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Should Nintendo be more ruthless and charge more for their Nintendo Switch Online service?

Saber

Gold Member
I knew none of you would understand. I am not saying I personally, or anyone else here, want a higher price, jesus christ.

I am talking business wise, not what you want. What makes sense economically.

PS Plus could cost a lot less but still be profitable, but they sustain the highest price possible for profit, as does Xbox.

Nintendo does not do that. The question is, what price could they be looking at and still retain growth, its certainly more than the current price.

Lol, even with the explanation it sounds extremelly silly.

How can a company even think on charging more if they can't deliver a good service? Why would anyone as a consumer even asking to pay more?

Not even Nintendo would be that stupid to increase the price, using making better games as an excuse and ending up asking why they're losing online subscriptions.
 
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Cutty Flam

Banned
Playstation and Xbox have leveraged their services into monsters and are cashing in on billions. Sony's financial success this generation has been heavily dependent on their subscription services and Xbox has put all their chips on Game Pass.

OF COURSE it would suck, we all know that. The service doesn't contain the free games or the libraries of Playstation Now, Playstation Plus, or Game Pass.

BUT.

From a pure business perspective, do you think Nintendo could get away with charging more? from a hardcore gamer perspective, we would obviously be angry and lash out at the lack of free games and proper voice chat, but would there be any significant problems on a larger scale? if they charged double and retained 60% or 70% of the subscriptions, they cash in on multiple millions. Are they dumb for not being more ruthless right now when people can't get enough Nintendo?

Switch
Nintendo Switch Online: $3.99

Playstation
Playstation Plus: $9.99
Playstation Now: $9.99

Xbox
Game Pass Ultimate: $14.99

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Nintendo’s online service is pathetic. It’s honestly abysmal considering the competition and how they handle theirs. I can’t speak much about Sony because I never played their online, but even in 2004 when Xbox Live first began, it was worlds better than what Nintendo offers today. I’d estimate Nintendo Online isn’t 1/8th the service now, that Xbox Live was in 2004
 

TexMex

Member
If they increase just 2 bucks they could afford to lose some subs and still earn a lot more money. Majority does not care about the bonus additions, they would throw their money at it either way.

Look, when sony rakes in billions from plus and now, Nintendo are behind the 8 ball by not doing the same. Add something that doesnt sell a lot anymore like Arms in the service and hike the price up 2 bucks. Huge earnings increase.

But the loss of subs would offset that 2 bucks. Some will, but plenty/most consumers are not going to absorb a price hike when they get zero in return, for an offering that is already insanely bare bones and only acceptable because we're all only paying $20 a year.
 

jigglet

Banned
I would love to give them more money. I mean $100-$150 a year is nothing for my favourite hobby. I wouldn't even bat an eye.

But for their bullshit service? Even $20 is an insult for that trash.
 

zombrex

Member
From a business perspective of course they should because all us suckers here who complain would still pay to play Mario Kart of whatever else online.
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Let PlayStation and Xbox inflict punishment on each other is Nintendo’s strategy it’s bad but works console generations take three to tango...
 

Dream-Knife

Banned
Nintendo’s online service is pathetic. It’s honestly abysmal considering the competition and how they handle theirs. I can’t speak much about Sony because I never played their online, but even in 2004 when Xbox Live first began, it was worlds better than what Nintendo offers today. I’d estimate Nintendo Online isn’t 1/8th the service now, that Xbox Live was in 2004
Xbox live launched in Nov 2002.
 

Mithos

Member
Sure. They are ruthless on their hardware price, ~€375+ for a Switch still... (XSS ~€360, PS5DE ~€499, XSX ~€570, PS5 ~€599)
 

GymWolf

Member
No they need to make it free considering the shitty quality of their internet service.

Why even opening a topic like this if you are not a shereholder?! These people are already uber-greedy, don't give them other bad ideas.
 
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Yes, they could probably get away with charging double for online. But it would be an easier pill to swallow if they added more legacy and maybe indie games.
 
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reksveks

Member
If they did increase it to the price of others, just think it would create more scrutiny on the product offering really.
 
