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Zack Snyder's Justice League | Official Trailer

Cravis

Member
I want that post-apocalypse Batman movie.
Looks like the 4chan leak was right:
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That sounds amazing. I’m down with that if true.
 

oagboghi2

Member
So im asking you what is your 10 out of 10 movie?

Were waiting
No one gives a shit about what you think is a 10/10.
Sit down

Not expecting this to be the next great superhero movie, but Joss Whedon did such a terrible job on the original JL that I just want to see what Snyder's original vision was, good or bad. Also, in a year where so many movies have already been delayed to who knows when, I'll take what I can get at this point.
That's all I want. Let's see what Snyder actual idea was. I don't know why this is so diffucult for some people to understand.
I never liked how they went with the realism in man of steel and shoehorned in dcu Into it with stupid magic and fantasy. They ruined what could have been some good superman standalone movies with their obsession trying to chase marvel.

This steppenwolf was some
Magical big bad that turns out to be nothing more than a jobber for superman.

This movie is shit.
You haven't seen it.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
No one gives a shit about what you think is a 10/10.
Sit down


That's all I want. Let's see what Snyder actual idea was. I don't know why this is so diffucult for some people to understand.

You haven't seen it.

Here's where we agree.

I think the defense is because so many are in here crapping on the movie thinking it's the same thing as the theatrical release. The basic barebones framework for the story is the se.but the beats are different... Plus it's 4 hours with all the original footage, plus about 10 mins of new footage... None of the Whedon reshoots.
 

Dacon

Banned
New Stepenwolf looks like Gears of War grub

Please bring back the original version
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I actually prefer the new more alien look to the generic wow raid boss look.
Here's where we agree.

I think the defense is because so many are in here crapping on the movie thinking it's the same thing as the theatrical release. The basic barebones framework for the story is the se.but the beats are different... Plus it's 4 hours with all the original footage, plus about 10 mins of new footage... None of the Whedon reshoots.

I mean it's FOUR HOURS. There's going to be plenty of shit in here we haven't seen before.
 

xandaca

Member
As rubbish as this is likely to be, I think Ben Affleck is absolutely fantastic as Bruce/Batman and it's a great shame he never got his own movie. Maybe comic books fans can nitpick his performance, but as someone who has only experienced Batman on film (and TV, but that's a very different style of Batman), Affleck is my favourite and has the most gravitas of any screen incarnation, even if the writing let him down. Not sure I can handle four hours of this - and I've partially defended some of Snyder's output - but it'll be good to see Affleck in the batsuit one last time.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Dude there's a whole 2 hours of footage we haven't seen, and whedon's content is removed.

It's not the same movie.
The problem is some stuff people THINK is Whedon is actually Snyder. The rooftop scene with Gordon where Flash is being all jokey is one thing people blast Whedon for, when it’s a Snyder scene that he was shooting when they had the media set visit during filming.


 
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Dacon

Banned
The problem is some stuff people THINK is Whedon is actually Snyder. The rooftop scene with Gordon where Flash is being all jokey is one thing people blast Whedon for, when it’s a Snyder scene that he was shooting when they had the media set visit during filming.




So? Not sure why you're using my post as a jumping off point for all of this. I don't have a problem with any of this.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Back in 2017 an Era poster who worked on the movie detailed what is Whedon and what was Snyder:
Edit: -superman in the cell phone footage is Whedon

- intro with Batman was Whedon, same with Batman in the plane talking to Alfred

- World without Hope montage was Snyder. The Lois bit with the empty bed next to her is actually from a later point in the movie repurposed for this

- Snyder original cut had the World without Hope montage go straight into Batman meeting with Aquaman in the village which went on longer as well. Same with their conversation after as Aquaman swims off

- Deleted Snyder scene with Martha and Lois talking in the apartment.

