same for me as well. That was a hard quiz.
In theory for Luffy's mom. I'm guessing she is a celestial dragon that died a little bit after luffy was born or she has been imprisoned all of this time.
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In theory for Luffy's mom. I'm guessing she is a celestial dragon that died a little bit after luffy was born or she has been imprisoned all of this time.
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One thing I don't understand is this:
Why do people think that Imu is Luffy's mom? Was that just one idiot from Reddit or is there actually something to go by with Imu being Luffy’s mom, potentially? I understand that it seems like it might be plausible, but it has been said that Imu-sama is a King...
That Straw Hat that Imu had is worrisome. Why is it there and what is the purpose of it being there? The meaning of the Straw Hat overall in One Piece is something to ponder as well
I have a hunch that Imu could be tied to Luffy in some complicated way, but who knows...My thinking is that Imu could have been a woman but asked Ivankov to turn her into a man at some point, and went against Dragon. It would make the war between them that much more interesting IMO, if they have some history
I wonder if Dadan knows anything about it?
That Straw Hat that Imu had is worrisome. Why is it there and what is the purpose of it being there? The meaning of the Straw Hat overall in One Piece is something to ponder as well
I have a hunch that Imu could be tied to Luffy in some complicated way, but who knows...My thinking is that Imu could have been a woman but asked Ivankov to turn her into a man at some point, and went against Dragon. It would make the war between them that much more interesting IMO, if they have some history
I wonder if Dadan knows anything about it?
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Nonstop action. The chapter was over before I knew it. One question though, who is the character at the bottom left in the picture Kaido is referencing his only competition? Is that Monkey D. Dragon? Or Monkey D. Garp? I'm guessing it's Garp but I haven't read enough of the manga to distinguish between the two
Also I have to post this here, it's too epic
Any guesses on how this battle will go? I wonder how Big Mom will fare in this battle...Big Mom is so immensely powerful yet she has been repeatedly outwitted since her first true appearance in WCI arc...I have a feeling Law is going to pull off something eventually that will put her in a vulnerable position to get attacked by the other supernovas
Also I have to post this here, it's too epic
Any guesses on how this battle will go? I wonder how Big Mom will fare in this battle...Big Mom is so immensely powerful yet she has been repeatedly outwitted since her first true appearance in WCI arc...I have a feeling Law is going to pull off something eventually that will put her in a vulnerable position to get attacked by the other supernovas
Completely forgot about this, but the Blackbeard Pirates (five of them at the time) destroyed Chopper's homeland of Drum Kingdom
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We started here at ch. 909? So in a couple months it will be about 100 chapters deep into the arc. I'm going to guess based on the current situation, that there is at least another 40-60 chapters left. And I would personally hope for another 100+ chapters but that's just me. Have been completely enthralled since the moment Luffy and the crew arrived at Wano Kuni. Last chapter went by in what seemed like a few minutes and I usually take 15-20 minutes to survey an entire chapter; all that's going on within each given one. But it was so exhilarating, that I can't even wait to see what happens next
I think everything that has lead up to this point, has been outstanding. What would you have liked to see done differently?
It's just we've been waiting for this fight against kaido for so long as the main bad guy to beat. It just seemed to drag for me. I think having smaller bosses to defeat before heading to Kaido or having Kaido as this overall eventual goal would have been better. But we have seen so much of Kaido that he loses his appeal since he is honestly just not that interesting. Big mom was fun to read and she has a slightly interesting back story. This guy is a dragon and hes' strong and that is it. What makes him special outside of him being strong. We've had tons of powerful foes in one piece but they haven't show why we should fear him or why we should love his character. He is just the guy at the top of the tower to beat and nothing else. Luffy's little bit of training is suppose to help him defeat a guy who pretty much obliterated him. Even if his enemy is wounded wev'e seen tons of enemies fight at nearly full strength while wounded. Kaido lost his mysticism and he doesn't seem that threatening to me especially after sent him flying with one punch. The background of the country was great and the prison was interesting as well but this almost feels like they just added a bunch of earlier one piece stories together with lets say Nami's village in exchange for the villagers that can't laugh, the prison arc, the family members similar to big mom, and the fight to get to and at the top is similar to the one where they fought the don flamingo.
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Spoilers / chapters 598-1,001
This fight we are now at, at the rooftop of Onigashima, everything started to unfold to where we are now right from the moment the Straw Hats set foot on Sabaody Archipelago and reunited as a pirate crew after two years. Caribou sneaking onto the Thousand Sunny and reaching the Fishman Island to now where he is in Wano Kuni and even faced the same fate as Luffy / Eustass as a prisoner in Udon. Luffy was ready to challenge Big Mom since the start. And he was fully confident when he did so at the end of Fishman Island. The very next arc his plans are linked to Law's and Luffy follows a masterfully designed blueprint courtesy of Tra-guy that sets everything into motion full-scale. Before Luffy even realized I think, he was already 100%, without doubt, attacking a second Emeror of the Sea in Kaido when he agreed to an alliance with Trafalgar Law. The first step was halting Kaido's operation. Law did this by eliminating the production of SAD, something only Caesar Clown knows how to manufacture / create. Law avoided all out war from the start by kidnapping Caesar, keeping him alive and using him as bait which would force Doflamingo's hand; he had no choice being the middle man / Kaido's underling. He had to make it right and get his operation back under his full control otherwise he'd probably be dealt with by one of the three all-stars of the Beast Pirates is my guess. Enemies that would likely crush him in the end, guaranteed if two of the three showed up to handle business
Caesar, Doflamingo, the confrontation with Jack at Zou (not even two of Whitebeard's crew / Oden's retainers could compete and that's with the advantage of 2v1 for days + nights of all out battle) are all the mini-bosses
Ashura Doji confronted Jack head on in Okobore Town, Kuri. We see that Ashura Doji is at the very least on equal footing with Jack The Drought. He slashes him despite letting his guard down for moments into that fight, even getting hit himself due to his own negligence. Ashura Doji called him a small fry too, and wished to die, but it wasn't going to be at the hands of a weakling like Jack in his mind, all this was stated right before he went right at Jack and struck him clear across most of Jack's massive torso
King and Queen are going to jump in at some point and claim their opponents in battle, I can't entirely recall but I think one of them had their eyes set on fighting Marco before he completely ignored them and rushed Roronoa Zoro to the rooftop of Onigashima where the main fight is now taking place
Tobiroppo AKA The Flying Six are all opponents foes who all savagely look forward to killing one of the all-stars of the Beast Pirates, looking to claim their rank and spot as a top headliner in Kaido's crew. The Straw Hats mostly are engaged with them currently in battles that will no doubt prove to be the craziest yet for each member of Luffy's crew. Sanji especially, seems to have been dealt a tremendous battle. He's been apprehended by Who's Who of the Tobiroppo via spider web to start this battle of his iirc. Jinbe has a tough foe to deal with as well. They all do, it's just that these fights are all forming at the exact same time. Kaido has never hidden himself. His story is that he is so powerful and indestructible that he welcomes death. Remember him trying to kill himself by jumping off the Sky Island that "Mad Monk" Urouge was on with his crew, the Fallen Monk Pirates? Kaido is not hiding, at best he finds an opponent who can contend with him well enough to break even most likely, we still do not know how powerful Shanks is when he fights Kaido
I think the way this arc has unfolded has been immaculate. There is so much to consider and think about. I can go on and on, I just love this arc and think it has unfolded exceptionally well. The raid at Onigashima is probably going to last another 60 chapters with the fights and certain flashbacks and backstory. Think of all the fights. Ace. The severe struggling and famine of the people in Wano Kuni. It's a wonder they even have the spirit to go on given their living conditions...Kaido has crushed everyone's quality of life. A riceball in red bean soup on O-Tama's birthday spent with big brother Luffy was the best day of her life. All she had was a small appetizer given to her on her birthday and it was the best moment in her young life...Kaido has enslaved nations and under his reign as Yonko. Big Mom as well. And now there's an opportunity to kill them. I'm getting hyped just thinking about it and I'm only touching on the surface of all this
Caesar, Doflamingo, the confrontation with Jack at Zou (not even two of Whitebeard's crew / Oden's retainers could compete and that's with the advantage of 2v1 for days + nights of all out battle) are all the mini-bosses