I they added Miiverse functionality back-in, constant MSRP discount on digital purchase of Nintendo titles (make them $50 at launch), and add to it some modern titles with online community like Mario Maker for free... Yes.

They should also leave the door open for other publishers that want to adhere for discounts (and getting a share of the cake Nintendo charges per sale or there would be no incentive), perhaps.

I wouldn't pay for it, but it would be more expensive yet feel less like highway robbery.
 
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Roitorb

Member
No. The service is paltry by comparison. The online features are bare bones even compared to two generations ago when live and ps+ started to take off.

Barely worth it to have now even if you are a die hard fan.

I do like the family plan idea though and wish others would adopt that model.

It does include free games though, if you count 30 year old SNES and NES games. Also the 99 games are kinda fun.

The family plan on Xbox would be much welcome as I’m paying £10.99 x 3 each month
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
I concur. Because let’s face it. Nothing is really offered and Nintendo aren’t at the forefront for online gaming. I say this as a Nintendo fan.
Nintendo online is bare bones and the price reflects that if they want to charge more they need to give more than just a few SNES and NES games with online play.
 

Bragr

Banned
Lol, even with the explanation it sounds extremelly silly.

How can a company even think on charging more if they can't deliver a good service? Why would anyone as a consumer even asking to pay more?

Not even Nintendo would be that stupid to increase the price, using making better games as an excuse and ending up asking why they're losing online subscriptions.
The Playstation Plus service likely costs way less than $9.99 to operate. The true value for online and some old free games is not $9.99 when you sell it to millions, but they marketed it like that from the start and people aren't even thinking about it. Sony already did this ages ago and you guys don't even know.

Nintendo doesn't have the same quality service but could likely charge more and still retain most subscribers. There seems to be a barrier of around $9 to $15 when it comes to entertainment subscriptions. Nintendo could get away with another $2 in my opinion.
 

Corgi1985

Banned
The problem is their online is actually worse now than what the wiiu and 3ds had. There is no way the leadership can be this incompetent, someone in charge must just hate the internet.
 

Bragr

Banned
But the loss of subs would offset that 2 bucks. Some will, but plenty/most consumers are not going to absorb a price hike when they get zero in return, for an offering that is already insanely bare bones and only acceptable because we're all only paying $20 a year.
I don't know, I think at worst there would be a slight blowback in the first month or two or something like that, but I really think 6 instead of 4 is doable, and half of these subscriptions are Animal Crossing and Mario Kart players that would barely pay attention to it.
 

Bragr

Banned
No.

Nintendo have been in business for over 160 years, i'm sure they know how to make money OP
You take your opportunities when you have them. Did you see how much Sony makes from subscriptions? a lot more than on console or game sales. It's the most important way to make money, and Nintendo needs to step it up. They are so hot right now and need to use that as much as possible.
 

Alright

Banned
You take your opportunities when you have them. Did you see how much Sony makes from subscriptions? a lot more than on console or game sales. It's the most important way to make money, and Nintendo needs to step it up. They are so hot right now and need to use that as much as possible.
Hopefully they introduce MTX and lootboxes, have you seen how much money they make? Plus they could port a load of Mobile games to switch, because the switch would be perfect for it.

Then i can post Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot...
 

BigBooper

Member
Uh, I won't pay for it now. They don't offer anything special, other than the old games. From my perspective, what they offer now is not worth it, so I have no idea what other customers would be willing to pay. Go for it I guess, might as well. Nintendo has that stockholm syndrome thing going on with it's customers so they might make bank.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Playstation and Xbox have leveraged their services into monsters and are cashing in on billions. Sony's financial success this generation has been heavily dependent on their subscription services and Xbox has put all their chips on Game Pass.

OF COURSE it would suck, we all know that. The service doesn't contain the free games or the libraries of Playstation Now, Playstation Plus, or Game Pass.

BUT.

From a pure business perspective, do you think Nintendo could get away with charging more? from a hardcore gamer perspective, we would obviously be angry and lash out at the lack of free games and proper voice chat, but would there be any significant problems on a larger scale? if they charged double and retained 60% or 70% of the subscriptions, they cash in on multiple millions. Are they dumb for not being more ruthless right now when people can't get enough Nintendo?

