zaitsu
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Im the customer i dont want sony to put any money in BC. And I think more people are like me so...
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Snowdonhoffen
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I find it funny how some Xbox fans say Jason is a Sony shill as if he was just a random dude creating rumors when he's one of the most (if not the most) reputable gaming journalist out there.There are some funny gems in that discord too like...
Jason 1 x 0 Klobrille
Killer Sakoman
Member
Sony is a business, they have the right to demand more dollars for their products.
It goes both way my friend. Trust me, if the feature is worth, Sony will invest in it. I am glad they are focused on bringing all those good games. It is not easy to keep this quality rolling. There is alot of investment, huge financial risk, crunch, technical difficluties, stress, anxiety.....
They have to sacrifice something to succeed in something else that is more important....
EliteSmurf
Member
Maybe 825,000 consoles produced so far?
Are these numbers lower than expected?
EDIT: Found out its made under a new pilot program from MS https://query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.com/cms/api/am/binary/RE4d74y#page=40
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Sure AC1 was repetitive but the parkour was groundbreaking it felt so fluid ans easy compared to what was available at the time ( except POP maybe but POP was designed around it and wasn't as simple).
At that time I was a kid and remember advising my brother to buy God of war (the first one)even though I saw like 3 mins of gameplay...
It was the first time my brother took my advice on buying a game and he kept telling me that the game better be good.He put the game in the ps2 and we played until the game was over ...
Great memories.
Entroyp
Member
Fuck old games. I can play those on my old consoles.
If they’re not remaking the game from the ground up spend resources on new stuff.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
It depend when they started, if they are at full production and if all consoles are carbon neutrally produced.I don't think we can extrapolate if that's a lot or not enough from there.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Jason is very reliable source of information. When he said Microsoft is way behind in XsX development, he was right. Microsoft tried to catch him by that fake December announcement, they basically were trying to pretend it is the opposite and they are ready, but as usual, it was all Phil's smoke and mirrors.
Even Kratos knew that since 2018, he told Phil : Booyyyy , You are not ready.
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THE:MILKMAN
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No. Just 825K carbon neutral ones they committed to making last year. They have made more I'm sure.
StarskySilverz
Member
I’m not a kid. And if it’s a feature that does not cost me extra or even if it does I have the right to ask for greater.
It seems like fanboys don’t want extra features though even if they were offered to them.
For some reason fanboys also believe that consoles will be functional forever. As time passes there are less and less functional old game consoles. I care about the preservation of these games.
Dodkrake
Banned
I'm sure you are posting just for the girl
The only reason to buy the Series X would have been if the girl came with the package. Pun intended.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Why are you on attack mode?
Relax my friend, it's not worth it. From the way you talk, I suspect you were old enough in early 2000s to buy PS2 games.
Mahavastu
Member
It is Sony: everything is a secret, until it isn't anymore.
PS1-3 BC is important for a lot of people, and those are usually hard core fans with a Playstation history, are multipliers and influence several others to buy a new PlayStation too. So yes, it is important.
We all expect and hope, that the almighty Sony gods will bless us with a new event in the next 2 weeks. If they want to talk about BC, they will most likely do it here. If they don't, that's an answer too, but one we don't want to hear.
Exactly Sony has mature emulators for the PS1 and ps2 there is no excuse for those not to come except to try and sell a cloud service and remasters.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Yep, and he was right about the Demons Souls remake and about Horizon coming to PC, and he was the first to say he heard that MS was considering releasing Halo Infinite in pieces, he was almost confirming the PS5 event in early June, etc. I remember back in January he was randomly talking on twitter about how he wouldn't be surprised if Sony skipped E3 again and "coincidentally" hours later it was announced Sony would be skipping E3, and hours before the Road to PS5 he was saying that the PS Tflops warriors would be disappointed and all this is from this year alone, the dude can't seem to miss.
Dibils2k
Member
the best part of BC on xbox for me is how it improves resolution/fps on some games too, i think that would be amazing for games like resistance, i would literally replay them with higher resolution
but i cant see Sony putting resources to it, it doesnt make financial sense, MS only did it to get some brownie points as they needed it
StarskySilverz
Member
Yes, I own hundreds of PS2 games still.Why are you on attack mode?
From the way you talk, I suspect you were old enough in early 2000s to buy PS2 games.
I just don’t understand why someone would prefer to buy remasters over being able to pop in an original disc at a discounted price.
