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Stuart360
Member
It depends what the discussion is about -
If we are talking about how many subs Gamepass has, then everyone is on a $1 subscription for life.
If we are talking about a new big name game being 'free' on Gamepass, then everyone is paying $15 a month for Gamepass.
It's a fair point. The news has felt slow lately, thanks to covid, and that gives us all too much time on our hands.
But, honestly, this'd be a risky thing to make up. It's way safer to say some far off vaguely specific but specifically vague promise than something that could be proved wrong in five days.
I wouldn't bet my life on this being true, because its an uninteresting thing for such a sweeping gesture. But I'm not gonna be amazed if it turns out true.
It's hard to tell. I think mobile will get a small boost just by existing, at least as soon as Apple devices are officially widely supported. And then things will pick up based on select titles.
I don't see it being massive in the west, but there'll be enough support to make it worth it.
PC is an additional service right now. I can't see people giving up buying games, like some have on console. But AoE4 is out soon, and if Game Pass is on Steam at that point prepare for a massive influx of users.
Andodalf
Banned
Legit will hit 40 Mil if Starfield hits this holidayThis is before the real games even start coming.
greencoder
Member
Their fiscal year ends in June AFAIK. Or do you mean that shitty tax report thing in the US?
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ManaByte
Member
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
Why?
synchronicity
Member
I know it's a great value and nothing against those who enjoy the service, and I know it's been discussed at length, but I'm just not in favor of a "Netflix" model for gaming. I like to "own" and play my library at my leisure, and I also think that a subscription service will ultimately be a negative for the industry at large. It will gradually erode into a more "disposable/throwaway" mentality towards development and content imho. Passion and real creativity will ultimately die on the altar. (at least in terms of "mainstream" offerings)
Yup. People got their 1$ 3 months deal and for many people that deal already expired and somehow number of subs is still increasing.
It's like maybe that 1$ deal is a hook a many people will stay subscribed after that because it's a great service. Imagine that...
Fredrik
Member
This board holds a lot of users, it doesn’t mean there are no fans of the service just because we can’t have general GP talk openly anymore. 23 million subscribers for what is essentially a platform on it’s own makes it bigger than PS5 and XSX/S, combined!This forum puzzles me sometimes.
"Gamepass will be the death of gaming and is pushing a soulless subscription model that will degrade quality industry wide"
"Yes yes indeed. Agreed."
*also this sub*
*gamepass got more subs*
"YAAAAAAY WOOOOO GO MICROSOFT! YESSSS GAMEPASS!!"
Reality Czar
Banned
That's a whole lot of people paying to play Skyrim in 2021.
SLB1904
Banned
i think is reasonable to think these numbers are accurate. its pretty much expected. why people act surprised is beyond me.
i mean if you are xbox owner and not subscribe to gamepass? come on?
having all first party release there is reason enough.
but these things i like to hear from the source, not from people rushing to make news
Alright
Banned
For not having gamepass
HoofHearted
Member
Or it's all of those All-Access sales.. :O
June 17, 2017
Source: Xbox Gamepass - wikipedia
So over 100% increase in subs over the past year. Pretty rapid growth ... especially with the common response on these forums of "no new games yet.. "
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I wonder if we can reach 30 mil. by September though.
Yeah, the biggest wildcard is asian market. If Game Pass is able to settle down there - via mobile or TV for example - time exclusive deals will be very very expensive for Sony. In fact - how many western time exclusive games did Sony have in the recent years? I mean the really big ones? Not so money. They have bigger exclusivity only on Japanese side and that's it.
onnextflix5
Member
Not bad, but imagine if they had some great exclusives on there, hope they succeed, as sony are getting arrogant now.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
The thing the last quarterly call did not include one month - so they had 19 mil. in all actuality already. So it is slightly bigger than 1 mil. at most. In fact the quarterly call from the next week will include 22 mil. rather than 23, because it won't include April's numbers.
Andodalf
Banned
I feel like Halo hits hardest on console where subs are at a higher saturation already. Starfield will get PC players en masse.
Alright
Banned
What is divs?
A Div is an English word for silly person. I was going to use mong
It is going to kill gaming. Traditional gaming died a long time ago, we're just pissing on ashes at the moment, but this will kill casual gaming to pave the way for mobile gaming. Doesn't mean I'm not loving the free games though
I'm just doing this atm (the bomb is gamepass and the floor is the industry):
ManaByte
Member
Kuranghi
Member
I NEED to see Halo Infinite again, please god show it again soon. I must know what the state of this game is after last years reveal, its killing me.
Great gif reply haha, unfortunately most people won't get this but I got you, great scene. Impotent rage Homer is so great, really nails the satire.