Ashura Doji confronted Jack head on in Okobore Town, Kuri. We see that Ashura Doji is at the very least on equal footing with Jack The Drought. He slashes him despite letting his guard down for moments into that fight, even getting hit himself due to his own negligence. Ashura Doji called him a small fry too, and wished to die, but it wasn't going to be at the hands of a weakling like Jack in his mind, all this was stated right before he went right at Jack and struck him clear across most of Jack's massive torso
King and Queen are going to jump in at some point and claim their opponents in battle, I can't entirely recall but I think one of them had their eyes set on fighting Marco before he completely ignored them and rushed Roronoa Zoro to the rooftop of Onigashima where the main fight is now taking place
Tobiroppo AKA The Flying Six are all opponents foes who all savagely look forward to killing one of the all-stars of the Beast Pirates, looking to claim their rank and spot as a top headliner in Kaido's crew. The Straw Hats mostly are engaged with them currently in battles that will no doubt prove to be the craziest yet for each member of Luffy's crew. Sanji especially, seems to have been dealt a tremendous battle. He's been apprehended by Who's Who of the Tobiroppo via spider web to start this battle of his iirc. Jinbe has a tough foe to deal with as well. They all do, it's just that these fights are all forming at the exact same time. Kaido has never hidden himself. His story is that he is so powerful and indestructible that he welcomes death. Remember him trying to kill himself by jumping off the Sky Island that "Mad Monk" Urouge was on with his crew, the Fallen Monk Pirates? Kaido is not hiding, at best he finds an opponent who can contend with him well enough to break even most likely, we still do not know how powerful Shanks is when he fights Kaido
I think the way this arc has unfolded has been immaculate. There is so much to consider and think about. I can go on and on, I just love this arc and think it has unfolded exceptionally well. The raid at Onigashima is probably going to last another 60 chapters with the fights and certain flashbacks and backstory. Think of all the fights. Ace. The severe struggling and famine of the people in Wano Kuni. It's a wonder they even have the spirit to go on given their living conditions...Kaido has crushed everyone's quality of life. A riceball in red bean soup on O-Tama's birthday spent with big brother Luffy was the best day of her life. All she had was a small appetizer given to her on her birthday and it was the best moment in her young life...Kaido has enslaved nations and under his reign as Yonko. Big Mom as well. And now there's an opportunity to kill them. I'm getting hyped just thinking about it and I'm only touching on the surface of all this
Your knowledge is too great. Need to do more research before I can properly reply. Plus I suck at names so if you ain't super memorable to me I'm forgetting it after hearing or reading it.
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There are many posters here that know a lot more than me, a lot LOT more, I can tell. I'm probably just the most vocal one lol. There are at least a dozen here that have very impressive knowledge of One Piece and have taught me a lot. I would say just post whatever you'd like too. I only post so much information every time because this is the only anime I focus on, besides JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Hunter x Hunter pretty much. Attack on Titan I am considering catching up on. That, and I am actively trying to figure out what the One Piece is...But the community for One Piece is amazing and has been amazing, all the fans are great
Something fascinating about Wano Kuni arc to me is the
sheer amount of Japanese culture woven into its story. So many names and things I've never heard about or even thought about. So many noble and strong characters. And the number of godly samurai fighting right now is staggering. Just a quick guess but there seems to be like 30-40 notable swordsman fighting in this raid/war right now. And then you have Big Mom, Zoro, Killer, Law, and at some point, Basil Hawkins will choose his side and enter the fight once more I believe...Those characters are something else. X-Drake as well. Something else that interests me is where Brook would rank among all these samurai when it's all finished? I hope we see a crazy battle and fair amount from Brook. He had the balls to take on Big Mom face to face, he was even the one to traumatize her the most. I wonder what else he has in store for his enemies. Ever since he chose to sacrifice his body and act as a bullet in the fight of the Straw Hat Pirates versus Oars in Thriller Bark, and went straight through Oars' deltoid and out like a bullet or spear off some sort, I was just like damn this guy is fucking crazy! Brook is tough
^^^Kin'emon is an intelligent leader. A war has never been their intention. The 9 Red Scabbards sought to swiftly cut past their enemy and reclaim what is theirs, freeing the people of Wano who are suffering greatly and perishing under Kaido's tyranny. I think they intended to strike swiftly and overcome, but as they have found out, Kaido is on a completely different level. I still can hardly believe Inuarashi and Nekomamushi in Sulong form weren't enough to do basically anything. Not to mention that there were seven others behind them fighting as well. This current fight between the two Yonko and the five Supernovas from the Worst Generation...this is the greatest clash to date that we will see. There has been nothing like this in One Piece. All the characters fighting in Wano are so unbelievably strong at this point. I honestly think that these are some otherworldly battles
I used to wonder if the Navy would appear at Wano with Admirals at some point - I don't think the Navy wants any part of this. I doubt they would even make a move in the aftermath of it all when the raid is finished
Wano hype reaching maximal levels
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Luffy protects Dr. Hiriluk's flag. The jolly roger represents that no disease is incurable. Doctor Hiriluk's belief that there is no disease in the world that cannot be cured
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unsure what could be considered spoiler and whatnot, so i'll just put everything under covers, consider that i read until the very last chapter that came out today.
wouldn't say kaido is not threatening anymroe, he just lost his "logia factor".
before haki was a thing, or even before the "opposing element" strategy was in place, logias used to go around in god mode all the time and seemed untouchable.
then at one point in the story they have to be beatable, and this took most of the wind off the sails of most logias, although not all of them, so much so that one , karibou, has been used as a joke since it's introduction.
same thing is happening now to kaido and big mom, they were "iron baloons", well big mom was, that were impervious to damage in the first place, but now they can be damaged and they are just really absurdly powerful opponents, but wouldn't say they are not threatening anymore just because you can now punch them.
in terms of his character though, i agree, kaido hasn't been defined as a character at all thus far, and it usually moves directed by two opposing ideas, one his willingness to die and/or find some opponents that can do so, and the other his quest for the onepiece and generally power.
he both wants to lose and doesn't want to lose, he is both merciless enough to want to slaughter an entire country and put explosives on his daughter/son arms, and merciful enough to spare momonosuke twice (first time you can see him just wanting to see if he can get another oden out of him, but second time it was clear that momo was just a child for now, and yet he still gave him a way out).
Even his tactics against oden made little sense..he wants a great opponent and wants to die (maybe he didn't want it at the time now that i think about it though), but then he used the lowest possible trick to avoid a direct confrontation and win...maybe that's why he seems to have a boner for oden now? he regrets that he lost his chance at a great fight and possibly die and took the easy way out? it is possible, but still as a character kaido is atm all over the place.
maybe we will get a flashback like we did with big mom that wil give us some insight on how he "works"..but as of now kaido is just a "dragon" (pun intended) to slay and not much more.
before haki was a thing, or even before the "opposing element" strategy was in place, logias used to go around in god mode all the time and seemed untouchable.
then at one point in the story they have to be beatable, and this took most of the wind off the sails of most logias, although not all of them, so much so that one , karibou, has been used as a joke since it's introduction.
same thing is happening now to kaido and big mom, they were "iron baloons", well big mom was, that were impervious to damage in the first place, but now they can be damaged and they are just really absurdly powerful opponents, but wouldn't say they are not threatening anymore just because you can now punch them.
in terms of his character though, i agree, kaido hasn't been defined as a character at all thus far, and it usually moves directed by two opposing ideas, one his willingness to die and/or find some opponents that can do so, and the other his quest for the onepiece and generally power.
he both wants to lose and doesn't want to lose, he is both merciless enough to want to slaughter an entire country and put explosives on his daughter/son arms, and merciful enough to spare momonosuke twice (first time you can see him just wanting to see if he can get another oden out of him, but second time it was clear that momo was just a child for now, and yet he still gave him a way out).
