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FALCON_KICK
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DF is taking too much time for the analysis of Watch Dogs: Legion, Observer: System Redux, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold war, comparing the next-gen versions of PS5 and Xbox Series X.
Is there a genuine reason for this or some sort of embargo through some exclusive insider deal?
DF only made an analysis for WD:Legion comparing XBox Series X with PC.
Is there a genuine reason for this or some sort of embargo through some exclusive insider deal?
DF only made an analysis for WD:Legion comparing XBox Series X with PC.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
We don't really know. But if some of those analysis include last and next gen versions we are talking about comparisons between 7 platforms (XOne, XOneX, PS4, PS4 Pro, XSX, XSX and PS5) so I kinda understand why AC, COD or WD can take so damn long.
But if those comparisons end up being just between XSX and PS5 then hmmmmmm...
we'll just have to wait and see.
Duchess
Member
Yep. Although I think they're more interested in bringing people to Game Pass, whether that be PC or Xbox (or whatever). With MS themselves embracing the service industry more and more, they simply don't view Sony and Nintendo as the competition any more. They're more interested in fighting Stadia, Luna, Apple Arcade, and whatever Tencent are cooking up.
Dibils2k
Member
ZywyPL
Banned
They're just a few guys with a limited time, that's why. Anyone can post a direct side-by-side comparisons, without any comment, any insight, nothing, exactly like we see all over YT, but if you want something more, it needs more time.
FALCON_KICK
Member
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Rudius
Member
VGTech is like the old Digital foundry, just side by side videos with information and graphs overlay. That takes less work, but is less appealing.The crazy thing is, DF made a video saying they were preparing their tools for next gen...Richard said it explicitly. He said their current tools would not be able to measure up because of the advanced resolutions and framerates the new consoles would bring....They also wanted to better capture issues in graphics and be able to pixel count better and more reliably due to all the reconstruction techniques and point out the differences or anomalies.....
Then this gen comes up and they cant capture at 120fps, they have no been able to do a next gen video spelling out the differences in lighting and texture work between the consoles in AC Valhalla and COD, farless framerate...They are losing data north right and center as if it's their first rodeo. They are still not giving us like for like analyses and video runs...Vgtech who is a one man show has been giving screen tear data, mins, max framerates, percentages and all, straight from his video, no guesswork like DF does. His pixel counts are always bonafide too......So it appears that MS was not the only outlet who spoke a good game relative to readiness for launch and has fallen short. It seems their subsidiary DF has been caught with their panties down and their tools unprepared for next gen, just the same...
Bittermuch, if the gap was as big as you say and XBOX was so much more powerful, in this unoptimized port, it would have the better framerates through pure grunt and brute force.....
Yet, please continue the disingenuous BC 120hz spiel. Just remember that most BC games are running a higher resolution (1080P) and overall better performance over the Series X versions.....Pretty much every BC game you run on PS5 is a locked 60fps...But I know what's really going on, you really don't want these companies to patch the games you mentioned, because if they patch 120Hz in these older BC games....You know who takes pole position in that mode.......Nice try bitter.....
I'd say your expectations are "too damn high".......but we shall see...They said the AC video is dropping soonish...
I'd say I'm miffed by this...
All before this gen started...
MS has the best software, the best tools, GDK will be a gamechanger....
Now, MS tools are behind, it's not ready......Yet what happened to all these articles by journalists that were wild-fired on forums talking about MS is way ahead of Sony in preparation for next gen? Too many things don't add up for this "tools excuse"......
Snowdonhoffen
Member
So it should be around 140,000 in 6 days. But I'm not surprised by the big difference, it's Japan after all.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Xbox customers in Japan are mostly US military service personnel, at least that was the case this gen.
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Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Yeah when we are in Iwakuni, or at Kadena Air Base, they are loaded with XBoxes. It’s a great place to by them, they usually have an overstock on release days.
Dodkrake
Banned
The only head to head they made was that of DMC5, and it showed the Xbox just barely edging the PS5 in 3 out of 4 modes. Now that games are consistently performing better on the PS5, their capture cards have a collective failure. Demonic shit, I tell you.
FranXico
Member
They're hard at work debugging the source of the torn frames on the Xbox versions, by hand if need be. Above and beyond the call of duty, I say.
Maybe once those games are patched, the hardware issues will be solved.
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ToadMan
Member
Sure it’s possible. Yet another nail in the coffin of DFs integrity.
“Please hold back your analysis of our games until we’ve finished them“
They’re taking people’s money now - they should be ready to be judged now.
ToadMan
Member
Dirt is AWOL too isn’t it? Seems like that H2H would’ve been easiest for them since half of it was done before launch.