Great gif reply haha, unfortunately most people won't get this but I got you, great scene. Impotent rage Homer is so great, really nails the satire.
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FrankWza
Member
Xbox Game Pass General Discussion
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ManaByte
Member
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Annual is mid year but Q3 comes out on the 27th.
arkhamguy123
Member
Hasn't it been around much longer and is like 1/50th the price?This board holds a lot of users, it doesn’t mean there are no fans of the service just because we can’t have general GP talk openly anymore. 23 million subscribers for what is essentially a platform on it’s own makes it bigger than PS5 and XSX/S, combined!
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Calling 30 million by the end of year. To the concerned unwashed masses, you too can join Game Pass for $1.
FrankWza
Member
Kenshin775
Member
There is going to be a HUGE bump when people can game together/kids go back to school in the fall. The best marketing/word of mouth comes from playing in the same living room as your friend or seeing a kid show up to school with a new handheld system(or in this case playing Xcloud/Gamepass on their phone). I dont think people realize how appealing the idea of "Netflix for Videogames" is going to be and how subs are going to take off when word really gets out.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I wonder what the breakdown is saleswise per area and where the growth is specifically. Is it due to perceived third world countries customers taking advantage, is the US locked down tight due to gamepass or both? With the hard limit on Xbox Ones of around 50m (I imagine the vast majority of XSerX early adopters already had an Xbox) is there still potential for more growth. The numbers are unbelievable looking back at the past 18 months. I'd like to see what profit they are making on each customer.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I wonder what the split is between console users and PC users.
The big opp growth is PC/mobile users using it.
The big opp growth is PC/mobile users using it.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Xbox Game Pass General Discussion
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MrSarcastic
Banned
And without a 90+ Metacritic AAA game. Now just wait until that happens. That's when Playstation should be in panic mode.
Hezekiah
Banned
Do you really think the majority of those subscribers are playing the full price?
GamePass subs are still being given away dirt cheap, hence Microsoft will continue to hide the financials for it, and Sony and Nintendo won't follow suit because they're making much more money from gaming than Microsoft is.
MadPanda
Banned
But the fallacy in their theory is that you actually can't get 3 years for 1 USD as you first need to buy 3 years of Gold which would cost you 360 USD in today's market, or 180 USD a year or two back. Even though they somehow always forget to mention that particular part.
ManaByte
Member
MadPanda
Banned
Please could you first define "dirt cheap" then point me to get it dirt cheap? Thanks.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I predict around 50 mil. by the end of 22. Keep in mind that all those values are purely PC/Xbox and maybe a little bit of XCloud. Only now we got betas for iPhone and browsers on PC. I expect faster growth.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
they were only at 12 million subs in september last year. xsx launch has doubled those numbers.
their revenues were already very high at around 11-12 billion a year. we will find out next year if their revenues go up by another billion.
BF6 will be a big test. if they are at 25-30 million, they can easily afford to pay EA $300 million to buy it. thats 5 million copies which is what they would sell on xbox if the game was a 20 million seller. not to mention, they wont have to pay the 30% cut on those sales.
Hezekiah
Banned
Three months of GamePass for $1.
Stockpiling Xbox Live Gold service (up to 36 months total), then converting it all to Game Pass Ultimate for just $1 extra through this deal - three years of Game Pass Ultimate for $181.
I thought this was well known? Part of the reason the service is popular with gamers is because it's a massive loss leader.
It is a legitimate question though. And if people are paying $10/mo or more realistically $15 unless you just dont play online, thats $120/$180 per year before actually buying any games, which I imagine most 3rd party games wont be day one. Ive even seen gamepass promos on Cheezits and Poptarts etc lol
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
Durr, it is not sustainable. I know this because Jim Ryan said so.
Also, you get what you pay for, so enjoy Elder Scrolls, MLB, Starfield, future Doom games, and uh, well, nvm.
Also, you get what you pay for, so enjoy Elder Scrolls, MLB, Starfield, future Doom games, and uh, well, nvm.
Sealord of Braavos
Member
A while back I floated the idea of 25 million GP subs by E3. Thought it was a long shot. Looks to be a sure bet now. This is pretty incredible. Kudos to Phil for getting Satya invested in the gaming space by showing him the potential of Game Pass.
What’s MS going to do next with that 12 billion they aren’t going to use on Discord. Hope some of it gets earmarked for the Xbox division.
{insert Heisenberg “there’s no stopping this train” gif here}
What’s MS going to do next with that 12 billion they aren’t going to use on Discord. Hope some of it gets earmarked for the Xbox division.
{insert Heisenberg “there’s no stopping this train” gif here}
Of course. It's easier to parrot stupid shit like that without knowing what are they talking about...
ManaByte
Member
$181 isn't "dirt cheap".
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