mikefrails
Banned
“With PC releases, we hope to share the exciting new experiences from Bethesda with the rest of the world...”
Pulling content is one way of looking at it. Making their platform more appealing and worth investing in another.As long as they are making consoles, they are rivals. As long as they are pulling content from PS, they show that they consider themselves as rivals.
Well MLB the show exists...When Sony releases 1st party games on Xbox I’m sure MS will do the same with PlayStation.
Well MLB the show exists...
Their platform is on pc to. You warriors need to get with the times.Exclusives are what the gaming is about.
That was always the case and it will be the case in the future.
MS purchasing studios is really great because it add value to their platform but with PC too that is not that big impact anymore... it could do wonder for their Gamepass innitiative.
That doesn't affect PlayStation brand.... it won't have some game but they will have others and exclusives will be still the key item for the PS5 success.
Pulling content is one way of looking at it. Making their platform more appealing and worth investing in another.
Timed exclusive is not sustainable
I mean wouldn't it make more sense to look at it as MS bringing games to PS5 to support MS.I really don't know how to respond to people that think that microsoft just spend $7.5 billion, right at the start of a new generation, in order to support ps5...
I mean wouldn't it make more sense to look at it as MS bringing games to PS5 to support MS.
Well MLB the show exists...
You are not looking at it from Microsoft’s perspective or in terms of their plans. They want/need a constant stream of content. They are investing now for the future.What are you talking about? Its way more sustainable than buying studios and publishers. Its a one-off single sunken-cost arrangement that can be quickly analysed after the fact and future plans adjusted accordingly.
Buying studios/publishers is a bigger initial buy-in, then the full cost of development and maintaining these subsidiaries payroll and infrastructure costs going forward. Its a commitment that makes further spending inevitable and the financial outcome uncertain.
Nice job of avoiding the question.Technically true but the same could be said for the numbers put out there for mobile or for Steam. The point being is that the pool is large, fat and very profitable. And the content that typically comes out of Bethesda is tailor made for that traditional gamer.
Half truth. That's a reason, but not the only reason. Publishers will still take chances by making next-gen only games (Demon Souls et al), without a single oficial PS5 sold. Sales projections are a thing. Which is also why Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo are coming to PS5 (exclusively too for a time I might add).
For a Playstation or Nintendo only console owner that's simply not true. Not even for a Stadia only user (however rare they may be). You're trying to somehow associate phone ownership (assuming universal attach rate for the specific users discussed, within Android as its OS (and not on Apple), good quality phone, proper internet data plan etc) with some technical wiggle room that clears Phil out of his very concise and clear statement. It's a nice try but way too many caveats to make it work. Not to mention the fact that traditional gaming on phones sucks ass. So much for that choice.
He can't force me to do anything but it's obvious - Nintendo, PlayStation, Stadia. I don't think it would be necessary but I guess some people do need the heads up. It's quite obvious what platforms Phil was discussing when talking about exclusivity and exclusive games as head of Xbox. It wasn't Android.
Fallout 4 made over *corrected*, not entirely sure. Even something like Fallout shelter makes 200k$ per month. With numbers like that its nit gonna be cheap to buy.How much did they spend on Ninja Theory? The more you spend, the bigger the pressure to recoup your investment.
I can't help but feel like MS overpaid when they put down 7.5 billion for Zenimax. Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 were a disappointment and a disaster respectively, and most of the other games they published sold below expectations despite good reviews, and that's with them being available on PS4, a console with twice the install base of Xbox. If they keep new games exclusive they will not be cheaper to develop, but their audience and number of potential buyers will be much smaller due to Sony being out of the picture. I can see them releasing games like TES on PS5 eventually (although probably with a significant delay) just to make their money back.
that was the old model. the new model is gamepass. why would you just want a gimped one off payment(sony,retailers get a big cut of it), when you can have a 100% profit recurring payment that pays more in the long run.people are tripping if they don't think the next Fallout/Skyrim won't be pimped out to every device that can play them
hardware isn't really where the money is made. it's in software. in fact i think they lose money on hardware. so all this wishing and hoping for Xbox exclusives is console war silliness. there is no financial reason for them to gate off potential sales.
they want to make the most money, those games will be multiplat.
They sold over 50m consoles. That's nothing to run away from, regardless of their competition. And with their games selling millions on Steam, the increased profits have been more than enough to show the CEO of the biggest company in the world that gaming is worth it enough to drop 7.5b. This isn't hard to see.You expect Xbox to continue with hardware?
Where are those numbers from? Fallout 4 seems to have sold around 13.5 million copies across all platforms, suggesting that each buyer paid ~$150 on average. Even if you include all the money from DLC and the Creation Club, that still seems extremely high, especially considering how quickly the game dropped in price.Fallout 4 made over 2 billion dollars and still going. Even something like Fallout shelter makes 200k$ per month. With numbers like that its nit gonna be cheap to buy.
You might be right i looked it up but didnt pay much attention to the source. Seems off to me. Although fortune mag claims they made over 750$ mil on day one alone so either way its numbers like those that tell u Bethesda was gonna be expensiveWhere are those numbers from? Fallout 4 seems to have sold around 13.5 million copies across all platforms, suggesting that each buyer paid ~$150 on average. Even if you include all the money from DLC and the Creation Club, that still seems extremely high, especially considering how quickly the game dropped in price.
Exclusives are what the gaming is about.
That was always the case and it will be the case in the future.
I doubt it tbh. They didn't pay 7.5B to keep the status quo. Sony crushed them with exclusives. Why give their fans even more incentive to skip your own hardware?
Besides, Sony has a great 2021 lineup. We know NOTHING about MS lineup. Starfield could be a 2021 title. You really believe they are gonna release on PS5 when they themselves barely have anything confirmed?
Phil says what you want to hear even if it a big lie.Agree. But it's nice to see the 180's and all the hoop jumps regarding Phil's past statements. Even more so whether people genuinily believe that Phil will stick to his words and that there is some depth below the surfarce. Some have even gone as far as to claim his words meant something else enterily in light of recent events. It's good to see varied opinions on the matter either way.
Fallout 4 sold 12mil copies in its first 24 hours -https://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/Where are those numbers from? Fallout 4 seems to have sold around 13.5 million copies across all platforms, suggesting that each buyer paid ~$150 on average. Even if you include all the money from DLC and the Creation Club, that still seems extremely high, especially considering how quickly the game dropped in price.
But it makes total sense.My favourite is when @Bryank75 calls Microsoft "Spiteful" for their recent actions.
Imagine being a grown as man and thinking this aquisition was spiteful haha.
I hope future games go to PS5 same day. In saying that I can understand if Microsoft don't want to.