- Wonder Woman sequence in London is mostly all Snyder but trimmed down as the original had her taking out all the bad guys and additional slow-mo. Snyder loves his close up to convey information as there's a close up of the lead bad guy changing the gun from single to automatic mode after Wonder Woman stops the first bullet. Reshoots did add dialogue between Wonder Woman and lead bad guy before she stops all the bullets. This reshoot had everything finished to get it ready for the movie so I suspect this will be in extended version

- this cuts into the Amazonian which is Snyder and mostly not changed. A scene they removed was an Amazon being turned into a demon during Steppenwolf initial encounter. She kills herself before the transformation finishes. This shot was finished so maybe extended version

- anything with the russian family is Whedon

- Cyborgs dad talking to the janitor at Star Labs was Whedon

- Cyborg intro with his dad is a longer scene as well and Snyder . The scene starts with him looking at the people walking around the streets enjoying their lives as he looks on with envy.

- Wonder Woman meeting up with Batman while he repairs the jet was Snyder, them discussing the nature of the motherboxes on the Lake was Whedon.

- Thousand year battle is mostly the same in Snyder version, there was a back and forth between adding more focus on the Green Lantern or not. Darkseid actually showed up here as a visual stand in for Steppenwolf as one point the model wasn't quite ready yet.

- Flash scene filling out the forms and visiting his dad is Snyder

- Batman meeting Flash was Snyder. Whedon added 'people are slow, I'll try to keep up' bit

- Aquaman saving the man out in the sea was originally the end montage footage repurposed to here and it was Snyder. I believe the bits of him dumping the guy at the bar is Snyder as well

- Aquaman coming back as Steppenwolf tries and succeed in taking the motherbox is Snyder still. The only real change up is when Aquaman and Mera have a discussion which again went on longer and was a mix of both Snyder, Whedon and Wan as Aquaman was filming at the time

The discussion between Mera and Aquaman was deleted at some point and I believe someone fought hard for this to come back in the edit which I'm glad they kept in.

- janitor being taken by the demon is Snyder

- Woman on tv about her missing husband, Lois/Martha at the daily planet is Whedon

- Cyborg calling out to meet Wonder Woman and their meeting on the streets is mostly Snyder. There may be some minor bits with Cyborg as a reshoot but unsure. Alfred line about date night may have been ADR later

- Cyborg dad being kidnapped by demon to Gordon in the station to the gang meeting up on the roof and then heading to the sewers is Snyder but trimmed by a few seconds.

- Wonder Woman talking about 'doing this together as a team' and Cyborg 'didn't think you were real' were cut

- Flash panicking and Batman encouraging him to save one person is Whedon

- Cyborg saving his dad is mostly the same so Snyder.

- Wonder Woman openly taunts Steppenwolf was cut before shoving him through the wall. The fight is Snyder with added Whedon dialogue as Wonder Woman looks pissed Steppenwolf mentioned his axe having amazon blood on it.

- Flash interrupts Batman as he fights the demons, this is where the dodge sequence occurred and later cut. There was an attempt to keep it in for many versions with even a reshoot element of Flash saying 'I thought we were suppose to do this together!' Flash pushing the demon through the wall was later repurposed as Cyborg doing it. Most likely will not be extended version

- I believe Batman yells at Flash to ensure the Star Labs people are out with Cyborgs help as a demon starts to overpower Batman

- Scene with Cyborg getting people out as Flash looks on is cut

- the Flash getting people out one at a time is Whedon as is Cyborg dad explaining to him that they're after the box as Cyborg shoots a demon (repurposed from earlier)

- Batman fighting the demon on the higher level is Snyder with the WW fight still the same.

- Steppenwolf throws WW to the wall and then charges his axe at her which she dodges, this attack causes a chain reaction in which the building starts to crumble on the outside and there's now falling debris which leds towards a cut of the Star Labs people outside with the Flash. He see the debris falling so he uses his speed to punch the debris out of the way from the people but somehow misses the last big piece in which Cyborg shoots it out of the way. This was cut and in the original trailer:



This sequence had mostly finished VFX but I doubt you will see this in extended

- Batman saying 'my turn' is Snyder and is cut replaced with 'I didn't bring a sword' and 'he's tall' is Whedon.