Even his tactics against oden made little sense..he wants a great opponent and wants to die (maybe he didn't want it at the time now that i think about it though), but then he used the lowest possible trick to avoid a direct confrontation and win...maybe that's why he seems to have a boner for oden now? he regrets that he lost his chance at a great fight and possibly die and took the easy way out? it is possible, but still as a character kaido is atm all over the place.
maybe we will get a flashback like we did with big mom that wil give us some insight on how he "works"..but as of now kaido is just a "dragon" (pun intended) to slay and not much more.
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Kaido is all over the place because of his drinking. He's constantly out of his mind drunk. I think he aims to gain the One Piece when he is sober, and wants to die when he is in his drunken stage or not sober. He clearly has it in his mind to gain power and exercise it over all others, but it comes so easy to him. Not even Shanks seems to leave much of an impression on him. Kaido has recognized him as an equal perhaps at Shank's best from what we know now, but there's one character who Kaido would see if he truly wants to die. Well actually, that character, as well as maybe three from the Worst generation who are standing before him right now. But in the past, he could have picked his foe and got his wish, if dying was more of a priority than living
Rudimentary representation of the the brain...
This is confirmed. Have you been figuring out Oda's engima? Don't focus on the story only.
"awakening"
Let me give you a clue that connects intro of current arc, vs the recommended episode "146".
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Ha ha, I hope we make it in one piece.
You talked about inherited WILL?
Also present in Attack on Titan.
Funny how the GIANTS like to LAUGH on the island of
One youtuber seems to have bitten some of my clues. Still FAR OFF, but closer than you, claims to have a big theory video coming up. Lets see if he gets any closer. Are you even trying?
WAKE UP.
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What's the best One Piece video game?
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You talked about inherited WILL?
Also present in Attack on Titan.
Funny how the GIANTS like to LAUGH on the island ofFABLEELBAF.
One youtuber seems to have bitten some of my clues. Still FAR OFF, but closer than you, claims to have a big theory video coming up. Lets see if he gets any closer. Are you even trying?
WAKE UP.
Interesting observations, those are great details and I think I now finally understand what you're hinting at whereas before it was right in front of my face, pointed out by you, but I just didn't think anything of it....
But if that is the case, surely it's metaphorical, if we're talking end theory? What you're referring to? In any case, I imagine the final episodes to come will be ambiguous. You can be 100% correct, but I don't think Oda will convey it as such. The outcome will have fans thinking long after, and a concrete answer will probably only lie within the minds of the most hardcore of fans such as yourself (maybe and hopefully myself as well lol)
I've never played any of them. One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 Deluxe Edition and One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 interest me though. Both games have an excellent roster of characters. I would probably love playing them both; it would allow me to delve further into the lore of One Piece I'm sure, and provide plenty of new ideas about characters even if the stories of these games are not canon. They're probably a lot of fun and fans would likely enjoy the latest two mentioned. I heard that One Piece: World Seeker is kind of lame, but that was just from one random reviewer I watched one day
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how have you been enjoying the series? Watch any episodes lately? Or have you been reading the manga?
Interesting observations, those are great details and I think I now finally understand what you're hinting at whereas before it was right in front of my face, pointed out by you, but I just didn't think anything of it....
But if that is the case, surely it's metaphorical, if we're talking end theory? What you're referring to? In any case, I imagine the final episodes to come will be ambiguous. You can be 100% correct, but I don't think Oda will convey it as such. The outcome will have fans thinking long after, and a concrete answer will probably only lie within the minds of the most hardcore of fans such as yourself (maybe and hopefully myself as well lol)
I've never played any of them. One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 Deluxe Edition and One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 interest me though. Both games have an excellent roster of characters. I would probably love playing them both; it would allow me to delve further into the lore of One Piece I'm sure, and provide plenty of new ideas about characters even if the stories of these games are not canon. They're probably a lot of fun and fans would likely enjoy the latest two mentioned. I heard that One Piece: World Seeker is kind of lame, but that was just from one random reviewer I watched one day
The story you are reading is to be enjoyed in the manner in which you are doing;
Whilst simultaneously attempting to guide your development.
Similarly, if you zoom into the smallest scale of particulates of a human being, looks exactly the same as the furthest reaches of the universe.
(IBM powers of 10 - good watch its on youtube).
I'm not here to discuss the story in great detail.
You become so focused on certain aspects, that you miss the things staring directly at you.
Do you remember Zoro's fight in Alabasta? How he tuned himself to KNOW how to dodge without thinking about it.
Focus is important. However, so is balance, sometimes it helps to take an "Aerial" view.
I'm not a hardcore fan, I could do this all day with any media. Once you know, you know.
Most people who know, do not like you, and dont want you to know. They typically go off and create secret societies to rule and make fun of the "plebs".
I do not dislike anyone, I choose to come on message boards in hope your soul will hear my call.
I won't be around for long.
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Charlotte Kato
Charlotte Kato is the 28th son and 49th child of the Charlotte Family and the middle triplet brother of Kanten and Montb. He also is an officer of the Big Mom Pirates and serves as Totto Land's Minister of Seeds (シード大臣, Shīdo Daijin?), governing over Tanega Island. Kato is a very tall and slim...
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Who the hell did Big Mom get with to create this, lol. This guy is in Wano Country in the anime
Great fight. Usopp and Chopper had a pretty good one in Alabasta as well. I like how Chopper took initiative and lead a great deal during it too. All while being the rookie of the crew, his first adventure, and in the worst possible climate he could be. Big fan of Tony Tony Chopper
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It's pretty good. I'm just watching it now and then to try to delay my Japanese from going to crap. I think I'm on the twelfth or thirteenth episode now, and I plan to keep watching
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Chapter 1,003 receives a 10/10 from me, I like what took place in chapter 1,004
Tides are turning slightly with the help of O-Tama, she helped Franky land a major blow on Sasaki of the Tobiroppo with his Victory V Flash attack. That's interesting, Franky is a swordsman as well. I liked this chapter a lot, O-Tama herself is a warrior. This war keeping growing more and more but at least now with O-Tama, Speed, and the others she can gain as allies with the help of Usopp's marksmanship shooting Kibi Dongo at foes, there is a better chance of surviving. Extremely useful devil fruit ability, O-Tama is yet another general that arrives on the scene at Onigashima
Who is this...
Person is helping the 9 Red Scabbards, crying too?
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Sounds like a fun idea, I should watch choose a new anime and try to continue on with Spanish. I'll be interested to hear if there comes a point in an episode where you're thinking, "damn I gotta hear what they're saying here" and then change it to your primary language haha. Are you nearly fluent in Japanese?
Tides are turning slightly with the help of O-Tama, she helped Franky land a major blow on Sasaki of the Tobiroppo with his Victory V Flash attack. That's interesting, Franky is a swordsman as well. I liked this chapter a lot, O-Tama herself is a warrior. This war keeping growing more and more but at least now with O-Tama, Speed, and the others she can gain as allies with the help of Usopp's marksmanship shooting Kibi Dongo at foes, there is a better chance of surviving. Extremely useful devil fruit ability, O-Tama is yet another general that arrives on the scene at Onigashima
Who is this...
Person is helping the 9 Red Scabbards, crying too?
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Sounds like a fun idea, I should watch choose a new anime and try to continue on with Spanish. I'll be interested to hear if there comes a point in an episode where you're thinking, "damn I gotta hear what they're saying here" and then change it to your primary language haha. Are you nearly fluent in Japanese?
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Chapter 1,003 receives a 10/10 from me, I like what took place in chapter 1,004
Tides are turning slightly with the help of O-Tama, she helped Franky land a major blow on Sasaki of the Tobiroppo with his Victory V Flash attack. That's interesting, Franky is a swordsman as well. I liked this chapter a lot, O-Tama herself is a warrior. This war keeping growing more and more but at least now with O-Tama, Speed, and the others she can gain as allies with the help of Usopp's marksmanship shooting Kibi Dongo at foes, there is a better chance of surviving. Extremely useful devil fruit ability, O-Tama is yet another general that arrives on the scene at Onigashima
Who is this...