Would you rather spend $60 on Last of Us Remastered a year after the original came out or be able to use your old disc? It’s just common sense to me.
Some people just act that if the PS5 has BC then the R&D cost will cause Naughty Dogs next game to be half the length...
kotaku - ps5-will-only-be-backward-compatible-with-ps4-games-according-to-ubisoft
They've removed that info now
I know
which proves its true
Eh... Removing it is a weird thing to do. Now it implies PS5 "is" BC.
so far, ps5 is a large, loud, and hot bag of shite
In fact, back in Feb, Ubisoft stated it was BC too (but we assumed they meant PS4 only)
Sony was contacted for info and they responded with they arent going to respond, then the into got took down. The leaks on the chips also say only 2 variable architecture speeds (ps4 and ps5
Exactly. So it's weird to remove the info if it's actually true. Thus, hopefully, the machine is BC with PS1/2/3
lmao
It isnt BC
it isnt even bc with ps4 properly
Also, the ps1 used disc wobble for copy protection which the drive would need to be specifically designed to pickup
the discs on ps2 (cd and dvd) used a wider spread on the discs too, which again requires special drives
And they have a discless ps5
IF BC, it would be running via an emu only on the new OS, which would be re-releases at a cost and no BC
Dunno about all that. Just saying Ubisoft are being cagey. Even their original support statement could be read as though the PS5 supports PS1/2/3/4 BC but ubisoft only support PS4 etc. Otherwise, if it's known PS5 is only BC with PS4, such a statement would be weird for Ubisoft to say.
The dream of bc is dead on ps5 mate
Let it go
... In the first place. The fact they now removed it, is even more suspect.
They removed because Sony asked them to ask they are getting flack
They want people to preorder the thing before they say its wank
and those preorders are due to go live within next 2 weeks
To be clear: I only expect PS4 BC. Anything else in any aspect (such as all games on PSNow being downloadable) would be a bonus.
limited ps4 bc
they already confirmed that
But difference is that Sony still bring the current gen games. Outside of PS4 or any other BC, there'll still be actual PS5 games to play. XB's big push for launch, without Halo, is old BC games and GamePass filler.
You mean sony are bringing out ps4 games with particle effects and ray tracing and blocking them from running on a ps4
baring the loading times, ratchet and clank would easily run on a ps4 from the polygon count and textures
plus it only runs at 30fps
RNC have an optional 60fps mode. A fair few PS5 games give that option.
60fps at less than 1080p
Miles Morales uses the exact same engine as ps4 spiderman, but with post processing effects and ray tracing, and that code would again run happily on a ps4
Dunno about that. I tend to come down on side of framerate anyway, so I'm happy for the user choice.
hahahahahahahaha
xb1x has had that option in their games from launch
The option for 4k/30 vs 1080p/60 is last gen stuff
Most Xbox One X Enhanced games offer two modes: Quality or Performance. Quality would offer full 4K, while Performance offers 60 FPS or at least unlocked frame rates.
Allowing for 3tflops running raytracing, the ps5 has the equivalant of 6tflops of graphical performance for rendering/framerates
Which is almost identical to the xb1x
On the other hand XB/multiplatform games for next generation consoles The Medium, AC Valhalla, Watch Dogs: Legion, Yakuza: Like a Dragon (not even 4K), Scarlet Nexus all have no 60fps mode.
Probably not the drum you wanna beat-on to champion XB.
on xb1 no
But so far ps4 pro has ZERO native 4k games even at 30 fps
ps4 pro randers much lower and upscales and still cant get 60fps
render*
Give me a call when XB can do something like TLOU2 or Ghosts of Tushima graphics, and those are on 1TF launch PS4's.
Developer Bloober Team has confirmed that its upcoming horror title The Medium will be 30fps on Xbox Series X. In response to a commenter on the studio's official YouTube channel, it was explained that the game will run at 4K/30fps for cinematic reasons, as well as its 'Dual-Reality' gameplay: "The game is 4K/30fps
tlou2? Really? That game is MASSIVELY below parr of an xb1x
4k/30
NOT 1080p 30fps which is most ps4
tlou2 runs are 1440p on ps4 pro with variable frame rates
It also has small environments and does not have an amazing polygon count
(TLOU2 pictures)
They are far from impressive graphics
r2rd hugely outdid them, with high polygon count, better lighting, and environments that werr upto 500x larger with draw distance
Narrative choices and pacing issues aside, the actual gameplay of TLOU2 is still great, and the game looks visually impressive. RnC PS5 looks great too, better in the Aug footage than the June footage due to more RTX and stuff applied to it.