- Cyborg asking Flash to go check on the others is cut. VFX was finished as well

- Flash helping WW with her sword is Snyder. Face plant joke after is Whedon

- Whedon reshoot of Flash replying with 'does he mean me?' when Steppenwolf mentions the Old Gods blood is cut

- WW doing her arm thing, Flash being taken by the demons, Cyborg taking over the vehicle and shooting at Steppenwolf and the flood is Snyder

- Reshot element from Wan of Aquaman emerging from the water to kick Steppenwolf before turning back to try to help slow down the flooding.

- 'did he just bail?' is ADR in, not part of Snyder original cut.

- Meeting up with Gordon and Cyborg coming back with the box is Snyder. Some scenes trimmed down

- Steppenwolf speech about finding the last box is mostly the same in Snyder.

- The gang going to the Batcave is Whedon, there was an extended scene with Flash and Alfred and Flash hugs Alfred some reason.

- The gang talking about the nature of the boxes and bringing back Superman is Whedon. Gal was not available during this time as she was doing press tour for Wonder Woman so her double was her stand in and even did some acting and that bit with her hitting Batman. In the wide shots if you look carefully you can still see that it's not Gal.

The footage of Gal was shot on a later date with green screen and composited in

- Batman talking to Alfred about Superman was Whedon

- Batman overlooking the ship is Snyder. Batman talking to Wonder Woman about the plan overlooking the kryptonian ship is Whedon

- the Lois shot from earlier in the opening montage movie was a part of this sequence as Alfred attempts to call her as well. Snyder

- break into the kryptonian ship was a longer, Cyborgs dad fakes a code red to get everyone out of the lab so the gang can get in without any major issues. There was some more additional dialogue with Flash and Aquaman. Snyder with a small chance that this may be in the extended

- preparing Superman body for the ship is Snyder.

- deleted scene - Cyborg having a premonition during his countdown. During the count of 'one' he starts to see things of possibly future events such as the end of the League, knightmare world and more importantly Darkseid.

- Superman resurrection and battle with the league members is mostly Snyder with bits trimmed down.

- Flash mentioning 'pet semenetary' is Whedon

- Flash actively tries to kick Superman during their fight which was cut

- Anytime Superman is talking during this is Whedon, even 'do you bleed?'

- Batman making a quip about if he's bleeding is Whedon

- Steppenwolf stealing the last box is the same in all versions

- Superman coming home to his farm with Lois is Snyder.

- Gang discussing their plan of attack now is Whedon

- Batman and Wonder Woman talking about leadership and her fixing his arm is all Whedon

- Superman talking about the ring is Snyder and cut. Superman talking to Lois in the field is Whedon. Not sure if Martha showing up to meet her son is Whedon or Snyder

- Steppenwolf preparing the unification is the same in all versions

- Cyborg finding the location is Whedon which leads to the gang getting on the ship is Snyder

- deleted scene of Superman coming back to the kryptonian ship and getting his suit back. VFX was finished so maybe extended version

- Aquaman with the lasso of Truth is all Whedon, Gal again wasn't here so body double in the wide shot with Gal elements being shot later

- Batman taking down the shield and the league helping each other out to reach Steppenwolf is Snyder. Close up of Wonder Woman smiling is a Whedon as well Batman making quips during this scene

- Deleted scenes - showing various people around the worlds reacting to the unification process as red skies and lightening start to happen (Martha/Lois, Cyborg Dad, Gordon, Aquaman village at the beginning, london and so forth)

- Trailer scene with Wonder Woman saying 'shall we?' with Aquaman and Cyborg was adjusted. 'Shall we' was cut and replaced with the new Whedon line

- Cyborg and Flash stuff here is mostly now all Whedon

- Batman telling Flash to get people to safety is Whedon

- lots of Wonder Woman and Aquaman fighting are adjusted or reordered but still Snyder

- Superman coming back is all Whedon. There was a wide shot of Superman during the 'I like truth' which was removed but the final edit of how it plays out is better in my opinion

- Superman with the slow mo punch dodge is Snyder. As before anything with Superman talking is Whedon during this finale

- Original previs was Wonder Woman cutting off Steppenwolf head but later changed. Steppenwolf demise was reworked a few times

- Steppenwolf fear demise through the boomtube is Whedon

- there was concept art showing the trinity looking through the end of the boomtube revealing Darkseid. Unsure if this element was ever filmed as the movie itself never had it in any version I saw.

