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PS5 No enhanced patches?

Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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How disappointing.

So as it stands it looks like hardly any games will be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;

- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.

I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).

Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.

This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding its backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us it was all in hand and not to be worried... 😉

Update: Edited slightly to better reflect it appears only a very small handful of games will be individually enhanced.
 
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geordiemp

geordiemp

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Hostile_18 said:
How disappointing.

So as it stands games will not be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;

- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.

I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).

Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.

This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding ts backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... 😉
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Is Xbox also not the same, it is limited by the capped frame rate or capped reolution. For example, Sekiro 1800p on XSX


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Ps5 will also be 1800p if that was the resolution on pro. Only games we can guarantee a patch is first party ftom MS or Sony

What am I missing ?

Drama is quite funny, should I say this is why I said we should be concerned about Microsofts silence regarding ts backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... LOL
 
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M1chl

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Don't worry, you still can be charge for 4k/60 last gen games and I think you are going to be, so only thing which should cry in advance is your wallet : )

geordiemp said:
Is Xbox also not the same, it is limited by the capped frame rate or capped reolution. For example, Sekiro 1800p on XSX


PSKphK0.png


Ps5 will also be 1800p if that was the resolution on pro. Only games we can guarantee a patch is first party ftom MS or Sony

What am I missing ?

Drama is quite funny, should I say this is why I said we should be concerned about Microsofts silence regarding ts backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... LOL
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He is probably reffering to enhanced X360 titles, which ran on higher resolution on One X.
 
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Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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Unknown? said:
Who's to say they won't? It's up to the devs.
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Isn't it curious that the blog makes no reference to enhanced game patches at all just brute force enhancement. I expected a list of about 30-50 games that had been enhanced on a per game basis.
 
ethomaz

ethomaz

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There will be enhanced patches but that makes it a PS5 game... not BC.

Hostile_18 said:
Isn't it curious that the blog makes no reference to enhanced game patches at all just brute force enhancement. I expected a list of about 30-50 games that had been enhanced on a per game basis.
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Because it is not BC.

If you do a patch to make a PS4 game run on PS5 the game run native on PS5... not via BC modes.
 
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jakinov

jakinov

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It's not worth it for companies to and patch old games they already sold so that they can look a tiny bit prettier or smoother. I don't even think Xbox is offering patches of the old games. I'm pretty sure they just releasing the game on new platform and giving you a free upgade.
 
Nymphae

Nymphae

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Hostile_18 said:
Sure but it could of been so much more. Between the crazy UK price of games and this it's not as great as it could of been.
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Still makes me laugh to hear someone say fuck this new console I was excited for because it doesn't upgrade last gen's games enough for me.

I like that BC lets me not have to plug in and use a second console for backlog/straggler games, but ultimately I'm looking forward to the future here.
 
geordiemp

geordiemp

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M1chl said:
Don't worry, you still can be charge for 4k/60 last gen games and I think you are going to be, so only thing which should cry in advance is your wallet : )


He is probably reffering to enhanced X360 titles, which ran on higher resolution on One X.
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No idea what he is on about, ps5 will play ps4 games same as XSX will play Xb1 games at resolution and frame rate set by the developer unless they pach it for both systems.

Ps5 does not play 360 or ps3 games, so no idea what you mean.
 
M1chl

M1chl

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geordiemp said:
No idea what he is on about, ps5 will play ps4 games same as XSX will play Xb1 games at resolution and frame rate set by the developer unless they pach it for both systems.

Ps5 does not play 360 or ps3 games, so no idea what you mean.
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I think is more about that Xbox consoles in this gen could play selected games on higher resolution, AF and maybe something more due to emulation hack. But the were far in between. However something like Splinter Cell Conviction in 4K was super nice, tho.
 
Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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How much work would it be to output the games at his resolution/better textures on a much more powerful machine? Especially where a pc version of said game exists. It's a massive missed opportunity. The improvements will be so minimal for the vast majority of PS4 games.
 
dotnotbot

dotnotbot

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Calverz said:
If they were gonna do it, im pretty sure they would hve put it on the blog today.
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Hostile_18 said:
Isn't it curious that the blog makes no reference to enhanced game patches at all just brute force enhancement.
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Ok, so yet again, if something wasn't said, we assume it isn't happening and the rant about it creating new pointless threads. Great. Maybe wait for some confirmation?
 
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Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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Nymphae said:
Still makes me laugh to hear someone say fuck this new console I was excited for because it doesn't upgrade last gen's games enough for me.

I like that BC lets me not have to plug in and use a second console for backlog/straggler games, but ultimately I'm looking forward to the future here.
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Yeah I think this is where I might be better suited for PC. You get a piece of hardware and all your games look/play much better. I understand just been excited for future games though.
 
GrayFoxPL

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These threads are so predictable.

Few hours ago:

GrayFoxPL said:
I suspect "certain" ppl will still shit on this BC because "Playable" does not mean: "4K 60fps". Neither does PS5 Boost mode guarantee anything.