I can't say the same for, say, Halo: Craig.
Why we talking about graphics now? We were talking about BC and framerates before.
(rdr2, forza 7/8 pics)
graphical, that blows RNC out of the water by a long way
Some are forza 8, some are just forza 7 running on a sx with the added effects
And sony went for variable speeds of cpu/gpu, making BC bloody difficult to run and smoothly
how do you know they're on XBSX? did the trailer state on it that it was captured on a XBSX?
It was shown running on the console
Whicb is more than ps5 has done yet. All of theirs so far have run from a dev kit
mate... you're drunk. there's been LOADS of PS5 stuff shown ''captured running on a PS5''. Not a PC, not a PS5 devkit (although there was one game that made that distinction clear by stating devkit). It's the XBSX that has hardly shown anything running on the console itself.
They've removed that info now
I know
which proves its true
Eh... Removing it is a weird thing to do. Now it implies PS5 "is" BC.
so far, ps5 is a large, loud, and hot bag of shite
In fact, back in Feb, Ubisoft stated it was BC too (but we assumed they meant PS4 only)
Sony was contacted for info and they responded with they arent going to respond, then the into got took down. The leaks on the chips also say only 2 variable architecture speeds (ps4 and ps5
Exactly. So it's weird to remove the info if it's actually true. Thus, hopefully, the machine is BC with PS1/2/3
lmao
It isnt BC
it isnt even bc with ps4 properly
Also, the ps1 used disc wobble for copy protection which the drive would need to be specifically designed to pickup
the discs on ps2 (cd and dvd) used a wider spread on the discs too, which again requires special drives
And they have a discless ps5
IF BC, it would be running via an emu only on the new OS, which would be re-releases at a cost and no BC
Dunno about all that. Just saying Ubisoft are being cagey. Even their original support statement could be read as though the PS5 supports PS1/2/3/4 BC but ubisoft only support PS4 etc. Otherwise, if it's known PS5 is only BC with PS4, such a statement would be weird for Ubisoft to say.
The dream of bc is dead on ps5 mate
Let it go
... In the first place. The fact they now removed it, is even more suspect.
They removed because Sony asked them to ask they are getting flack
They want people to preorder the thing before they say its wank
and those preorders are due to go live within next 2 weeks
To be clear: I only expect PS4 BC. Anything else in any aspect (such as all games on PSNow being downloadable) would be a bonus.
limited ps4 bc
they already confirmed that
But difference is that Sony still bring the current gen games. Outside of PS4 or any other BC, there'll still be actual PS5 games to play. XB's big push for launch, without Halo, is old BC games and GamePass filler.
You mean sony are bringing out ps4 games with particle effects and ray tracing and blocking them from running on a ps4
baring the loading times, ratchet and clank would easily run on a ps4 from the polygon count and textures
plus it only runs at 30fps
RNC have an optional 60fps mode. A fair few PS5 games give that option.
60fps at less than 1080p
Miles Morales uses the exact same engine as ps4 spiderman, but with post processing effects and ray tracing, and that code would again run happily on a ps4
Dunno about that. I tend to come down on side of framerate anyway, so I'm happy for the user choice.
hahahahahahahaha
xb1x has had that option in their games from launch
The option for 4k/30 vs 1080p/60 is last gen stuff
Most Xbox One X Enhanced games offer two modes: Quality or Performance. Quality would offer full 4K, while Performance offers 60 FPS or at least unlocked frame rates.
Allowing for 3tflops running raytracing, the ps5 has the equivalant of 6tflops of graphical performance for rendering/framerates
Which is almost identical to the xb1x
On the other hand XB/multiplatform games for next generation consoles The Medium, AC Valhalla, Watch Dogs: Legion, Yakuza: Like a Dragon (not even 4K), Scarlet Nexus all have no 60fps mode.
Probably not the drum you wanna beat-on to champion XB.
on xb1 no
But so far ps4 pro has ZERO native 4k games even at 30 fps
ps4 pro randers much lower and upscales and still cant get 60fps
render*
Give me a call when XB can do something like TLOU2 or Ghosts of Tushima graphics, and those are on 1TF launch PS4's.
