Ar¢tos
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Good for you!
Now you only need to learn not to shit on what other people like and to be less aggressive (seriously, your post history is really angry most of the time).
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Ryan McCaffrey on Unlocked: There is nothing here (XSX launch lineup) that says I need to spend $500 dollars on XSX. Launch games
Now you only need to learn not to shit on what other people like and to be less aggressive (seriously, your post history is really angry most of the time).
bender
What time is it?
Endless Fluff
Banned
Destruction AllStars isn't a 1st party exclusive.
Both lineups are overall shit, Sony's is slightly less worse but that doesn't make it "one of the greatest" (lol) as someone else said either. People ITT unironically saying that they're buying a next gen console for a gearbox game is the height of blind fanboyism. Like wtf, no one would give two shits about GodFall if it weren't a next-gen launch title. The same for Destruction AllStars.
The guy OP quotes is also full of shit. I bet my left nut that he's bought a One X and Pro at launch, $400 and $500 consoles with literally no games... and he will buy a Series X for the same reason he's bought them. For the same reason I've pre-ordered a PS5: to play current games at higher fidelity or better frame rates.
As if there has ever been a legitimate reason to buy a new console at launch, the best time to buy one has always been 1-2 years after launch.
ZywyPL
Banned
I actually started to wonder, does McCaffrey even play video games to begin with?
Well then, considering Spencer said they'll keep supporting XB1 for the next year or two, and Ryan said they'll support PS4 for even 3-4 years, you'll have to wait quite a bit with your next-gen purchase....
Well then, considering Spencer said they'll keep supporting XB1 for the next year or two, and Ryan said they'll support PS4 for even 3-4 years, you'll have to wait quite a bit with your next-gen purchase....
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kretos
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bender
What time is it?
Yoboman
Member
Yeah it is
Mr. PlayStation
Member
I remember getting the PS4 at launch and all I played were multiplatform games and they all great on it. Similarly Series X will have a great third party support. Don't see why people wouldn't want to spend the money to get XSX, people are quite tired of playing on current gen and want to move on to next gen!
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Deleted member 775630
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No this isn't a problem at all, because you can't know this before launch. Both of them have their own marketing deals, and no one is showing the same game running on both systems, due to these marketing rights. So no, there isn't a problem at all. It's just that the specs of the XSX are better than the specs of the PS5, which is why 3rd party games will run better on it.
Dibils2k
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bender
What time is it?
DrDamn
Member
Ok, who else spent the first 20 seconds trying to work out who was speaking? I thought they were off screen
Chittagong
Gold Member
I have both an Series X and Series S on preorder, but I must say that it is absolutely shocking that they couldn't motivate themselves to scrape together practically any games for the launch, or even launch window.
We have come a far way from the excitement of having PGR3, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Condemned and the rest all lined up for a new next generation experience in 2005:
So why am I getting the consoles at launch?
Well, for home, I believe the X will be the best way to play Cyberpunk 2077, Cold War and Dark Souls 3 this winter. And for travel, since I will be 4 months on the road, the S will allow me to continue playing those games abroad.
We have come a far way from the excitement of having PGR3, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Condemned and the rest all lined up for a new next generation experience in 2005:
So why am I getting the consoles at launch?
Well, for home, I believe the X will be the best way to play Cyberpunk 2077, Cold War and Dark Souls 3 this winter. And for travel, since I will be 4 months on the road, the S will allow me to continue playing those games abroad.
Endless Fluff
Banned
No it isn't. Lucid Games is the main developer.
Yoboman
Member
Published by Sony
Endless Fluff
Banned
You are moving goalposts.
The point was that Destruction AllStars is not a 1st Party exclusive, as the picture is saying. It's a 3rd Party exclusive, for now.
FranXico
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SaucyJack
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Yoboman
Member
If its published by the platform holder it is a first party game by definition
IlGialloMondadori
Member
This is hilarious.
FranXico
Member
Who owns the IP, and who is publishing.
DonJimbo
Member
When I see others shit on my opinion I will shit too
I will wait I dont care the world doesn't get under
Bryank75
Banned
Why are there so many games that are out already on the Xbox side? Is there an actual reason to relist them as exclusive launch games?
I honestly do not understand....
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bender
What time is it?
I have both an Series X and Series S on preorder, but I must say that it is absolutely shocking that they couldn't motivate themselves to scrape together practically any games for the launch, or even launch window.
We have come a far way from the excitement of having PGR3, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Condemned and the rest all lined up for a new next generation experience in 2005:
So why am I getting the consoles at launch?
Well, for home, I believe the X will be the best way to play Cyberpunk 2077, Cold War and Dark Souls 3 this winter. And for travel, since I will be 4 months on the road, the S will allow me to continue playing those games abroad.
-LSD
-PC Port
-Hobo punching simulator
-Sports!
-Lazy cross generation port
-Not bad
-1000 Achievement Points
-Sports!
-Sports! /w sweat
-Cross generation with performance issues galore
-Wall guy
-Now I'm sad because you made me think of Bizarre Creations
-PC Port
-Sports!
-The downward spiral of a once great series.
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FranXico
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The third party exclusives list is even worse. Lots of ancient (as old as 2014) games, and the PS list is missing Returnal, anong others.