Person is helping the 9 Red Scabbards, crying too?
I can read books fairly well but listening and speaking has always been tough. I suggest having subtitles in your native language and the dub in the language you are learning. This way the learning process kind of happens in the background while you enjoy the show, but if you want to prioritize the language learning you can just focus on what they're saying and only read the subs if you need to.
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Back to One Piece after a break catching up to some videogames since the release of PS5 and Series X. Thriller Bark was so good of the little seen, expecting it to hold up and become a favorite because of its horror themes.
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Excellent arc, I love that one. There’re a handful of impressive battles in Thriller Bark too. The fights always vary from arc to arc in a lot of ways but I thought Thriller Bark brought an exceptional bunch of fights for how brief the arc seemed to be. The Straw Hats were really tested in this arc...Now that I think of it, iirc there was never a time in which any one of them truly had a lasting moment to relax in Thriller Bark...But yeah what is displayed in about five or six of the fights, I am very content with. Very memorable fights and arc overall for me, especially being a horror fan
There’s also a decent bit of lore in Thriller Bark that will present itself in later chapters of One Piece, so there’s that to look forward to as well
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When it comes to Kaido’s character, this is what I think
We don’t know a ton about Kaido, but we can say for certain he’s all about power. He is the strongest creature in the world, this we know. He seems to have bi-polar tendencies, likely caused by his drinking habits. He just does whatever he feels in this world because he is so unstoppable. Shanks has shown weakness. Blackbeard has shown weakness pre-time skip. Big Mom is vulnerable as we have witnessed this to be true in Whole Cake Island when Brook shatters her glass portrait/frame containing a treasured picture of Mother Caramel. She is both capable of being stopped physically (Nami, using Zeus to stop her from pursuing the crew) and Big Mom has weakness mentally. If Luffy knew what he knows now, he could have killed Big Mom in the moments she had a nervous breakdown at the Tea Party From Hell; had momentarily lost her mind. Luffy is the 5th emperor and we all know he has the most weaknesses but still finds ways to prevail past his foes. But Kaido, he has welcomed death. He jumped off a Sky Island in the clouds and hit the ground (willingly) face-first. That did nothing. Shanks didn’t seem to hurt him. Whitebeard chose to avoid conflict with Kaido in Wano even though his own son in Izo carried the burden of Wano on his shoulders and must have wanted Kaido dead then because now he is fighting to the death versus him. So Whitebeard of all characters acknowledges and must know the extent of Kaido’s invulnerability. Kaido is pure power. Invincibility personified, but not pure invincibility as we will probably find out later, as I believe somehow he will be defeated. And if I am to guess, actually killed, as shocking as that result will be. Who will manage to kill him? I think only Luffy and potentially Zoro have what it takes. And I predict Luffy will be the one to kill him, and that it will take Gear 5th, something Kaido will force Luffy to utilize and show to the world, because Kaido is THAT unbelievably strong
But getting back to Kaido’s character, he’s basically the pinnacle of power behind all illegal operation. There’s the World Government in One Piece, that seemingly is unbeatable. It is not unfathomable, but it next to it, to imagine the events that would need to take place to overthrow the World Government in One Piece. You would need to defeat the entire Navy somehow, which seems impossible. The World Government, and all evil ways emenating from the World Government as it operates, plagues the lands and the seas of the world in One Piece. All inhabitants are affected by the World Government. All walks of life are affected. Kaido and Big Mom are essentially an extension of the abominable nature of the World Government. I see them as nearly the same as the World Government in One Piece. Different entities of the same inhumane oppression. To me, Kaido (and Big Mom) are an expression of the worst that this world has to offer or force upon, really, the people trying to live their lives in One Piece. Some will say that Kaido doesn’t have much character, but I think his character is essentially his power / his vice grip on the world - all the wicked operations that trickled down from Kaido himself, to Doflamingo, to Caesar, and wherever else his demands and operations could potentially branch off to. In short, Kaido is basically a threat to life itself. Look at the people in Wano where he resides...They’re all hanging by a string. O-Tama entered a war at Onigashima, because she is sick and tired of being hungry........An 8 year old girl bravely enters the raid at Onigashima because she believes she has the right to eat rice. That’s how oppressed the people of Wano are under Kaido’s reign. Note also that Jack the Drought, Kaido’s 3rd strongest underling, casually used chemical warfare and almost killed an entire civilization (Minks) with a rich history that has endured for an entire millennium. That’s Kaido’s third strongest ally. We have seen what Kaido is about because we have seen what his crew is capable of and will do. Kaido has done far worse than any character we have intel on in One Piece imo. Only person I can think of that has probably carried out worse, would be Imu
That’s only the surface. I couldn’t possibly explain the full extent of the damage that this character has caused. But make no mistake, Kaido has most likely caused the single most damage in One Piece to date; damage and suffering in which we can trace back to with certainty. Only the World Government has caused more suffering in the world as a result of its actions, than Kaido
But getting back to Kaido’s character, he’s basically the pinnacle of power behind all illegal operation. There’s the World Government in One Piece, that seemingly is unbeatable. It is not unfathomable, but it next to it, to imagine the events that would need to take place to overthrow the World Government in One Piece. You would need to defeat the entire Navy somehow, which seems impossible. The World Government, and all evil ways emenating from the World Government as it operates, plagues the lands and the seas of the world in One Piece. All inhabitants are affected by the World Government. All walks of life are affected. Kaido and Big Mom are essentially an extension of the abominable nature of the World Government. I see them as nearly the same as the World Government in One Piece. Different entities of the same inhumane oppression. To me, Kaido (and Big Mom) are an expression of the worst that this world has to offer or force upon, really, the people trying to live their lives in One Piece. Some will say that Kaido doesn’t have much character, but I think his character is essentially his power / his vice grip on the world - all the wicked operations that trickled down from Kaido himself, to Doflamingo, to Caesar, and wherever else his demands and operations could potentially branch off to. In short, Kaido is basically a threat to life itself. Look at the people in Wano where he resides...They’re all hanging by a string. O-Tama entered a war at Onigashima, because she is sick and tired of being hungry........An 8 year old girl bravely enters the raid at Onigashima because she believes she has the right to eat rice. That’s how oppressed the people of Wano are under Kaido’s reign. Note also that Jack the Drought, Kaido’s 3rd strongest underling, casually used chemical warfare and almost killed an entire civilization (Minks) with a rich history that has endured for an entire millennium. That’s Kaido’s third strongest ally. We have seen what Kaido is about because we have seen what his crew is capable of and will do. Kaido has done far worse than any character we have intel on in One Piece imo. Only person I can think of that has probably carried out worse, would be Imu
That’s only the surface. I couldn’t possibly explain the full extent of the damage that this character has caused. But make no mistake, Kaido has most likely caused the single most damage in One Piece to date; damage and suffering in which we can trace back to with certainty. Only the World Government has caused more suffering in the world as a result of its actions, than Kaido
RoadHazard
Gold Member
What is there one piece of, and where are the other pieces?
Cutty Flam
Banned
Nobody besides the creator, Eiichiro Oda, can say or knows the answer. There hasn’t been a single fan that has convinced me of what it is, yet. There have been some fascinating guesses from many fans on YouTube, and some here ITT have interesting ideas as well. But when it comes to guessing what the One Piece is, even after all this time? I think even the most devoted fans in the world are probably only halfway certain with any theory they may stand by. Even those who have read every chapter, watched every episode and have paid close attention for years seem to be completely in the dark despite their efforts. The actual One Piece might be one thing. It might be many things. It could tangible or intangible. Or it might not even really exist, but maybe even that is lie? I think a lot of fans that reach the 500 mark (500 episodes) have a decent chance at chiming in and possibly figuring something out for the rest of the One Piece community. We're still at large trying to come into answers. You should see some of the comments in certain YouTube videos, forums I'm sure, there are a ton of ideas out there but nothing has struck gold imo
For fun, I’ve tried to ascertain as to what it might be. It honestly seems to be a futile effort most times lol. Oda is too good in his storytelling. One Piece is as enigmatic as it's ever been, even with recent clues that have appeared in the manga. Oda manages to keep this treasure ever elusive. And I would applaud any fan who tries to come up with some kind of theory that they feel that can stand as a potential conclusion as to what the One Piece is; it’s not an easy thing to do at all. Any fan who gives it a shot will realize quickly and know how difficult it is to do when they give it a try. Fans can come up with theories and construct them as comprehensively as they wish, but thereafter is when even more questions and doubts and the second-guessing comes to mind
The other pieces you are asking about are located in Pre-devil fruit Alvida's bra
Fushitsusha
Banned
"Summit War" (385-516) soon. Thriller Bark started strong, drags in the middle with a lot of repetition, and ended strong. Because of the ending I'm much more eager to see what's coming up next.