Shio
Member
I think this is the 'Surprise' they were talking about, they didn't expect PS5 to perform same/better than the XSX.
TheAmazingSpiderMan
Member
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Bothers me, why it looks like shit and on the top of that why it's so fucking noisy...
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Went to investigate:We don't really know. But if some of those analysis include last and next gen versions we are talking about comparisons between 7 platforms (XOne, XOneX, PS4, PS4 Pro, XSX, XSX and PS5) so I kinda understand why AC, COD or WD can take so damn long.
But if those comparisons end up being just between XSX and PS5 then hmmmmmm...
BattleScar
Member
Genius marketing tbh.
TheAssist
Member
Oh shit (pardon my french). Saturn just send me an email saying my PS5 is on its way :O. Thats after sending me a mail last week that they probably wont be able to do so due to high demand (though to be fair, I ordered that thing like an hour after the Sony stream back in July).
Anyway, that was some unexpected good news. Yay me.
Anyway, that was some unexpected good news. Yay me.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Alex Bugaga couting those teared frames by hand, one by one, trying to buy time and praying for a solution to the clouds upstairs.
Can't wait for him to go full PC fanboy exclusive like pre X1X, you just know he about to ditch Xbox. Above all he's a Playstation hater, and if Xbox ain't kicking its ass then it ain't good enough for him.
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: GOLLUM IMPROVES A LOT WITH PS5 HARDWARE
According to Husges, the DualSense controller’s advanced haptic feedback allows players to feel how Gollum interacts with the game world.
The game takes advantage of the PS5’s ray-tracing feature, which allows everyone to experience Middle-earth in an imaginative new way. This also improves the potential of the game’s stealth gameplay.
sirusgaming.com
According to Husges, the DualSense controller’s advanced haptic feedback allows players to feel how Gollum interacts with the game world.
The game takes advantage of the PS5’s ray-tracing feature, which allows everyone to experience Middle-earth in an imaginative new way. This also improves the potential of the game’s stealth gameplay.
The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Improves a Lot with PS5 Hardware
Daedalic Entertainment shares the different features that the PlayStation 5 offers with video game The Lord of the Rings: Gollum.
sirusgaming.com
Thirty7ven
Banned
Already setting it up as "both bad". Where was that energy during the X1X/PS4 pro times.
DrDamn
Member
I will have the same starting line up. After that I am going to dip into the PS+ Collection to play stuff I missed first and then look at either ACV or Immortals Fenyx Rising.
Dodkrake
Banned
- Failed capture card
- Counting screen tearing by hand
- Slow internet
HAL-01
Member
It’s a capture from a video, it’s the last gen version, and also character rendering isn’t this games forte
danielJackson
Banned
My order have been "ready for packing&delivery" for 2 weeks
Im pretty sure it taked 2-3 days to get to my city& store for pickup.
Incompetent cunts never send stuff for launch early enough.. but only place I got order trought for launch
So, RIP ps5 tomorrow unless miracle happens
Im pretty sure it taked 2-3 days to get to my city& store for pickup.
Incompetent cunts never send stuff for launch early enough.. but only place I got order trought for launch
So, RIP ps5 tomorrow unless miracle happens
Dibils2k
Member
you people really dont understand how youtube works
firstly it takes fucking ages to upload to YouTube and secobdly, the more important/obvious thing, there is a thing called schedule uploading... they arent gonna upload as soon as its ready at 3am... its about releasing at times people will actually see them, early views are very important to the algorithm
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yeah but I watched it and it has really that type of look like ME1, tons of film grain and I don't like that.
HAL-01
Member
The video likely just didn’t process in time and they missed their publishing window, so they moved it back a day
They’re also having trouble getting YouTube to process the 4K version of their latest videos, and Alex may want to make sure it’s ready before hitting publish
ethomaz
Banned
They video didn’t process in 24 hours? It is very hard to believe.
HAL-01
Member
Their demon’s souls review has been up for more than a day and 4K version hasn’t shown up yet, they’re likely trying to avoid that
ethomaz
Banned
You should ask what is wrong with DF.
ethomaz
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
Madchiken
Banned
You can do it better , don try shaming tactics , git gud.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
You can’t sell that you can’t distribute
PS5’s launch is already completely sold out in Japan, Sony claims | VGC
Platform holder warns there will be no stock available to purchase on launch day in the region…
www.videogameschronicle.com
thelastword
Banned
So when MS says it has to be best on their platform, does this mean they will gimp the PS5 version?Uh oh. Some fanboys celebrated a bit too early?
