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Agnostic2020
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If that was the case xsx would run them better since xsx cpu with smt off (not using zen2 cores )has higher clock . Its not the case. Ps5 uses unified L3 cache where as xsx uses a inferior split cache. Ps5 is just designed with less bottlenecks .
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
We should all enter into a joint lawsuit against MS for their 'most powerful' nonsense. Hold their feet over the coals
Bernd Lauert
Banned
This is wrong. The XSX has higher texture fill rate and higher ray triangle intersections per second.
30 fps? Its 60 and xsx hits 1080p
I guess this went over your head but that was someone trolling the Unreal 5 demo on PS5 when they thought Xbox Series X was going to be so much better lol
Agnostic2020
Member
Its not one frame“Series X has single frame drops plus bigger dips in parametric camera option.”
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Why would a higher CPU clock be relevant when the CPU is mostly irrelevant? Makes no sense. He was talking about Smart Shift.
sircaw
Banned
Is it not about time to say yer, the ps5 is just a better-engineered machine than the xobx.
I mean it's what 8-0 or something with the 10.3 tflop machines beating the 12.
why keep this charade going on for longer than it has too.
the sooner you admit it we can all be friends again.
Bankai
Member
i didn’t say it was! It’s a direct quote from the OP man.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Is it not about time to say yer, the ps5 is just a better-engineered machine than the xobx.
I mean it's what 8-0 or something with the 10.3 tflop machines beating the 12.
why keep this charade going on for longer than it has too.
the sooner you admit it we can all be friends again.
I see you have zero arguments lmao
Agnostic2020
Member
U said they r not really using zen2 since these are mostly done for last gen(8 core/8 threads) in which case xsx cpu would outperform ps5 cpu theoretically in a 60 fps mode with higher clock. But its not the case.
sircaw
Banned
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Tiamat2san
Member
Quick question, can you disable simulation options, faults and play a more arcade game this way?
Infinite stamina etc.
Infinite stamina etc.
Agnostic2020
Member
Mr Moose
Member
He's correct:
It stays there for long period of time where as its locked 60 on ps5
“Series X has single frame drops plus bigger dips in parametric camera option.”
That's the "plus bigger dips" part.
dano1
A Sheep
X Gon' Give It To Ya
Someday..
Someday..
bitbydeath
Member
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
These comparison threads are about how console stack up against each other.
So far, in many games tested, PlayStation 5 is holding a higher average when it comes to dynamic resolution scaling. This may go unnoticed by people the vast majority of gamers, but we're talking about a PlayStation 5 console that many believed wouldn't outperform or perform this console against "the most powerful console" in the world.
JLB
Banned
You can rest easy and remove the quotes there. Its the most powerful console in the world. In this world 12 is still bigger than dynamic 10.
Evilms
Banned
Too bad when PS5 hits 1440p, XSX has to drop to 1080p to maintain the same performance
Great Hair
Banned
Can we please take a minute to appreciate the presentation and production quality of John's video? He's so far ahead of the game compared to other channels / other DF members.
Well duh! He made, edited this video in February and uploaded it to YT, which took this long to transcode it to 4K. We would have had this comparison in may of 2020!
Still waiting on that promised 4K stream for Dirt 5 video and COD. Bunch of *****.
Next Gen Microsoft Series S = 1080p60
14 Threads @ 3.6Ghz
10GB vram (2GB for OS?, 2GB for game.exe, 6GB for assets?)
4TFlops RNDA2.0 DX12U clocked at 1.2GHz
512GB SSD NVME
10GB vram (2GB for OS?, 2GB for game.exe, 6GB for assets?)
4TFlops RNDA2.0 DX12U clocked at 1.2GHz
512GB SSD NVME
5 Cores @ 2Ghz
8GB vram (2GB for OS?, 2GB for game.exe, 4GB for assets?)
4.2TFlops GCN4 clocked at 0.9Ghz
1000GB 5400RPM shitty drive
8GB vram (2GB for OS?, 2GB for game.exe, 4GB for assets?)
4.2TFlops GCN4 clocked at 0.9Ghz
1000GB 5400RPM shitty drive
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XSS apparently uses PS5, XSX assets, PS4 pro not
4K60 is more taxing than 1080p60 .. no matter if there´s sweat or not in the PS4 Pro version.