Developer Bloober Team has confirmed that its upcoming horror title The Medium will be 30fps on Xbox Series X. In response to a commenter on the studio's official YouTube channel, it was explained that the game will run at 4K/30fps for cinematic reasons, as well as its 'Dual-Reality' gameplay: "The game is 4K/30fps
tlou2? Really? That game is MASSIVELY below parr of an xb1x
4k/30
NOT 1080p 30fps which is most ps4
tlou2 runs are 1440p on ps4 pro with variable frame rates
It also has small environments and does not have an amazing polygon count
(TLOU2 pictures)
They are far from impressive graphics
r2rd hugely outdid them, with high polygon count, better lighting, and environments that werr upto 500x larger with draw distance
Narrative choices and pacing issues aside, the actual gameplay of TLOU2 is still great, and the game looks visually impressive. RnC PS5 looks great too, better in the Aug footage than the June footage due to more RTX and stuff applied to it.
I can't say the same for, say, Halo: Craig.
Why we talking about graphics now? We were talking about BC and framerates before.
(rdr2, forza 7/8 pics)
graphical, that blows RNC out of the water by a long way
Some are forza 8, some are just forza 7 running on a sx with the added effects
And sony went for variable speeds of cpu/gpu, making BC bloody difficult to run and smoothly
how do you know they're on XBSX? did the trailer state on it that it was captured on a XBSX?
It was shown running on the console
Whicb is more than ps5 has done yet. All of theirs so far have run from a dev kit
mate... you're drunk. there's been LOADS of PS5 stuff shown ''captured running on a PS5''. Not a PC, not a PS5 devkit (although there was one game that made that distinction clear by stating devkit). It's the XBSX that has hardly shown anything running on the console itself.
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Mr Moose
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Yeah, if PSOne (and so on) games aren't a higher resolution on the PS5 there would be no point in it.
Jim Ryan wasn't lying, they do look like shit, I had rose-coloured glasses on until I got a PSOne mini thing.
sircaw
Banned
He seems lost, probably watching dealer and Eastwood.
Just show him the 75% poll number for people buying ps5 and be done with it.
Or invite him around on the 9th so you guys can watch the show together.
He might murder you, just a warning, you know how some of these fanatic xbox fans can get.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Remasters benefitted them in funding their PS4 games specially Naughty Dog because TLOU remastered sold double its PS3 version.
This time they don't have excuses to remaster and resell PS4 games on PS5, so they opted for PC ports and relay on PSNow subscriptions for older games. Thus, I agree, Sony does not like BC.
Mr Moose
Member
They need to put down that crack pipe.
No native 4k games on the Pro? Even at 30fps? Wat?
Only as powerful as a One X?
Snowdonhoffen
Member
He seems to watch the videos from that awesome techtuber Dee Batch. The legends say he once built a PC and gain the knowledge of a hardware architect and a software developer.
Killer Sakoman
Member
MasterCornholio
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HawarMiran
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Some are forza 8, some are just forza 7 running on a sx with the added effects
how do you know they're on XBSX? did the trailer state on it that it was captured on a XBSX?
It was shown running on the console
Whicb is more than ps5 has done yet. All of theirs so far have run from a dev kit
mate... you're drunk. there's been LOADS of PS5 stuff shown ''captured running on a PS5''. Not a PC, not a PS5 devkit (although there was one game that made that distinction clear by stating devkit).
It's the XBSX that has hardly shown anything running on the console itself.
nope. Every ps5 has said running on ps5 "hardware"
Which has turned out everytime to mean the devkit
Actual in hand xbsx running stuff, and its months old
(The June vs August RnC trailer screenshots)
the 2 trailer has a fog effect, less lighting, and far less cars and others things reducing the polygon count
So far, neither have just put a console on a desk and shown any games running for their new games
Sony keep saying ps5 hardware, and ms use a pc (which is their devkit)
And with each trailer released, Sony is slowly downgrading their games graphically
I'm not sure why there's fog and stuff on the RnC later footage. Different effects, but there's certainly more reflections on the floor, and more effects on the purple portals.
Reflections yes, but raytracing count is down, polygons are down, draw distance is down, lighting down, and added fog effects to blur shit
With the exception of the reflections, the rest of the graphics has been downgraded by around 10-15%
if it was running on a finished actual ps5, then why would that be needed?
how do you know they're on XBSX? did the trailer state on it that it was captured on a XBSX?
It was shown running on the console
Whicb is more than ps5 has done yet. All of theirs so far have run from a dev kit
mate... you're drunk. there's been LOADS of PS5 stuff shown ''captured running on a PS5''. Not a PC, not a PS5 devkit (although there was one game that made that distinction clear by stating devkit).