Switch
Nintendo Switch Online: $3.99

Playstation
Playstation Plus: $9.99
Playstation Now: $9.99

Xbox
Game Pass Ultimate: $14.99

NSO_EN_1080_040221_h264

AntiqueOrderlyGibbon-max-1mb.gif

Nintendo's Corporate Commander after reading this.
 

Bragr

Banned
Hopefully they introduce MTX and lootboxes, have you seen how much money they make? Plus they could port a load of Mobile games to switch, because the switch would be perfect for it.

Then i can post Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot...
Mobile ports and loot boxes would hurt them.

But do you really think going from 4 to 6 bucks a month would destroy their credibility?

The reason why I am trying to make this point is because the earning reports are dominated by subscriptions, and Nintendo is currently far behind in this regard. If they would lose fan appreciation and get a negative reputation, of course, they should never do it, but I think a lot of you underestimate the potential value a few extra bucks would do for Nintendo and I think you are overrating the penalty.

Nintendo was in terrible shape not long ago with the Wii-U, now that they managed to spawn a success, it's time to milk all the cows.
 
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Alright

Banned
Mobile ports and loot boxes would hurt them.

But do you really think going from 4 to 6 bucks a month would destroy their credibility?

The reason why I am trying to make this point is because the earning reports are dominated by subscriptions, and Nintendo is currently far behind in this regard. If they would lose fan appreciation and get a negative reputation, of course, they should never do it, but I think a lot of you underestimate the potential value a few extra bucks would do for Nintendo and I think you are overrating the penalty.

Nintendo was in terrible shape not long ago with the Wii-U, now that they managed to spawn a success, it's time to milk all the cows.
It was sarcasm.

Nintendo have operated successfully for 160 years. They're excellent at self-reflection and doing a 180, or a 160, or a 90, when the time suits.

No other company who had the success of the wii, followed by the complete failure of the wii u, would then try and do the Wii-U again. Nintendo did though, because they knew the Wii-U idea was good, but the technology wasn't there for the right price point.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
My friend has a Nintendo Switch. I often think about buying one so that I can play a few online games with him, and then I'd help justify the purchase by finally picking up the last few years worth of first-party titles. Then I remember if I want to play with my friend, I'll have to use their infamously crappy online service as well as add another monthly fee to my card, and the plan falls apart.
You'd have to pay me to wrestle with that crap, not charge me.
 
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fart town usa

Gold Member
Nintendo should offer something worthwhile before upping their price. I get that the Switch is successful but successful Nintendo is always the worst. Too busy printing money to release games. It's a damn shame that they quickly abandoned the WiiU but then thought it was cool to port all the major titles over and charge full price.

Nintendo and Sony seem to have fully inserted their head into their own ass. Microsoft seems to be the only console maker who has a clue these days.
 

BlackTron

Member
Absolutely not. It's not as robust as other platforms. Charging more for less would be stupid (and stupid me would still pay for it).

But Nintendo charges more for less in so many other areas, and get away with it with flying colors.

It's not a totally off-base question.
 

BlackTron

Member
My friend has a Nintendo Switch. I often think about buying one so that I can play a few online games with him, and then I'd help justify the purchase by finally picking up the last few years worth of first-party titles. Then I remember if I want to play with my friend, I'll have to use their infamously crappy online service as well as add another monthly fee to my card, and the plan falls apart.
You'd have to pay me to wrestle with that crap, not charge me.

Oh, come on. It's twenty bucks for the whole year. I can't get anyone who raises the price as an issue, that's $1.66 per month!

Now the terrible online service is a good point, free or not. Depends on the type of game, I never thought Smash worked as an online title but had a great time playing my friend in Wargroove. Which you could play on PC anyway, but the portable nature of Switch and being able to move it around the house with me while my friend was taking his turn was perfect.

Switch is a truly upgraded, freeing experience or a sub-par way to play the same games, depending on the situation.
 
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