"Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference," Vallance said on Twitter. "About 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are currently from unvaccinated people."

Still not great, considering the share of unvaccinated has been trending upwards vs. the share of unvaccinated hospitalizations dropping, but goddamn, how to not be careful with your words.
 
obviously it's fine if the primary source is cited in the article, but why not skip the political narrative garbage? only serves to muddle the truth

People are forced to seek out the truth among all the partisan alternative sources because there is no clear definitive source to turn to. Often these alternative sources are breaking stories that mainstream sources won't touch until they gain traction and they can't ignore them anymore. If the info is good the info is good, I agree dubious sources don't lend a story any legitimacy but what even is a legitimate source at this point?
 
Are you going to post your take or just copy/ paste stuff? Especially last tweet can be countered with ‘fuckton of old people died because of Covid because young people couldn’t sit on their asses at home’.
Dude chill. He's posting things that are clearly relevant to the thread. Did you even read the article? Your passive-aggressive authoritarian tendencies are embarrassing
 

Chaplain

Member



From midnight tonight a ring of steel will surround 110 Sydney suburbs across Liverpool, Fairfield and Canterbury-Bankstown as part of the NSW Premier’s ‘no regrets policy’. This comes after the state recorded 111 new COVID-19 infections from 82,000 tests.

Are you going to post your take or just copy/ paste stuff?

I post what I find to keep people informed in this thread. I would rather have the news articles speak for themselves. If someone has a question, however, I will do my best to respond. ^_^
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I figured Dune would be out (October 22) by the time theatres got back to full health.

But with increasing cases & talk of the variants its evident they are never getting back to full health. A widespread American tradition gone just like that, turned niche/enthusiast overnight. The last 10 years it was mostly just capeshit taking up the screen real estate but its still bitter to swallow.
 

vpance

Member


They don't need to mandate it because they could simply put it in the food or water supply at anytime, if they wanted to :messenger_smirking:

I've heard reports that describe most over there still being vaccine hesitant, maybe even more so than in the west. Their vaccines are traditional I believe and they aren't in a hurry for MRNA ones either. Time to learn Chinese I suppose.
 

CloudNull

Banned
They don't need to mandate it because they could simply put it in the food or water supply at anytime, if they wanted to :messenger_smirking:

I've heard reports that describe most over there still being vaccine hesitant, maybe even more so than in the west. Their vaccines are traditional I believe and they aren't in a hurry for MRNA ones either. Time to learn Chinese I suppose.
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Social credit score here I come. I am an outstanding citizen lol.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Nah. They just post random links and statements that supports a particular view they like to push. If you go back through the thread you can see the theme.


You'll also notice that the sources are rarely if ever reliable. The ones he posted above being a good example of that. No news sources, no verified accounts, etc.

Damn this is some weak ass shit. Why do you make these kind of generalizations? Your characterization of what Game Analyst posts is not fair at all, either. He shares all sorts of stuff in this thread.
 

Chaplain

Member
Nah. They just post random links and statements that supports a particular view they like to push. If you go back through the thread you can see the theme.


You'll also notice that the sources are rarely if ever reliable. The ones he posted above being a good example of that. No news sources, no verified accounts, etc.

Careful with your hasty generalizations. I have been posting things from a variety of sources since the pandemic began. A very small percentage gets posted from non-news-sources (like a few recently).
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Really depressing story here of a mom that bought into all the conspiracy nonsense. Now her daughter is on deaths door because she refused to have her vaccinated.

 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Careful with your hasty generalizations. I have been posting things from a variety of sources since the pandemic began. A very small percentage gets posted from non-news-sources (like a few recently).
If that's the case then I apologize and I'll edit my post. I've only seen you post stuff from random nobodies on Twitter.
 

vpance

Member
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Social credit score here I come. I am an outstanding citizen lol.

Go for it lol. If you're a good looking white guy it will pay off even more. Just have to watch what you say and not mess up like Cena did.

If the entire world is going communist, it's probably best to live in the place that frowns upon SJWs and their ideologies. There's still some redeemable parts of Chinese cultural tradition, like promoting strong family ties.
 