Microsoft wants future Bethesda games to be ‘first or best’ on Xbox, says CFO | VGC
Plus exec says it’s not planning to pull all Bethesda content from rival platforms…
TL/DR: Microsoft wants to make the most money possible
So many faceoffs on the table.......It's the first launch I've seen so little from them, they are probably irate that PS5 is performing so well, after they've been parroting a "most powahful xbox for so long"....
Yet I think, they are just gearing up the "excuses and this will fix the series X version" spiels.....Or they are waiting till the devs patch the series X up, so they can say, we've read so many false conclusions out there and just as we thought "the xbox series x was patched to offer better performance, but they won't show where the sacrifices in visuals was made if that happens.....They will say, the games are like for like...
As it stands, right now at DF, it should be like this "Phuck man, how do we spin this in favor of XBOX?"
Let's blame the API, "that won't work Alex", you saw how your 'it's the lighting video backfired" Scrapped
Damn man that tough, "what you got John", Dude I've had enough of these biased leanings, people are catching up to us, it's hurting our credibility..
Richard: Think of the team John, remember how you got this job, MS helps put food on this here table...in the here and now. Sony barely wanted to give us a console or fly us to ND studios. ND never gave us a script to read to sound like we knew what we we're talking about "like the Coalition did for Gears"....Best know where your bread is buttered Micho...
Alex: I got it Richard San, I've got an idea...."we will say that both consoles are having issues with XBOX a bit moreso due to the API. We will say the VRS and the DRS systems are not working properly and that this affects XBOX more, since PS5 does not have VRS just as it doesn't have any hardware raytracing, right? I mean, it's a lie, but desperate times man. We've bent the truth before and many X fans have lapped it up.. We should be good though Richard right?
Alex: Man I keep on editing this video, these eagled ears Sony fans are so good, they'll call me out in seconds, Wahhhhhh!, I can't win.....Richard I can't do it...I just can't finish this video, they will eat us alive...Too many holes in this plot...
Thing about that is, you compromise your integrity and factual data, when you try to spin things to suit your own bias or to curb console war reactions on either side....In essence, they have biases that are constantly on display from their words in the videos.....Then at other times, when the console they least prefer is doing better, the language and enthusiasm in their speech is less enthusiastic......We hear lots of terms like "like for like 900p vs 1080 with better effects on 1080p", as opposed "a world away for DRS resolutions with worse framerates or that resolution is so crisp on XBOX".....In the PS4 days, it was "does resolution really matter?"
The bigger point is, with stats, you can't go wrong.....I've seen many videos where DF did not even properly interpret their own stats, giving wrong, minimums when right in their video it says otherwise.....Their opinions have been wrong countless times too. What effects are being used, calling better framerate on the wrong versions. Isolating a part of gameplay to say one console wins when it is discovered that overall the other consoles wins. Doing that with none like for like gaming comparisons to say "Hey you see the PS4 is struggling here" when they never test the same explosion on the XBOX...Saying many games were CPU starved on PS3, when it was shown very early on from 4A, that there is more CPU performance on the PS4 over the XBONE due to it's OS and API....In essence, lots of wrong takes, that could easily be disputed and thwarted......That is where the problem comes, because some people take their word as gospel even if what they are saying in their comparisons isn't true, they run with it because DF's bias meshes with theirs....
If Vgtech had to resort to opinions and bias pieces, he would be wrong many times too, but he just gives the stats, which can't ever be disputed....unlike DF....I do agree we need voiceovers in spelling out the differences in visuals, like the better lighting and textures in AC Valhalla PS5, but if you have a bias, you will never say that when it doesn't favor your bias, but will quickly have an eagled eye if these better visuals were reversed.....We are not blind we see and many of us have seen the differences between the versions clear as day, so we are always baffled when the tech experts can't see it mostly when PS has a lead...
As for ATD, the best person we have for that is NXGAMER.....Vgtech is stats, NXGAMER is eye for detail, it's how he made his name. The thing is with him, he doesn't need scripts from The Coalition to pretend to know what's going on in a game, he works in the industry and speaks the language, he is bonafide.....So a company will give you a PDF and say we are doing voxel gi, post perfect raytracing, you will run with that and say "hey these guys are doing voxel gi post perfect raytracing", when in reality, it might just be a fancy way of heightening a basic graphical process in the RT pipeline.....Here's the difference between a man who knows what going on vs one just parroting PDF PR. He'll show you the discrepancies in video, in realtime of that post perfect raytracing spiel you see in the PDF vs other methods or even it's limits over other methods....That's NXgamer for you, he knows his stuff and is not bullshotted by fancy words.....Let's see how it works and fares in realtime over other techniques, that's what a true technical mind pushes or is engaged in for debate....
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