- The slow mo shot of all of them with Flash fist bumping Cyborg is Snyder

- close up with the trinity is three different elements composited together as the actors were not available at the same time.

- the end montage is Snyder (yes, even that weird run Flash does) with Whedon element being Wonder Woman stopping the robbery in London

THE END

Flash doing the race with Superman = Whedon
Lex discussing forming their own league = Snyder


All of that Russian family shit was stupid, but Bruce’s dialog “He was more human than I am. He lived in this world. Fell in love, got a job, despite all that power. The world needs Superman. And the team needs Clark.” was Whedon and it’s a shame that line is gone.
 
Still looks like a lot of really fake CGI nonsense and typical Zach Snyder flashy weirdness.

This was a terrible movie when it was released, and I don't see it being any better with reshoots or edits.
 

VulcanRaven

Member
I wasn't planning on watching this on March 18th but I probably will. I didn't really like the trailer but this is basically a new movie so I need to see this. I just wish the HBO Nordic app had 4K resolution here. It only has movies in 1080p. :(
 
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OnionSnake

Banned
I wasn't planning on watching this on March 18th but I probably will. I didn't really like the trailer but this is basically a new movie so I need to see this. I just wish the HBO Nordic app had 4K resolution here. It only has movies in 1080p. :(
Even the new theater movies? It’s 1080p only here in the US except these new limited movies are 4K HDR
 

Kadve

Member
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Its that skinny chick on the right supposed to be granny goodness? Darkseid also looks way to lanky, but i guess his normal barn door look wouldn't come off good in this artstyle.

DeSaad looks great though.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Still looks like a lot of really fake CGI nonsense and typical Zach Snyder flashy weirdness.

This was a terrible movie when it was released, and I don't see it being any better with reshoots or edits.

And it’s the real sequel to Batman V Superman... which was shit. Why are people thinking this will be so much better? It’s not like it’s a sequel to a really great movie.

I’m genuinely hoping it’s a huge improvement, but is it likely to be?
 
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KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
And it’s the real sequel to Batman V Superman... which was shit. Why are people thinking this will be so much better? It’s not like it’s a sequel to a really great movie.

I’m genuinely hoping it’s a huge improvement, but is it likely to be?

Because your opinion is not the only one in the world ? The fact that we have the Snyder Cut coming next month should give you some hints. You don't like it, fine. Grow up and move on.
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
What an asinine response... complaining about somebody else having an opinion... by stating your own opinion.

Yeah you see what you want to see. I have no problem with any opinion but "it's shit" is just some trolling. It seems like you don't understand that some people loved BvS, I have no problem with someone saying 'I'm not a fan of BvS and MoS, maybe this will be better but wait and see'.
Do you see the difference ? I'm sure you can, even if I'm bad in English.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Yeah you see what you want to see. I have no problem with any opinion but "it's shit" is just some trolling. It seems like you don't understand that some people loved BvS, I have no problem with someone saying 'I'm not a fan of BvS and MoS, maybe this will be better but wait and see'.
Do you see the difference ? I'm sure you can, even if I'm bad in English.

Yes, some did indeed love BvS. But most thought it was shit.

I’m pretty sure I’m not making a controversial statement here...
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
Yes, some did indeed love BvS. But most thought it was shit.

I’m pretty sure I’m not making a controversial statement here...

And yet the fans are making their voices heard, now we have the Snyder Cut. Probably because BvS has grown on a lot of people.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
There's this weird cultish like following of Snyder that I don't understand. Why do people like him so much? Watchman was good. 300 was entertaining. I haven't liked any of his DC stuff. What am I missing?
 
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SJRB

Gold Member
Junkie XL is KILLING IT !




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It's so good that we're getting a new soundtrack.