So much disinformation, someone close to me told me the Covid vaccines are going to kill all people who took it in the near future because "the powerful people want to kill everyone who took it for some reason", and since I took it I will die soon. I asked when 1-5-10 years from now, of course, could not answer it. Also, was told I live in a fantasy world because I believe vaccines save lives.
 
Are you going to post your take or just copy/ paste stuff? Especially last tweet can be countered with ‘fuckton of old people died because of Covid because young people couldn’t sit on their asses at home’.

Chaplain Chaplain has been consistently sharing stories from both perspectives throughout his participation in this thread which is great because one can read varying opinions and make up their mind. Clearly you choose to focus on anything that goes against your narrative (which isn't surprising going through your posts in this thread) and assume that's all they post. Just embarrassing this is your take.


Anyway thanks to Chaplain Chaplain for posting these articles, it's been refreshing to see a variety of takes from different sources. I'll go back to lurking now.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Holy shit, what a blunder. Reuters just updated the story with this:




Still not great, considering the share of unvaccinated has been trending upwards vs. the share of unvaccinated hospitalizations dropping, but goddamn, how to not be careful with your words.
lmao I was showing that to everybody at the hospital today making everyone shit themselves (╥﹏╥)
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
lmao I was showing that to everybody at the hospital today making everyone shit themselves (╥﹏╥)

Give it a couple of weeks and the original article is likely to come true if the UK's COVID symptom study app is any indication (as it has been in the past).
 
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12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Really depressing story here of a mom that bought into all the conspiracy nonsense. Now her daughter is on deaths door because she refused to have her vaccinated.

damn man that is heart breaking. that girl ain't coming off the ventilator (ب_ب)
 
It's been a year but I still feel the hassle that this pandemic has brought us. Since vaccines are out now so hopefully, everything will really be better pretty soon.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
damn man that is heart breaking. that girl ain't coming off the ventilator (ب_ب)
Yeah it's fucked. I wish there was a way to bring legal action against the people in the media spreading that shit. It has cost so many lives.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah it's fucked. I wish there was a way to bring legal action against the people in the media spreading that shit. It has cost so many lives.

She is 13. A lot of countries are outright not even authorizing the vaccine for those under 18. Even the WHO went from clearly recommending against it to more recently taking a softer position about not having enough data to make a recommendation.
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
She is 13. A lot of countries are outright not even authorizing the vaccine for those under 18. Even the WHO went from clearly recommending against it to more recently taking a softer position about not having enough data to make a recommendation.
Was she in one of those countries?
 
damn man that is heart breaking. that girl ain't coming off the ventilator (ب_ب)
That’s presumptuous unless I’m missing something. I’ve personally extubated a lot of patients after many weeks on ventilators. We have had several patient who spent upwards of 50 days on ECMO and trached on vents who were eventually weaned off ECMO and off the ventilator. So while thing may seem grim, if she’s stable, my experience has been that eventually they can recover. Especially younger people.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Was she in one of those countries?

What are you not getting? There is no consensus about vaccinating children and it's increasingly looking like a bad idea on a population level. This reality does not change just because you live in a country that is recklessly recommending it for ages 12+ and soon to be even lower soon, most likely.
 
Soo I want to post this here because I appreciate everyone’s insight and honest discussion. I hope everyone gets the vaccine especially people with co-morbities and people who are older.

With that being said.... There is a lawsuit that was filed stating that there have been a major oversight on the deaths that have been reported. Per this lawsuit a witness, who is anonymous, says their data analysis shows that the data shows over 45000 deaths over 3 days. They scrape the data that comes from different databases outside the vaers database.

Here is the link: https://ia601405.us.archive.org/24/items/cdc-45-000-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-law-suit/CDC 45,000 Covid 19 Vaccine deaths Law Suit.pdf

This was filed today and could be 100% fabricated by bad actors. If true though this is something that deserves awareness and discussion.
Er the lawsuit basicialy argue vaccine is a scam.
 
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