PS4 games will probably look and run more or less like on PS4. I expect glitches and freezes too, because I don't believe they played through every game from beginning to end.
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The Cockatrice

The Cockatrice

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They'll be patched at some point if they are even patchable at this point so I get your point. It feels meh. I guess this pretty much seals the deal for me as well, at launch anyway. No reason to rush into buying one right now. Plenty of games in November to play on PC, DS and Spiderman can wait, especially for a price drop. See ya next year PS5.
 
diffusionx

diffusionx

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If you go back to 2016 and 2017 when the enhanced consoles were made, there were not a ton of enhanced patches, mostly titles released that year. And since then, devs have released more games with uncapped framerates and dynamic resolutions which will be enhanced on the new consoles without the devs doing a single thing.

Bottom line, I don't expect a lot of games to get enhanced patches, much less than we saw with the Pro or One X. A years old game like Uncharted 4, I would say no chance whatsoever.
 
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Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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dotnotbot said:
Ok, so yet again, if something wasn't said, we assume it isn't happening and the rant about it creating new pointless threads. Great. Maybe wait for some confirmation?
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A blog post about BC that completely disregards enhanced patches? At best its incompetence at worst there is none. Were a month out.
 
FunkMiller

FunkMiller

Member
Hostile_18 said:
How disappointing.

So as it stands games will not be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;

- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.

I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).

Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.

This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding its backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... 😉
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How are you arriving at this? The new articles don't state that this is the case. It says that 'selected games' will benefit from boost mode.
 
yurinka

yurinka

Member
Hostile_18 said:
How disappointing.

So as it stands games will not be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;

- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.

I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).

Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.

This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding its backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... 😉
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Same happens in Series X: backwards compatible games will see loading times reduced (the common sense says loading times will be way shorter in PS5 compared to Series X), and only the ones with dynamic resolutions will see their resolution increased, and only the ones with unlocked framerate will experience a noticiable fps increases (those with a FPS cap will get more stable at this limit and will experience way less and way smaller fps drops).

Like in Series X, many 1st party and 3rd party games are cross-gen, and in all the 1st party one and the vast majority of 3rd parties, if you own their current gen version they will give you the next gen version for free (in fact there are more multis with free upgrade on PS5 than in Series X). This next gen version will feature higher resolution, framerate, better visuals like, etc. depending on the game.

Sony just mentioned that only 10 PS4 games that won't work on PS5, out o a total of -until now- 4336 PS4 games and 348 PSVR games. As we know, the Series X sent to the journalists only runs 961 XBO games in the Series X BC, being some of them 360 and OG Xbox games, and they were told that thanks to upcoming updates 'hundreds of XBO games would be supported in the coming days'.

Even in the case your PS5 isn't connected to internet to download the PS4 of your account from the store, they allow you to copy PS4 games to a PS5 directly via wifi or external storage. All accesories like PSVR, speial controllers like arcade sticks, wheels or hardsets will work.

FunkMiller said:
How are you arriving at this? The new articles don't state that this is the case. It says that 'selected games' will benefit from boost mode.
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Just to add something: this 'select games will benefit fro boost mode' very likely means that obviously games with a locked resolution and that already had steady locked framerate won't get any benefit from the benefit other than shorter loading times, just like in Series X. Unless the games are crossgen and get a next gen version, obviously.

Orky said:
no. Many people believed that GoT and TLOU II will get an enhanced patch.
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They didn't announce if they patched or will patch the games to add dynamic resolution or uncapped framerate (I don't know if they already have them), and didn't announce a PS5 version of these games. They may do it later in the road, who knows.
 
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Skifi28

Skifi28

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Hostile_18 said:
How much work would it be to output the games at his resolution/better textures on a much more powerful machine? Especially where a pc version of said game exists. It's a massive missed opportunity. The improvements will be so minimal for the vast majority of PS4 games.
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It's not much work, but it's has to be done by the developers, it can't be done on a system level. Some will, some won't. It remains to be seen which is which. You are just yelling at clouds at this point, the most important thing was being able to play your entire library.
 
Hostile_18

Hostile_18

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Skifi28 said:
It's not much work, but it's has to be done by the developers, it can't be done on a system level. Some will, some won't. It remains to be seen which is which. You are just yelling at clouds at this point, the most important thing was being able to play your entire library.
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The 360 x enhanced games wernt done with the original developers as far as I'm aware. They look great at 4k.
 
Bojanglez

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
Have all publishers come out with a joint statement or something saying that they won't be patching games to take advantage in any way?
 
MoreJRPG

MoreJRPG

Suffers from extreme PDS
geordiemp said:
Is Xbox also not the same, it is limited by the capped frame rate or capped reolution. For example, Sekiro 1800p on XSX


PSKphK0.png


Ps5 will also be 1800p if that was the resolution on pro. Only games we can guarantee a patch is first party ftom MS or Sony

What am I missing ?

Drama is quite funny, should I say this is why I said we should be concerned about Microsofts silence regarding ts backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried... LOL
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How do PS3 games perform on PS5?
 
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