It's the XBSX that has hardly shown anything running on the console itself.
nope. Every ps5 has said running on ps5 "hardware"
Which has turned out everytime to mean the devkit
Actual in hand xbsx running stuff, and its months old
(The June vs August RnC trailer screenshots)
the 2 trailer has a fog effect, less lighting, and far less cars and others things reducing the polygon count
So far, neither have just put a console on a desk and shown any games running for their new games
Sony keep saying ps5 hardware, and ms use a pc (which is their devkit)
And with each trailer released, Sony is slowly downgrading their games graphically
I'm not sure why there's fog and stuff on the RnC later footage. Different effects, but there's certainly more reflections on the floor, and more effects on the purple portals.
Reflections yes, but raytracing count is down, polygons are down, draw distance is down, lighting down, and added fog effects to blur shit
With the exception of the reflections, the rest of the graphics has been downgraded by around 10-15%
if it was running on a finished actual ps5, then why would that be needed?
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
It’s not, you know. Snyder filmed The Flash’s running sequences, I believe.
jimbojim
Banned
Yep. New games please.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
HawarMiran
Banned
I agree. I don't know a single person who was like "Oh damn I feel the sudden urge to play game X from 2004 on my PS4". Would be a nice addition to give some people the option to, but to be honest it is a sub-par feature and not a selling point for new technology.
Gamerguy84
Member
I cant wait to what they have in mind for PSNOW as Im already a sub.
Mahavastu
Member
- older Consoles tend to break sooner or later, making playing games with them impossible.
- older consoles very often have analog outputs, which look plain horrible on most TVs. A lot of TVs do not have analog inputs anymore.
- older consoles output a low resolution output, which look horrible on current large TVs (large compared to the TVs 20 years ago)
- the number of inputs is limited on TVs, so one might would have to switch cables to go to another console.
- with the processor power of the PS5 it would be possible to improve the image quality a lot, bringing fresh live to old classics.
- it would be an easy way to make PS Now more attractive. Streaming is bad most of the times, but if it is possible to download most major games from PS1-PS4 and play them upscaled to 4k with HDR and better framerates, it is quite an argument.
- the emulation is mostly software, maybe with minor hardware support for PS3. This means that once the work is done it does not increase the price per console. It just makes not much sense not to provide BC.
- Microsoft revealed their software BC in 2015, so Sony had over 5 years to see the success of BC on XBox and prepare the BC for the PS5.
Example video: see how today emulators can improve older games. Left side original PS2, right side PS2 Emulation on PC upscaled to nearly 4k. While the left side flickers and looks ugly, the right side looks much better than I expected a PS2 game to look. There are other videos showing similar improvements for other games.
Dave_at_Home
Member
Is your friend legally retarded? Why isn't he locked up? Is he a dumb kid? Oh well. Some people wish to be willfully ignorant till the bitter end. Once he finds out you're right and everything he knows is bullshit, he'll just gloss over it like it never happened to save face.
Please elaborate on your gif... if there's anything I'm replying back to him which is factually wrong, I don't want to be out there spreading misinformation.
annd back to the show
I'm not sure why there's fog and stuff on the RnC later footage. Different effects, but there's certainly more reflections on the floor, and more effects on the purple portals.
Reflections yes, but raytracing count is down, polygons are down, draw distance is down, lighting down, and added fog effects to blur shit
With the exception of the reflections, the rest of the graphics has been downgraded by around 10-15%
if it was running on a finished actual ps5, then why would that be needed?
even worse is the famboys claiming it somehow looks better?!?! I mean what the hell, how does fogging everything show an improvement?
what is shows is sony lying once again
I mean, did you ever compare TLOU2 trailer to the actual game that came out?
the reflections deffinately look better. i believe the fur on rachet has been cleaned-up too. i'm not all technically minded for all that stuff, it could be an artistic reason to add fog etc. I'd have to look around and see if there's an answer.
as i recall, TLOU2 looked better in release than in the trailers. There were talks of upgrades. and i don't just mean to the size of Abbey's arms, which was monsterous when compared side-by-side the before and after.
What? The trailer looked a lot alot better than the game
The design was better in release
but the effects, lighting, polygons, everything was hugely downgraded on release
wait what do you mean the TLOU design was better in release? Abby was comically masculine. The trailer footage of her had a lot more realistic-looking arms for a female in a post apocalyptic setting.
and i'm not sure you're correct there. but i'd have to go digging in old discussion threads to be sure.