Still a lot to go.
Still a lot to go.
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Cutty Flam
Banned
Roronoa Zoro was unbelievable in Thriller Bark. The fact that he managed to survive past everything that took place there, is incredible. Arguably, he lead the Mugiwara Pirates as much as Luffy did in the arc. It could even be argued that Zoro migt have done more than Luffy...
The middle did drag on a fair bit with the Sanji becoming a penguin, Lola the Hippo and Nami's friendship, Absalom and all that. But it was all worth it for the last 25% of the arc which was pretty intense. Nobody saw that coming
The middle did drag on a fair bit with the Sanji becoming a penguin, Lola the Hippo and Nami's friendship, Absalom and all that. But it was all worth it for the last 25% of the arc which was pretty intense. Nobody saw that coming
And where you are currently, is right when the story will begin to expand greatly. There is a lot to be said about the following arcs
Fushitsusha
Banned
#377 Peak Zoro thus far. Absolute badass.
futurama78
Banned
Is Vergo coming back?
Fushitsusha
Banned
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Cutty Flam
Banned
He might be dead iirc, Monet set off a self-destruct detonator within Caesar’s territory. I had it in my mind that they both were killed in the explosion at Punk Hazard? That thing practically blew up the entire island I think? I can’t remember how much destruction there was, I’ll have to check it out again some time
I hope he survived though. That fucking chop on his face had me laughing inside lol[/spoiler
I hope he survived though. That fucking chop on his face had me laughing inside lol[/spoiler
Cutty Flam
Banned
Fushitsusha
that quiz is tough as hell. One question was especially difficult; had us tracing back all the way from Loguetown to current arc
Cutty Flam
Banned
I think the One Piece is more than can be actually guessed. But I do think there is a high possibility that there is a tangible item involved the same, in that one place...
Jon Neu
I remember reading your theory long ago, if it has changed any, I’m going to kindly ask to hear the revised version if you don’t mind. Your take is interesting, but I don’t think it’s close to being accurate How do you explain this? *Extreme spoilers*
Gol told Whitebeard about the One Piece. Whitebeard’s last words were loud and clear for the world to hear and witness. One Piece does exist. It may be more things than one, an assumption that I personally align with. But I don’t think Whitebeard would lead his family astray with his words. There is something more to this mystery than just bonds. I think that it’s something potentially useful that only the Worst Generation was ever meant or destined to take advantage of, if you can see where I am going with this. That is the tangible, I think the One Piece is actually multifaceted but the tangible item? object? is what I am racking my brain over trying to figure out first. It’s still a complete mystery enshrouded in darkness despite many clues
I think Oda has something grand in mind, and there’s no guaranteed way to determine fully what it is, but the tangible aspect seems to be the best starting point
Any thoughts on this or your views are appreciated
I think Oda has something grand in mind, and there’s no guaranteed way to determine fully what it is, but the tangible aspect seems to be the best starting point
Any thoughts on this or your views are appreciated
^^Careful with quoting those spoilers, important information withheld pertaining to the central plot
Fushitsusha
Banned
Pirate Empress Boa Hancock, the most beautiful woman in the world is Monkey D Luffy's mother. That's why she seemingly is avoiding the public execution of Ace.
That's my random stupid guess and thought while watching.
That's my random stupid guess and thought while watching.
SebastianShaw
Member
Who was the true ruler of the council?
Where is Vegapunk
How the fuck is Lucy suppose to beat an emperor without a mcguffin
Where is Vegapunk
How the fuck is Lucy suppose to beat an emperor without a mcguffin
Cutty Flam
Banned
Boa is a great character / and pirate
What are your initial impressions of her as a Shichibukai?
Those are really good questions to ask, I’m very interested in them myself and have a lot to say. I’ll be coming back to those later in this post via an edit. I do wonder what other fans think about those two questions you’ve asked, kind of a lot. As well as if there are any convincing theories out there? (I haven’t checked many out yet) This is a very radical guess of mine, but it is that Vegapunk himself is now a weapon being held hostage by World Government but I’ll explain more at another time
Monkey D. Luffy is fully capable
at this moment, if only barely. All his major foes are twice his age or older, and even This current arc in its totality is a statement arc to me, so let’s see how it will go. But 100% Luffy is capable of winning versus the current Yonko in the current arc. There are others I am not sure about at all, Shanks and Blackbeard are likely far more (and I mean by a long shot) complex Emperors of the Sea than Big Mom and Kaido. Luffy is in a category of his own as Yonko, despite what Blackbeard may think
Jon Neu
Banned
I think the One Piece is more than can be actually guessed. But I do think there is a high possibility that there is a tangible item involved the same, in that one place...
How do you explain this? *Extreme spoilers*
Gol told Whitebeard about the One Piece. Whitebeard’s last words were loud and clear for the world to hear and witness. One Piece does exist. It may be more things than one, an assumption that I personally align with. But I don’t think Whitebeard would lead his family astray with his words. There is something more to this mystery than just bonds. I think that it’s something potentially useful that only the Worst Generation was ever meant or destined to take advantage of, if you can see where I am going with this. That is the tangible, I think the One Piece is actually multifaceted but the tangible item? object? is what I am racking my brain over trying to figure out first. It’s still a complete mystery enshrouded in darkness despite many clues
I think Oda has something grand in mind, and there’s no guaranteed way to determine fully what it is, but the tangible aspect seems to be the best starting point
Any thoughts on this or your views are appreciated
^^Careful with quoting those spoilers, important information withheld pertaining to the central plot
The song about the Binks Sake being sung by the Roger pirates just before they arrive to Raftel makes it pretty obvious for me.
Roger and his crew see the One Piece and they laugh their asses off and Roger mentions Joyboy. I'm sure there is a message from Joyboy about the Binks Sake and I'm sure the Binks Sake is the One Piece. The song itself is the quintessential pirate anthem but also it's, ironically, a testimony of the events of the past that everybody has forgotten. It's the celebration of what being a pirate means, a celebration of freedom, a call for adventures and dreams against the authoritarian forces of the world of One Piece. And it's also a goofy promise that Joyboy made to Binks, I bet it's probably a recipe for the Binks Sake or the actual lyrics of the song.
And maybe it's a bit of strech, but yohoho sounds kind of similar to Joyboy. Remember the Raftel = Laugh Tale?
Roger and Whitebeard shout out to the world that the One Piece exists, and what they achieved with that? They created a new pirate era, they gave people hopes and dreams and a reason to think for themselves and rebel. The One Piece in itself isn't important, believing in it is.
All of that, is the One Piece, I think.
SebastianShaw
Member
How? He barley won against Big Mom lieutant. He didnt get any power-ups and Big Mom is like 3x the lieutant power
Mikey Jr.
Member
I watched one piece since zoro joined. Mainly an anime watcher.
But I recently stopped when they got to the elephant. Just something wasn't clicking with me anymore.
It just felt........the same again. There is a grander story I am interested in, but that shit is just spinning its wheels. You'll get snippets of it between arcs, and then thats it. Back to the usual. And with this elephant arc, I can already see the major plot points. Of course this new land is being terrorized by some miniboss who is not the true boss I'm sure.
Some arcs really shine and just grab me. Obviously the trial of Ace was awesome. And I actually loved the Luffy prison escape.
