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Now that games are 70 dollars and 80 euro, there should be a week one discount
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Virt McPolygon
Banned
This is actually a brilliant idea. People are dumb as fuck when it comes to FOMO.. especially considering sales.
DelireMan7
Member
If you're really concern about prices on release then... don't buy on release. After few months, the price decrease significantly. Nobody forces you to buy a game at a price you find too high.
Also if 10 euros difference is a concern, you can easily find a physical copy for minus 10-15 euros, on the second hand market within a week or 2 of release.
Also if 10 euros difference is a concern, you can easily find a physical copy for minus 10-15 euros, on the second hand market within a week or 2 of release.
Nico_D
Member
I think it is true that higher prices may result some loss of revenue. Personally, I rarely buy 70 € game but wait it to drop to 20-30 €. So the loss is 40 to 50 €. If a game costs 50 €, I'm far more likely to buy it on launch resulting to only 20 € loss.
What I know is that I used to buy a lot more games on their release date when they were around 50 €.
What I know is that I used to buy a lot more games on their release date when they were around 50 €.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
What’s price of PS5 games got to do with gamepass ?
xrnzaaas
Member
How about we vote with our wallets? I know that I wouldn't buy any game for 80€, even if this was something I was really looking forward to playing. Also like it was already mentioned buying physical copies might be the way to go since you can resell the game with a minor loss.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Like the woke revolution in games publishers and censorship keep taking it as a console war point and focus on the tip of the iceberg... Cost of making games has increased and not all publishers are all on the extreme micro transactions money train.
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marcincz
Member
Imo, it depends.
I can pay 80E for huge games like Gran Turismo 7, GoW 2 or HZD2, but 80E for Returnal, Sackboy or R&C?
AAA(A?) games for 80 E? Ok.
Rest od them? No.
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
There were games back then for N64 and SNES that did cost 80 bucks too.
If you count in inflation it's about the same now.
If you count in inflation it's about the same now.
93xfan
Banned
Neither Microsoft nor Nintendo are doing $70 games. Sony stand alone in this.
And with that pricing, I don’t see them creating an option as enticing as Gamepass.
Sony choosing to stick out in this way makes them deserving negative comparisons.
93xfan
Banned
I can see some games that overdo it on content being worth over $60.
Smash Bros Ultimate and Gran Turismo/Forza come to mind. But I’m glad MS and Nintendo don’t go that route as I think it would be a mistake.
I don’t feel like a lot of the story driven games that you play through once or twice in your life are unmissable classics like the Legend of Zelda: alltp, Street Fighter 2, and Mario 64. Also, the price of carts.
You also have to consider the market. I remember when some of the first TV shows on DVD were over $100 per season. That price point changed drastically as more shows became available.
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Team Andromeda
Member
Buy a Series X
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
I used to buy most new releases on Amazon because they did that 10% discount on preorders. Then they stopped that. Not sure if it's a regional thing but now Walmart seems to do discount on all their new games, no preorder necessary. $60 games are all $50 and $40 games are $33.
I'm not even gonna preorder RE8 I'm just gonna drop by Wally World when it comes out and get it for $50.
I'm not even gonna preorder RE8 I'm just gonna drop by Wally World when it comes out and get it for $50.
Memorabilia
Member
Personally, I’m very fond of the 6 month 50% off discount or the 12 month 75% off discount.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
They know that people can't wait to play games. It's precisely why they can get away with it, and will.
We live in a world where people pre-order digital games months in advance, of course people will buy new games week one for $70.
The real answer (as always) is buy consoles with disc drives so you can sell games that weren't worth it.
We live in a world where people pre-order digital games months in advance, of course people will buy new games week one for $70.
The real answer (as always) is buy consoles with disc drives so you can sell games that weren't worth it.
Companies fleeced us and it so obvious a mile away.
1. They knew gamers wouldnt pay more than 60 ten years ago
2. To make more money they started adding microtransactions for costmetics, then it was content, then tehy started actively removing content that used to be part of a standard game and selling it separately.
3. Now the games are making more money than ever. These big companies are not hurting financially, just check the numbers. Even if game development costs have increased, they are making money.
4. Now increase the cost of games, but dont remove all that extra MTX and paid DLC etc.
Profit.
1. They knew gamers wouldnt pay more than 60 ten years ago
2. To make more money they started adding microtransactions for costmetics, then it was content, then tehy started actively removing content that used to be part of a standard game and selling it separately.
3. Now the games are making more money than ever. These big companies are not hurting financially, just check the numbers. Even if game development costs have increased, they are making money.