HAL-01
Member
Whoever that guy is they're amazing, i mean they can count the individual number of rays and total world polygons from a quick glance! wow
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
He also works at a sperm bank. He’s actually able to count the little swimmers with more accuracy than the professional equipment.
Imtjnotu
Member
By taste or?
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
They have pro equipment that can taste things and count by taste as well? Holy ^$@&’!!
Insane Metal
Member
Yup he's a cum sommelier.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
So my hunch is that we should be getting some sort of announcement within the next few days, most likely tomorrow since we know Sony loves Tuesdays, this is IF their next event is indeed next week on the 9th.
That being said, Nvidia have their event tomorrow which they'll be revealing their Ampere lineup, AMD will follow up as well revealing the RDNA 2 lineup. This might mean that both Sony and Microsoft may be free from NDA's and reveal more of the internal workings of their consoles as well as the APU (for the PS5).
That being said, Nvidia have their event tomorrow which they'll be revealing their Ampere lineup, AMD will follow up as well revealing the RDNA 2 lineup. This might mean that both Sony and Microsoft may be free from NDA's and reveal more of the internal workings of their consoles as well as the APU (for the PS5).
Moridianae
Member
*Very* interesting that that little blurb about PS1/2/3 BC was so suddenly removed. I wonder why it happened in such a way...Sony ninjas?
"Don't go ninjin nobody that don't need ninjin"
Hiphop gamer with those anime sweat beads right now.
"Don't go ninjin nobody that don't need ninjin"
Hiphop gamer with those anime sweat beads right now.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
“Ahhh, 1996, a very good year”!
OK OK, ... this is really going to derail to far if it keeps going.
Please elaborate on your gif... if there's anything I'm replying back to him which is factually wrong, I don't want to be out there spreading misinformation.
annd back to the show
I'm not sure why there's fog and stuff on the RnC later footage. Different effects, but there's certainly more reflections on the floor, and more effects on the purple portals.
Reflections yes, but raytracing count is down, polygons are down, draw distance is down, lighting down, and added fog effects to blur shit
With the exception of the reflections, the rest of the graphics has been downgraded by around 10-15%
if it was running on a finished actual ps5, then why would that be needed?
even worse is the famboys claiming it somehow looks better?!?! I mean what the hell, how does fogging everything show an improvement?
what is shows is sony lying once again
I mean, did you ever compare TLOU2 trailer to the actual game that came out?
the reflections deffinately look better. i believe the fur on rachet has been cleaned-up too. i'm not all technically minded for all that stuff, it could be an artistic reason to add fog etc. I'd have to look around and see if there's an answer.
as i recall, TLOU2 looked better in release than in the trailers. There were talks of upgrades. and i don't just mean to the size of Abbey's arms, which was monsterous when compared side-by-side the before and after.
What? The trailer looked a lot alot better than the game
The design was better in release
but the effects, lighting, polygons, everything was hugely downgraded on release
wait what do you mean the TLOU design was better in release? Abby was comically masculine. The trailer footage of her had a lot more realistic-looking arms for a female in a post apocalyptic setting.
and i'm not sure you're correct there. but i'd have to go digging in old discussion threads to be sure.
There was a shit 2013 trailer
Then a 2017 one that was amazing
the release fell inbetween the 2
And I just showed Lucy those rnc side by sides and asked her which was better
She said the june was by far, and she wasnt part of this convo
you've lost me. pretty sure there wasn't a 2013 tlou2 tailer, or a 2013 RNC Rift Apart trailer
sorry, I was looking at the 2013 release of tou1
Oh, well yes, TLOU2 certainly looks better than TLOU1 in terms of sheer graphics.
I just, in my opinion, don't like the visual changes to making Abbey even more masculine for the retail release of the game, and the questionable motive of making Dina/all women in the game purposefully more ugly than their real life motion capture counterparts. Ellie is a whole other problem. I think they could have made her look more like TLOU1 Ellie overall, and I think the comparison between TLOU1 Ellie and ''Flashback to TLOU1 Scene'' TLOU2 Ellie is complete nightmare fuel. They don't even look like the same person.
Sorry.... what was the point you were making there about TLOU2?
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MasterCornholio
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
It's either like the "Far Cry 6 won't run at 4K on PS5" situation or they just posted the info before Sony did.
Insane Metal
Member
Why was the other thread closed?
Anyway
Anyway
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