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skneogaf
Member
I don't believe the few frame drops on the camera angle from behind the backboard are gpu related especially as the xbox series S is running at 1080p.
The ps4pro is running at 4k and its gpu isn't twice as powerful is it? I understand that the series S has next generation skin specular but a quarter of the resolution?
Both xbox series consoles are severely under performing to where they should be so I can't imagine them not improving as right now owners of both should be unhappy with them.
The ps4pro is running at 4k and its gpu isn't twice as powerful is it? I understand that the series S has next generation skin specular but a quarter of the resolution?
Both xbox series consoles are severely under performing to where they should be so I can't imagine them not improving as right now owners of both should be unhappy with them.
HAL-01
Member
It’s so strange how Xbox people boast about that bright memory game as if it’s not an ultra low budget unreal engine asset flip that got mediocre reviews
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I said the CPU doesn't have to do anything and can downclock which means with Smart Shift the GPU can clock much higher. Maybe that's the reason why the PS5 is performing so well. The XSX has fixed clocks as we all know.
THEAP99
Banned
It's the gamepass stank
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Instead of going "hurr durr muh score", maybe read the thread. I know you won't because you're not actually interested in discussion.
The issue with teraflops was IMO the same issue with Ghz for cpu's.
That doesnt explain that until recently, IIRC, Intel always had better compatibility for instruction sets, if I'm using the right terminology. SSE, SSE2, etc.
That could and did effect game performance in the past vs AMD.
Remember how Pentium was pushing almost and up to 5Ghz, then dual core, Core2Duo came out? Those that remember should remember how many were like what??? Its a slower cpu!!!
Or like how a quad core always came up short in gaming vs a single core cpu until the last 4-5 years?
Sometimes, more doesnt always mean better.
I think its time for some to finally realize this.
That doesnt explain that until recently, IIRC, Intel always had better compatibility for instruction sets, if I'm using the right terminology. SSE, SSE2, etc.
That could and did effect game performance in the past vs AMD.
Remember how Pentium was pushing almost and up to 5Ghz, then dual core, Core2Duo came out? Those that remember should remember how many were like what??? Its a slower cpu!!!
Or like how a quad core always came up short in gaming vs a single core cpu until the last 4-5 years?
Sometimes, more doesnt always mean better.
I think its time for some to finally realize this.
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sircaw
Banned
You should have thought about that before you chucked mud with your Sony winning its first comparison comment today.
Naught naughty
JackMcGunns
Member
v_iHuGi
Banned
1080p30 on SX then LMAO
sircaw
Banned
He's not wrong
yer he's not wrong if your naive and oblivious to what he is trying to do there.
v_iHuGi
Banned
AllBizness
Banned
nkarafo
Member
Gave the 100th like
Zadom
Member
I don’t think something like this should be said in jest.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
That's because it's Bright Memory Infinite and it also hasn't been released yet and has no reviews. They are not the same games.
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Md Ray
Member
Ouya.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Lol, ok, spokker has spoken! A next gen machine that goes toe to toe with the other next gen machine to the point where they are effectively tied is a flop. Something tells me 100% you would not be saying this if xbox was the 10tf machine and the ps5 a 12tf and they were effectively tied, you would be saying its all about the games instead.
Just another reminder - the machines are same price.
Let's put 100 ps5 fans in a room with the 9 supposed games that the ps5 "is far superior on" (i put it in brackets because its bs)
Blind test, series x vs ps5 - i bet they pick the series X version as the "best one" half the time because they can't tell the difference. (Since they are 99.9% identical in output)
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Krisprolls
Banned
Leyasu
Banned
Whats up with the console warring?
Both can't be right here. Either the game is maxing the console or not no?
Hitting the performance ceiling would be running at the maximum.. Or is that wrong? I am having a hard time understanding.
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sircaw
Banned
You don't think its bad that the worlds most powerful 12flop console is being smacked around by a 10.3 machine, whos developer also spent a massive chunk of their cash on making a next-gen controller and a much faster ssd?>
Please tell you can see these points?
kebaldo
Member
JLB
Banned
Not comparables architectures, like PS5 and Xbox Series.
Malcolm9
Member
Sure Jan.
Die Namek Ability
Member
And thats a farcry from the minimum 20% difference narrative Xbox fanboys have been screaming about for the last 8 months. The whole Xbox community needs to just conced that they were wrong and these systems are close as fuck, as they should be based on the BoM.