Almost literally anything is better than the recycled diarrhea we got in JL. I just rewatched the bit where Superman enters the Steppenwolf fight [yeah I hate myself], the super cheap use of the iconic Superman theme is just so, so lazy.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
The problem is some stuff people THINK is Whedon is actually Snyder. The rooftop scene with Gordon where Flash is being all jokey is one thing people blast Whedon for, when it’s a Snyder scene that he was shooting when they had the media set visit during filming.



I wonder if Snyder, seeing how some fans reacted to that, is going to double down on the grimdark in his edit.

What's the likelihood of getting a second chance to redo a movie, having the luxury of seeing what everyone hated about Whedon's version, and still cranking out a piece of crap? For Snyder's sake, I hope he knocks this one out of the park and polishes this turd into gold.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
What's the likelihood of getting a second chance to redo a movie, having the luxury of seeing what everyone hated about Whedon's version, and still cranking out a piece of crap? For Snyder's sake, I hope he knocks this one out of the park and polishes this turd into gold.

The Lester Superman II is still better than Donner's version. And it took more than 20 years to get the Donner cut.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
There's this weird cultish like following of Snyder that I don't understand. Why do people like him so much? Watchman was good. 300 was entertaining. I haven't liked any of his DC stuff. What am I missing?
There is nothing cultish about it. This isnt the first time a director's cut has been released. Ridley Scott has released what 5 Blade Runner Director's cuts?

The only difference in this case is that it wasnt just the studio messing with the director's vision, they literally fired the guy and had another guy come in and completely butcher his movie. Dozens of shots in the trailers were not in the final version. Entire scenes were taken out. Embarrassing scenes with Flash grabbing Wonder Woman's tits were added in. Entire Junkie XL score was thrown out. The entire look of the final battle was changed. This was far far worse than what they did to David Fincher's alien movie.

Is it really that weird to think that people would want to see the original version?

Also, unlike say David Ayer who also had his movie butchered by a trailerhouse company no less, Snyder has a far larger following due to his work on 300 and Watchmen. Man of Steel is widely derided on the internet as an awful movie, but I thought it looked stunning and had some great fight sequences.

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His fans just want to see more of this.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
There is nothing cultish about it. This isnt the first time a director's cut has been released. Ridley Scott has released what 5 Blade Runner Director's cuts?

The only difference in this case is that it wasnt just the studio messing with the director's vision, they literally fired the guy and had another guy come in and completely butcher his movie. Dozens of shots in the trailers were not in the final version. Entire scenes were taken out. Embarrassing scenes with Flash grabbing Wonder Woman's tits were added in. Entire Junkie XL score was thrown out. The entire look of the final battle was changed. This was far far worse than what they did to David Fincher's alien movie.

Is it really that weird to think that people would want to see the original version?

Also, unlike say David Ayer who also had his movie butchered by a trailerhouse company no less, Snyder has a far larger following due to his work on 300 and Watchmen. Man of Steel is widely derided on the internet as an awful movie, but I thought it looked stunning and had some great fight sequences.

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Was there a concentrated harrassment campaign to get Ridley Scott to do a director's cut of blade runner? Or did the studios simply think they could make more money for a home video release? Not exactly the same.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Was there a concentrated harrassment campaign to get Ridley Scott to do a director's cut of blade runner? Or did the studios simply think they could make more money for a home video release? Not exactly the same.
i dont understand where this harassment campaign thing came from? ive been following the snydercut movement since launch and I never saw anyone being harassed.

it was mostly just some nerds organizing protests and going through leaked footage to try and figure out what was missed.

who was harassed? the actors? they were on snyder's side. nameless WB execs?
 

sol_bad

Member


I'm really glad I'm not the only one that has an issue with this 4:3 shit. I really hope the actual film is not 4:3.
 
Yeah.. all this talk about turd-polishing, Whedon's shit being out, etc etc.. I dunno. Can anyone really stand 4 hours of bad dialog? Sure this will have some nice looking shots, but come on. Those moments will be padded with unbearable bullshit. This movie should've just been Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.
 
Looks like a ridiculous, over the top, CGI shit fest. Also, I've not seen the actual justice league film. Is this a reboot, or a directors cut or something?
 
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