4. Now increase the cost of games, but dont remove all that extra MTX and paid DLC etc.
Profit.
Spaceman292
Banned
You're saying that charging more will get them less money? Are you high?
CeeJay
Member
I could see this working for games that would be seen as a launch week risk to buy to try and get some early sales that they wouldn't have otherwise got. Any big games however that are guaranteed number 1 best sellers such as your God of Wars, Horizons or Last of Us would have no incentive to discount day one as they know people are hyped and would buy it launch week anyway.
Bryank75
Banned
True, there would be no point with those...
cormack12
Gold Member
I always think this should be the case. We all want a healthy industry and there needs to be better approaches. Even in retail. If I had the power general changes I would make
20% discount on preorders (orders placed before the game releases)
Retail can sell physical copies 2 days before digital storefronts updated
Digital loses the 'tax' due to the above
20% discount on preorders (orders placed before the game releases)
Retail can sell physical copies 2 days before digital storefronts updated
Digital loses the 'tax' due to the above
Bryank75
Banned
That sounds awesome, I'd love that. Retail also needs something going for them.... so that is great from their perspective too.
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
True, those oldies often have much more replay value. My point is, back then the prices came from the carts and extra hardware that often was in them, today it comes from the high production values of modern games. I think games priced at 80 bucks and still have microtransactions and loot boxes are very problematic, otherwise, I am fine with it.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yes it's an interesting idea. As it stands there is little incentive to pre-order and like you say most games you just have to wait a couple of months for. a discount and if you've waited that long you may wait longer for a bigger discount.
Interestingly Bethesda (Now MS I guess) are sort of doing this for Death Loop, if you pre-order digitally it is discounted for PS+ members. The game is £53.99 reduced from RRP of £59.99, I'm almost tempted to pre-order it just to show support for the concept in the hope that Sony (and other publishers) see the data and do similar in future.
Interestingly Bethesda (Now MS I guess) are sort of doing this for Death Loop, if you pre-order digitally it is discounted for PS+ members. The game is £53.99 reduced from RRP of £59.99, I'm almost tempted to pre-order it just to show support for the concept in the hope that Sony (and other publishers) see the data and do similar in future.
Memorabilia
Member
Best Buy had this thing called GCU that was essentially similar to what you're describing at least with regards to physical copies. Amazon sort of matched them for a while. Then Gamestop joined the fun. Then one by one they all abandoned each of these plans. Without knowing the particulars of why my guess was that margins are/were too tight to justify it, or at least that would be the excuse.
Yes the fact remains and will continue to remain (even if all digital) that you can get great games on sale, as long as you dont want to be there on day 1.
cormack12
Gold Member
That's quite interesting. I'm guessing they must have had data to prove it wasn't that beneficial. I'm 99% digital only, most carts are from the Switch but I really think retail needs a shot in the arm. It can't disappear. The thought of only digital does not appeal to me. The onyl way to bring back to retail is with incentives imo and I don't think boosting digital sale prices is the answer.
MrS
Banned
Depends on the platform. MS can’t raise the prices of their games if they have no games to put out which, based on their pitiful launch lineup, they don’t.
420bits
Member
Games are cheaper now then when I was a kid and bought nintendogames.
Prices isn't a problem, the problem is buying a game that's not worth the price and that's on you as a consumer.
I gladly pay 100 bucks for another souls-game or God of War, I wouldn't pay 5 bucks for another CoD-game.
If the game is NOT in the SSS-Tier (for you) then don't buy it and wait for a sale, its not a fucking right of buying games cheap.
Prices isn't a problem, the problem is buying a game that's not worth the price and that's on you as a consumer.
I gladly pay 100 bucks for another souls-game or God of War, I wouldn't pay 5 bucks for another CoD-game.
If the game is NOT in the SSS-Tier (for you) then don't buy it and wait for a sale, its not a fucking right of buying games cheap.
CyberChulo
Member
Just keep playing your PS5 updated backlog if you can hold out for eventual discounts some months down the line from release day. I used to pay day 1 prices for PS2, PS3 and PS4 games. But with this price hike I will have to wait. Unless it's a game that I can't really wait to play, they will have to wait. I really want to play Returner but when I found out it was going to be $70, I had to rethink things. The exceptions that I will make are:
God of War
Horizon Forbidden West
Next Uncharted game?
God of War
Horizon Forbidden West
Next Uncharted game?
Banjo64
cumsessed
Sony reading this thread...