It kinda sucks because I do love the series and stuck with it for so long. But I kinda dont know why I fell off of it. Maybe because each arc doesn't feel like its moving anything forward too much? Sure, someone will get a new power and a major boss will get taken out. Like that last arc with Don Flamingo. Story wise, what actually happened?
I don't even think the OP relates. I dunno. Thats just how I felt honestly. And actually, the art is getting long in the tooth. Its one of those animes where you can tell this thing is weekly, all year round.
How many new arcs have their been including the elephant?
But I recently stopped when they got to the elephant. Just something wasn't clicking with me anymore.
It just felt........the same again. There is a grander story I am interested in, but that shit is just spinning its wheels. You'll get snippets of it between arcs, and then thats it. Back to the usual. And with this elephant arc, I can already see the major plot points. Of course this new land is being terrorized by some miniboss who is not the true boss I'm sure.
Some arcs really shine and just grab me. Obviously the trial of Ace was awesome. And I actually loved the Luffy prison escape.
It kinda sucks because I do love the series and stuck with it for so long. But I kinda dont know why I fell off of it. Maybe because each arc doesn't feel like its moving anything forward too much? Sure, someone will get a new power and a major boss will get taken out. Like that last arc with Don Flamingo. Story wise, what actually happened?
I don't even think the OP relates. I dunno. Thats just how I felt honestly. And actually, the art is getting long in the tooth. Its one of those animes where you can tell this thing is weekly, all year round.
How many new arcs have their been including the elephant?
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Fushitsusha
Banned
She's a rude bitch in need of a good spanking.
On 414 now, and my theory seems more believeable since she and Luffy both share the same rare power.
Edit: Former slave turned Warlord?
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Cutty Flam
Banned
This will be an extended reply, tons of details within spoilers below
When Luffy traveled to Whole Cake Island, he
-Fought Big Mom’s army with only Nami by his side, 2 versus swarms of strong foes, seemingly hundreds of enemies and several of the prominent leaders of the islands of Totto Land in this first battle. Several of which were trusted enough to accompany Big Mom on her ship to Wano to claim Straw Hat Luffy's head
-Fought various Charlotte family members afterwards and throughout the WCI arc
-He fights Charlotte Cracker, essentially was the equivalent of fighting multiple Sweet Commanders for a lengthy portion of that particular battle. This was no typical foe to Luffy or anyone else for that matter. Remember Mad Monk Urouge? Cracker defeated him. This was after Urouge had already taken down a Sweet Commander himself, but still, Cracker had taken down a member of the Worst Generation. Charlotte Cracker’s bounty was 860,000,000 beri so it makes sense that it would be possible. So this enemy is no pushover in the slightest, and here Luffy is fighting him for extended battle, and in the end outwits him with strategy and sends him flying past the Seducing Woods, into Sweet City forcefully slamming through the wall(s) of the Whole Cake Chateau, Big Mom’s massive Castle
-Luffy willingly takes a beatdown from Sanji in a 1v1 fight in which he does not strike at all. Sanji wasn't putting on a front. See how high in the air he sky-walked to deliver his final blow to Luffy. He was hundreds, not just one hundred, but hundreds of feet in the air when he reached his peak to establish momentum. This is Black Foot Sanji, not holding back in the slightest as he honestly seemed to think that he needs to deter his crew from pursuing him in this matter, in Big Mom’s territory. I think Sanji knew that he could never kill Luffy, but he did aim to knock him out; and that's exactly what he did. He felt he had to in order to protect his crew. But Luffy takes major damage to the point in which he is knocked unconscious in one blow. Only Kaido has knocked Luffy out in one go. Sanji and Kaido only. And Luffy had on bandages for an episode or two after Kaido hit him with his club. Sanji hurt Luffy very badly in this instance
-After taking that hellish beatdown by Sanji, he refuses to eat until it is Sanji who prepares his food and feeds him. He recovers largely by eating meat and a ton of food along with rest. So he faces a second wave of Big Mom’s army after getting thrashed by Sanji and loses. At some point he was locked up and fights a handful more of Bib Mom Pirates, then the army once again. The enemy actually left Monkey D. Luffy in the field, left for dead in the rain. So Luffy was brutalized by a top pirate of the Worst Generation -- Vinsmoke Sanji, and then the army of Big Mom attacks him during a second battle. Apparently they thought they killed him because he was left in the field as earlier stated
-Luffy confronts the Big Mom family at large at the wedding ceremony and fights briefly during all the chaos. These are the most prominent members of the entire Charlotte family. I don't recall him fighting anyone except for Big Mom, but he was in the war zone nevertheless, completely outnumbered. Luffy briefly engages with Big Mom until he gets a hit in against her. So by the time Luffy has even gotten to Charlotte Katakuri, he has already been through hell in the Yonko’s territory, getting a piece of like 4/5ths of her entire crew almost, constantly bombarded by Big Mom Pirates all arc long. And if he's not directly fighting with them, he's in the thick of it and fighting for his life. So Luffy was very poor shape, battered and worn through plenty of fighting sequences consistently versus world renown foes and their forces. This is a Yonko’s crew we’re talking about. He’s executed plenty of battles and strategy up to this point, before facing Katakuri
-So Luffy finally reaches the Thousand Sunny, after all that he’s been through his real fight has true and most dangerous fight had not even begun yet. He briefly tangles with Charlotte Perospero, eldest member and 1st son of the Charlotte family / Big Mom Pirates
-Luffy finally confronts Charlotte Katakuri, who is aboard on his ship and has no intention of letting them set sail. Luffy immediately devises a perfect plan on the spot, the moment opportunity presents itself (Brûlée) to both protect his crew and fight Charlotte Katakuri in a battle to the death. The second she arrives through a dresser mirror in the Thousand Sunny, Luffy grabs her by the neck, grips Katakuri's entire frame with his hands (Gear 3rd) and enters what will be the designated final battleground in Mirroworld. This battle is legendary, but I’ll try not to go overboard describing the full hour’s worth of fighting, but instead detail what is significant about Luffy’s victory here. This was a battle fought on almost equal footing as both pirates are on similar levels. But here's the catch, Luffy is actually slightly weaker than Katakuri I’d estimate, and not only that—he’s less experienced. Katakuri has the upper hand by miles in this battle. He’s bigger, stronger, knows one more advanced Haki technique than Luffy. And here is another major point to be made, Katakuri was fresh going into this battle. Luffy had already taken on a legendary amount of work to ensure that he and his crew not only survive in the territory of a Yonko, but also retrieve Sanji. So Katakuri has several major advantages going for him already, going into this battle. Luffy wins despite the odds, because Katakuri is an honorable fighter and levels the playing field after finding out his little sister, Charlotte Flampe, had interfered with their fight. She had inflicted considerable damage to Luffy. Shot him in the right leg near his knee cap with something that rendered him unable to move, and right after that, Katakuri says (and I’m paraphrasing) “This fools Color of Observation is becoming as good as mine. I have to put him down or something unexpected could happen” And that is when he struck Luffy in the left side of his abdominal complex with that twirling beater-like trident of his, struck Luffy with Mochi Thrust, inflicting serious damage to Luffy
So Luffy is learning as he fights, under the worst conditions possible, the most stress on the mind probably that’s been presented, he’s facing foes that are stronger and smarter than he’s faced yet by a long shot, and he’s still finding a way to become greater under these severe circumstances. He unleashes never before seen moves in battle with Katakuri like Hawk Stamp, he goes into a completely new and unused form with Gear 4th, Snake Man. In the end Luffy overcomes the odds after he has pretty much matched and nearly mastered Katakuri’s Color of Observation, mid-battle, while having accrued much more damage during said battle, ONTOP of accruing substantially more damage and fatigue than Katakuri leading up to the battle, who was, in comparison, fully rested for such an occasion
-In short, this is what happened according to how I saw everything play out in WCI to give answer to your question: Luffy withstood nearly as much damage as a Yonko could dish out during the entirety of WCI. He defeated two foes that almost equate to half of Big Mom's bounty. He's fought with a Sweet General Commander and won convincingly, he's fought with Katakuri the second in command only behind Big Mom herself and took him down, fought versus Big Mom, and then has had a longer bout in battle with Kaido afterwards and now fully understands the level he's up against