Knitted Knight
Banned
Lol what? It's a first party exclusive, like Sackboy's Big Adventure. Sony owns the IP.
Ar¢tos
Member
and forever (at least regarding consoles).
The game box has the PS studios logo and the IP belongs to Sony.
DonJimbo
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Kokoloko85
Member
Playstation has A great 2020of excluives and planned for 2021.
Ghost of Tshushima
TLOU2
Demon Souls
Spiderman MM
Sackboy
Ratchet and Clank
Horizon 2
Gran Turismo 7
Final Fantasy 16
God of War R (supposedly)
and more
You cant compare them
Sony missed the ball on BC, thats it
IlGialloMondadori
Member
The hardware is great, but it's definitely a bit weird.
I thought they'd launch with some serious bangers that blew everyone's mind, and instead, there is literally nothing. It's really strange. They put all their hopes on 343, and came up empty.
DonJimbo
Member
Ben Afflecks face is so goldenBut I'll just end up playing more Overwatch and Rocket League.
Dibils2k
Member
this is the thing, when you are planning a Halo as launch title you probably dont want to put more games alongside it, Halo delay literally killed their launch
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Endless Fluff
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The definition has always been that 1st party means in-house developer. It has nothing to do with IP ownership or who publishes the game.
Video game developer - Wikipedia
If anything this would be a 2nd party (which is new to me) according to the "definition".
/edit this definition is apparently wrong.
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alabtrosMyster
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The list MS gives as "launch games" contains old (like 2014) games... Their list of 1st party "launch" exclusives contains old games as well.
MS is redefining both exclusive and launch to a point where they mean nothing, anyone in the industry who sees this and does not laugh them out of the room doesn't get it.
King oddball with raytracing enabled! only on Series X (screenshot from the PS Vita version).
MS is redefining both exclusive and launch to a point where they mean nothing, anyone in the industry who sees this and does not laugh them out of the room doesn't get it.
King oddball with raytracing enabled! only on Series X (screenshot from the PS Vita version).
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FunkMiller
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You can say that all you like, but until I see evidence of it, I'm not taking it for granted. And I'd imagine that I'm not the only one.
Yoboman
Member
No the definition has always been a platform holder game (first party) or not (3rd party). Sometimes they work with in-house developers, sometimes they work with independent developers. Games are funded and published by the publisher, IP rights are owned by the publisher.Is this the definition nowadays?
The definition has always been that 1st party means in-house developer. It has nothing to do with IP ownership or who publishes the game.
Video game developer - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
If anything this would be a 2nd party (which is new to me) according to the definition.
Second party is nonsense:
Regardless, All Stars is definitely NOT a third party game
Endless Fluff
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Alright, I stand corrected.No the definition has always been a platform holder game (first party) or not (3rd party). Sometimes they work with in-house developers, sometimes they work with independent developers. Games are funded and published by the publisher, IP rights are owned by the publisher.
Second party is nonsense:
Regardless, All Stars is definitely NOT a third party game
mejin
Member
he probably cried later.
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Deleted member 775630
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Sure, I get that. Purely from a theoretical PoV there's no reason why the PS5 would be the better system. Microsoft just completely out-engineered them this time.
Black_Stride
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If by one of the best you mean.
Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS5.
Yeah sure.
Because a bunch of crossgen games and a remake isnt exactly a lineup id be praising.
- Assassin's Creed: Valhalla
- Astro's Playroom
- Demon's Souls Remake
- Destruction All Stars
- Dirt 5
- DmC 5: Special Edition
- Godfall
- Madden NFL 21
- Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
- Sackboy: A Big Adventure
- Watch Dogs: Legion
Now go look up the PS2 lineup.
Note. That the only real system seller in that line up is Demon Souls, for the people that arent into Souls games.....well.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It's probably the strongest PS launch line-up that makes the difference with Xbox' so stark.
freefornow
Gold Member
Yeah, well, uhm....Bathesda!
FranXico
Member
Added the poll. I'm not voting, as launch lineup was not a personal point of contention: my interest was on the Series S as a BC machine, and the issue there is that available storage is likely going to end up being about half that of the PS5 (which already is terrible at around 660GB).FranXico add a poll, lets find out if this launch lineup really is worth $500
TriSuit666
Banned
Early adopters always get the shaft up their backsides. This time is no different, for both Sony and Microsoft fanbois.
I always look at a console after a year of life, when the next solid iteration of the hardware is on the horizon and/or a price-drop. Mostly likely a price-drop first.
Also, Godfall ain't a PS5 exclusive, shitheads.
I always look at a console after a year of life, when the next solid iteration of the hardware is on the horizon and/or a price-drop. Mostly likely a price-drop first.
Also, Godfall ain't a PS5 exclusive, shitheads.
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Tulipanzo
Member
15% better theoretical TFLOP (while having a lower GPU clock), same RAM/CPU and an SSD half as fast is damn slim pickings.
It's basically "theoretically a little better on paper at some tasks maybe", which is bearing out right now: every single game announced performs the same on PS5 and Series X.
Some games have features earlier just because Sony's SDK is better, like DMCVse which is missing RT at launch on SeX.
Hell, no XBox game will feature RT at launch. The earliest will be just Medium in december, and Legion's update.
It's actually why having such a poor launch is a problem, because there's no performance argument to push XBox.
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