For real though, I feel you mate. £70 is a bloody joke for single player games that will still be amazing in 3 years but will cost £15.
Lmao, that you think Nintendo won't hop onto this. They are charging $60 for a game that is a minimal remaster of a decade old game. Them charging $70 is an inevitability, especially as they witness reports of the industry being up YoY and software sales being undeterred. As for MS, I'm not going to speak for them. But can speak for major 3rd publishers like Activision and 2K, who reported sales unphased by by the hike.
Now Sony needs to do a better job of conversions for outside countries most certainly. The blanket increase to 70 has different implications per country.
And returning back to $70 point, that looks to be max price. Sony appears to have interest of Lost Legacy, Ratchet/Clank (2016), and Miles Morales experiences to cut down dev time, and price. So their price range can go from $50 to $70 determining by scope of game.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Many times gamers just waited for price drops.
Exactly
alabtrosMyster
Banned
I'm in Canada, it's 90$ for us (and we get paid in canadian $, salaries similar or lower than our southern neighbors)... I'm seriously considering going back to pirating, I'll buy one or two games a year, then just you know... Torrent the rest.
And this will rise even more the prices for "small ish" indie games, so indies will move into the 40 - 60$ range. Imagine, not too long ago they were 5 - 20$. now I can't even get a game like Owl Boy for less than 20$ when it's on sale!Pixel art games used to be 10$ day one.
And this will rise even more the prices for "small ish" indie games, so indies will move into the 40 - 60$ range. Imagine, not too long ago they were 5 - 20$. now I can't even get a game like Owl Boy for less than 20$ when it's on sale!Pixel art games used to be 10$ day one.
Fbh
Member
Don't underestimate the irresistible need a lot of people have to own games on day 1.
I thought day 1 sales would for sure see a significant drop in the last 3-4 years now that most games are already on sale after as little as 1-2 months. But nope, in fact people seem more eager than ever to pick things up at launch.
Hell, when you see someone who is on the fence about a new release, suggesting to them to maybe wait a few days and check out online impressions before buying it still often seen as this completely unreasonable thing to do.
It's like:
"Hmmmm they have hardly shown any console footage of Cyberpunk, I wonder if the console version is crap?"
"Well you could just wait a couple of days before buying and the internet will be full of videos and impressions letting you know exactly how good or badly it runs"
"No way!!! I need this right now!!!! I have it pre loaded on my console and ready to go the very second it's out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- a day later-
"OMG it looks and runs like crap, this sucks. How could this happen? fucking hell there was no way to know this before buying!!!"
I thought day 1 sales would for sure see a significant drop in the last 3-4 years now that most games are already on sale after as little as 1-2 months. But nope, in fact people seem more eager than ever to pick things up at launch.
Hell, when you see someone who is on the fence about a new release, suggesting to them to maybe wait a few days and check out online impressions before buying it still often seen as this completely unreasonable thing to do.
It's like:
"Hmmmm they have hardly shown any console footage of Cyberpunk, I wonder if the console version is crap?"
"Well you could just wait a couple of days before buying and the internet will be full of videos and impressions letting you know exactly how good or badly it runs"
"No way!!! I need this right now!!!! I have it pre loaded on my console and ready to go the very second it's out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- a day later-
"OMG it looks and runs like crap, this sucks. How could this happen? fucking hell there was no way to know this before buying!!!"
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SkylineRKR
Member
Play the waiting game. Play some old games you never finished. There is a lot of it. By the time a game is properly patched or even finished, you can likely find it for a bargain.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Yes, I remember some SNES and N64 games costing $80. But you have it wrong. If you factor in inflation, those would be way more expensive.
The people that suffer most from the increase are the people who don’t wait for sales. I would guess a lot of casuals, gifts, and kids would fall into that category.
Aguero9320
Member
People pay $70 or 80euro for games? I've seen it all now...
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Aguero9320
Member
To some people, I think so...
Sony deserve hammering for this, but it won't happen because their fans are too loyal. Microsoft is massively decreasing the cost of entry for players, and Sony because they did well recently feel it's okay to price gouge at the same time - the gap is yawningly wide on this issue. Nope. Get fucked. I'll wait even longer to buy the likes of R&C because of that ridiculous price tag, there's no rush. When it's sub $30 six months later I'll play exactly the same game as everyone else. Currently waiting for Miles Morales to be below $20, whenever that happens I'll play it.
OP is a rare breed - a Sony fan not afraid to be critical of Sony, applaud him for that at least. Not sure why he won't, under any circumstance, jump ship though. That bit makes no sense to me.