-Luffy learns from the Hyogoro the Flower, the Yakuza Boss of Wano during the Kozuki Clan’s reign, the best form of Haki he could have possibly learned in order to take down Yonko. Busoshoku Haki allows Luffy to use his spiritual energy to create what is essentially armor that allow his much greater defensive capabilities and even magnifies his offensive capabilities; allowing Luffy to inflict more damage than ever before. It's going to be a fight like no other. The hatred those in the Worst Generation hold towards the Yonko atop Onigashima and vice versa.....Wow. This battle is for all the chips. Nobody is going down easy my man. Especially not Luffy. Thiswill be unlike any other fight as well, anything goes. It's not entirely a 1v1 affair but instead whoever's next up take your shot and see what you can do. Luffy is ready, he has everything he needs now, and I’ll tell you how in the next point how he manages such a feat in the end. Possibly, even being able to beat both consecutively if the Worst Generation can deal considerable damage to both. Somebody has to step in start cutting Big Mom up a bit while Luffy focuses on Kaido for this to happen. Kaido is someone not even Shanks can take down, so something needs to happen. Kaido is nearly impenetrable
-Gear 5th. It's now or never. Two Yonko in front of him? He can't take any chances, Luffy has to kill Kaido, it's not an option
-Fought Big Mom’s army with only Nami by his side, 2 versus swarms of strong foes, seemingly hundreds of enemies and several of the prominent leaders of the islands of Totto Land in this first battle. Several of which were trusted enough to accompany Big Mom on her ship to Wano to claim Straw Hat Luffy's head
-Fought various Charlotte family members afterwards and throughout the WCI arc
-He fights Charlotte Cracker, essentially was the equivalent of fighting multiple Sweet Commanders for a lengthy portion of that particular battle. This was no typical foe to Luffy or anyone else for that matter. Remember Mad Monk Urouge? Cracker defeated him. This was after Urouge had already taken down a Sweet Commander himself, but still, Cracker had taken down a member of the Worst Generation. Charlotte Cracker’s bounty was 860,000,000 beri so it makes sense that it would be possible. So this enemy is no pushover in the slightest, and here Luffy is fighting him for extended battle, and in the end outwits him with strategy and sends him flying past the Seducing Woods, into Sweet City forcefully slamming through the wall(s) of the Whole Cake Chateau, Big Mom’s massive Castle
-Luffy willingly takes a beatdown from Sanji in a 1v1 fight in which he does not strike at all. Sanji wasn't putting on a front. See how high in the air he sky-walked to deliver his final blow to Luffy. He was hundreds, not just one hundred, but hundreds of feet in the air when he reached his peak to establish momentum. This is Black Foot Sanji, not holding back in the slightest as he honestly seemed to think that he needs to deter his crew from pursuing him in this matter, in Big Mom’s territory. I think Sanji knew that he could never kill Luffy, but he did aim to knock him out; and that's exactly what he did. He felt he had to in order to protect his crew. But Luffy takes major damage to the point in which he is knocked unconscious in one blow. Only Kaido has knocked Luffy out in one go. Sanji and Kaido only. And Luffy had on bandages for an episode or two after Kaido hit him with his club. Sanji hurt Luffy very badly in this instance
-After taking that hellish beatdown by Sanji, he refuses to eat until it is Sanji who prepares his food and feeds him. He recovers largely by eating meat and a ton of food along with rest. So he faces a second wave of Big Mom’s army after getting thrashed by Sanji and loses. At some point he was locked up and fights a handful more of Bib Mom Pirates, then the army once again. The enemy actually left Monkey D. Luffy in the field, left for dead in the rain. So Luffy was brutalized by a top pirate of the Worst Generation -- Vinsmoke Sanji, and then the army of Big Mom attacks him during a second battle. Apparently they thought they killed him because he was left in the field as earlier stated
-Luffy confronts the Big Mom family at large at the wedding ceremony and fights briefly during all the chaos. These are the most prominent members of the entire Charlotte family. I don't recall him fighting anyone except for Big Mom, but he was in the war zone nevertheless, completely outnumbered. Luffy briefly engages with Big Mom until he gets a hit in against her. So by the time Luffy has even gotten to Charlotte Katakuri, he has already been through hell in the Yonko’s territory, getting a piece of like 4/5ths of her entire crew almost, constantly bombarded by Big Mom Pirates all arc long. And if he's not directly fighting with them, he's in the thick of it and fighting for his life. So Luffy was very poor shape, battered and worn through plenty of fighting sequences consistently versus world renown foes and their forces. This is a Yonko’s crew we’re talking about. He’s executed plenty of battles and strategy up to this point, before facing Katakuri
-So Luffy finally reaches the Thousand Sunny, after all that he’s been through his real fight has true and most dangerous fight had not even begun yet. He briefly tangles with Charlotte Perospero, eldest member and 1st son of the Charlotte family / Big Mom Pirates
-Luffy finally confronts Charlotte Katakuri, who is aboard on his ship and has no intention of letting them set sail. Luffy immediately devises a perfect plan on the spot, the moment opportunity presents itself (Brûlée) to both protect his crew and fight Charlotte Katakuri in a battle to the death. The second she arrives through a dresser mirror in the Thousand Sunny, Luffy grabs her by the neck, grips Katakuri's entire frame with his hands (Gear 3rd) and enters what will be the designated final battleground in Mirroworld. This battle is legendary, but I’ll try not to go overboard describing the full hour’s worth of fighting, but instead detail what is significant about Luffy’s victory here. This was a battle fought on almost equal footing as both pirates are on similar levels. But here's the catch, Luffy is actually slightly weaker than Katakuri I’d estimate, and not only that—he’s less experienced. Katakuri has the upper hand by miles in this battle. He’s bigger, stronger, knows one more advanced Haki technique than Luffy. And here is another major point to be made, Katakuri was fresh going into this battle. Luffy had already taken on a legendary amount of work to ensure that he and his crew not only survive in the territory of a Yonko, but also retrieve Sanji. So Katakuri has several major advantages going for him already, going into this battle. Luffy wins despite the odds, because Katakuri is an honorable fighter and levels the playing field after finding out his little sister, Charlotte Flampe, had interfered with their fight. She had inflicted considerable damage to Luffy. Shot him in the right leg near his knee cap with something that rendered him unable to move, and right after that, Katakuri says (and I’m paraphrasing) “This fools Color of Observation is becoming as good as mine. I have to put him down or something unexpected could happen” And that is when he struck Luffy in the left side of his abdominal complex with that twirling beater-like trident of his, struck Luffy with Mochi Thrust, inflicting serious damage to Luffy
So Luffy is learning as he fights, under the worst conditions possible, the most stress on the mind probably that’s been presented, he’s facing foes that are stronger and smarter than he’s faced yet by a long shot, and he’s still finding a way to become greater under these severe circumstances. He unleashes never before seen moves in battle with Katakuri like Hawk Stamp, he goes into a completely new and unused form with Gear 4th, Snake Man. In the end Luffy overcomes the odds after he has pretty much matched and nearly mastered Katakuri’s Color of Observation, mid-battle, while having accrued much more damage during said battle, ONTOP of accruing substantially more damage and fatigue than Katakuri leading up to the battle, who was, in comparison, fully rested for such an occasion
-In short, this is what happened according to how I saw everything play out in WCI to give answer to your question: Luffy withstood nearly as much damage as a Yonko could dish out during the entirety of WCI. He defeated two foes that almost equate to half of Big Mom's bounty. He's fought with a Sweet General Commander and won convincingly, he's fought with Katakuri the second in command only behind Big Mom herself and took him down, fought versus Big Mom, and then has had a longer bout in battle with Kaido afterwards and now fully understands the level he's up against
-Luffy learns from the Hyogoro the Flower, the Yakuza Boss of Wano during the Kozuki Clan’s reign, the best form of Haki he could have possibly learned in order to take down Yonko. Busoshoku Haki allows Luffy to use his spiritual energy to create what is essentially armor that allow his much greater defensive capabilities and even magnifies his offensive capabilities; allowing Luffy to inflict more damage than ever before. It's going to be a fight like no other. The hatred those in the Worst Generation hold towards the Yonko atop Onigashima and vice versa.....Wow. This battle is for all the chips. Nobody is going down easy my man. Especially not Luffy. Thiswill be unlike any other fight as well, anything goes. It's not entirely a 1v1 affair but instead whoever's next up take your shot and see what you can do. Luffy is ready, he has everything he needs now, and I’ll tell you how in the next point how he manages such a feat in the end. Possibly, even being able to beat both consecutively if the Worst Generation can deal considerable damage to both. Somebody has to step in start cutting Big Mom up a bit while Luffy focuses on Kaido for this to happen. Kaido is someone not even Shanks can take down, so something needs to happen. Kaido is nearly impenetrable
-Gear 5th. It's now or never. Two Yonko in front of him? He can't take any chances, Luffy has to kill Kaido, it's not an option
Hmm...you actually stopped at the worst possible time because right after Zou is when the things you crave the most from One Piece were about to come rushing at you. The story picks up exponentially at the end of the arc you left off on. Some of the bolder and more creative moments occur too; the following arc is one I cannot stop thinking about. Same for the two after that as well. A lot of insight into the many mysteries we as fans have wondered about for so long, are finally being touched on little by little. There was actually on chapter in the current arc that was so intense that I could hardly believe what I was seeing and reading. There is still a lot more to go, but the story is definitely moving closer towards the final stretch, which will be worth catching up to see. I think a lot of fans who stopped are going to be feeling in a frenzy when the final stage of One Piece sort of begins to take form
I sort of felt similar to you at first, I expect. But there was great beauty to the arc despite that small disappointment and honestly, that arc holds one of the most spectacular moments in the entire anime. What takes place at Zou, sets up the following arcs to perfection IMO. And you have to see the next arc. The theme of it is so creative and matches perfectly with the main character involved. You get to see the Straw Hats operate in a way you've never seen before. The enemy, the enemy's forces, the islands within the enemy's territory, everything is so robust and the ending of the arc is more than excellent - it's superb. I truly do love that arc, and I highly suggest going in with an open mind to experience the insanity that takes place there; the events that take place. I think Oda perfected the antagonists within this specific arc
I still think the Water 7 Saga is the greatest. And the couple of arcs you mentioned are without question, two of the greatest arcs in anime, period. But the arc following the arc in which you pressed pause on is top 5 material. Personally, it's my fourth favorite arc at this moment in time. And the current arc has so much going for it. Everything is spinning out of control 200mph in all directions. Even if you read week to week, there is so much to take in that you almost wish that Oda would take two weeks with each volume, but at the same time, things are so exciting now in the manga that I often can hardly wait for next chapter lol
The story of Dressrosa goes deep. I would be here for days and days if not weeks trying to explain it in its totality according to how it ought to be recognized, for all that it is
I can definitely see it from your point of view. We have shared some similar attitudes only at different times and to varying degrees I'm sure. Our perspectives differ. But that's perfectly fine
I like the drawings, and the world building is incredible. You should see the most formidable pirate that Luffy fought previously, two arcs ago. Design is genius. Same arc I've been telling you about, the one I consider to be the 4th best out of 31 arcs I think it is now? I know there's at least 30. But you have to give it another chance telling you bro, it's good
SebastianShaw
Member
Thank you! I red it all. Lets see what happens
Fushitsusha
Banned
How do these Beetle episodes relate to one of the movies? It seemed at first to be more about this Lion fellow who escaped Impel Down.
Can't say I want to see any of these bland characters again, but I'll have to check out the movie(s) anyway if so. Seeing Baratie, Dojo, Syrup Village was cool though, I'll give it that.
Can't say I want to see any of these bland characters again, but I'll have to check out the movie(s) anyway if so. Seeing Baratie, Dojo, Syrup Village was cool though, I'll give it that.
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Cutty Flam
Banned
She's a rude bitch in need of a good spanking.
On 414 now, and my theory seems more believeable since she and Luffy both share the same rare power.
Edit: Former slave turned Warlord?
I love the Boa moments every time hahaha
I seriously envy the spot in the anime you're at right now lol
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the arc, I feel like every single arc Oda crafts needs time to soak in. But if you ever find the time to make your way through the following arc, please feel free to comment on anything and everything lol, love that arc. It truly is one of the greatest
Felt almost exactly the same way you did first impression. I was probably hating on my first glance of One Piece even more than you tbh...The very first time I watched One Piece was when some friends told me about it at work one day. My friend and I had agreed to check it out later that day and to report back to our friend who was telling us a bunch about it as he was already very far along in the anime. I clicked at random, hundreds of episodes in to see what was going on, I checked out an episode in the late 400s and an episode in the early 300s and watched about a minute of each. I watched the dub and really hated it. The artstyle seemed very strange to me and I disliked it a lot. Luffy seemed like a character I would hate (this was largely due to the English dub though, I would later find out) and I thought it was beyond cringe, the scene I had watched before closing the tab. I was clowning on the anime pretty hard the next time I saw them at work. The friend who suggested One Piece to me was just sort of laughing and was like huh, guess it's not for him and never really said much more, must have decided it wasn't for me and let me go my own way
But then months later I asked my friend a question. I had just finished up an anime and was telling him about the main character and that I wished there were more like him. Asked him if there were any anime characters similar to this protagonist. He put his arms up and a hand to his chin and thought for a second (dude watches a ton of anime, was probably sifting through all he knew) and a moment later he was like "yeah, I would say Luffy" and couldn't believe what I was hearing. Was kind of in disbelief and intrigued because my friend isn't one to mince words too often, so I knew he was giving an accurate answer. Listened to what he had to say, and despite not really thinking much of the anime or what I had seen of Luffy, as I too thought he was cheesy, decided to give it a fair chance. Started watching and it developed so quickly into something unlike any other anime I've seen
One day I was hating on it, wondering why in the fuck my friend even suggested such garbage and blew it off completely without a care. Came back to it months later with an open mind and the rest is history. One Piece will always be my favorite. It blew my previous favorites out of the water and into the stratosphere, it's this good. I sincerely don't think anything is going to compare to One Piece when it's finished. This show is the epitome of what a story can do. To me it is
I never advocate for another work like I do One Piece. Even Breaking Bad, which is a timeless masterpiece IMO, I do not try to get others to watch with such vigor. But with One Piece, this is a work of art that I do not want people to miss out on if it can be avoided. It is not for everyone, but it's my suggestion to you D dcll , that you give the anime a true chance to develop. The episodes are short, like 18 minutes when you skip the intro and the ending song. They go by very quickly in the span of a month or so and you might love this show if you give it a chance. The East Blue Saga is timeless. I would recommend to anyone to watch it all, but the first 30 episodes is a very strong showing of what One Piece is about. You can also read the manga, which is amazing. But 30 episodes of the anime will show you what you're getting into. By episode 42 you'll have an excellent sample of the show
Beetle episodes...trying to remember - are you talking about Heracles at Boin Archipelago? The place where Usopp was launched to? Either way, I couldn't comment much on it; have only seen three One Piece movies currently, and none of them involved Shiki the Golden Lion aka "The Flying Pirate"
Fushitsusha
Banned
That must be one crappy movie if it focus as much on these Amigo Pirates instead of Shiki is all... It's like from 425-430 (hopefully).
And yeah, Boa became pretty cool. I even saw a Boa figurine so she must be quite popular. I didn't think much of her at first, almost like a throwaway character.
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Cutty Flam
Banned
Hahahaha, the Amigo Pirates lol. Just looked them up, I honestly don’t remember them, like at all
I do recall Golden Lion Shiki though. He’s fucking tough. I can only slightly recount what was said about Shiki, but he’s a top pirate I think, especially during the time of the Roger Pirates