Stiflers Mom
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Hopefully they will have that amazing furry game in their line up as well, or they won't beat Sony with their mind blowing launch offerings.
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Microsoft says Xbox Series X will have ‘the largest launch line-up for any console ever’ | VGC
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Tulipanzo
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Blinx?
Seriously though, the Sony event was incredibly well received, downplaying it because of one game is very petty.
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eastwood333
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Probably just counting all the BC titles.
Stiflers Mom
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Well, that was not my impression, but whatever keeps you afloat, mate... : D
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eastwood333
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"Incredibly received"? How are you evaluating this? Views does not equal satisfaction. I feel a lot of people were underwhelmed by the graphics at the sony event.
Neolombax
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She's asian?
DrScissorsMD
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That's what I mean though, even we don't know. I'd be inclined to think Xbox will have more at launch just based on them having less recent output leading up to next gen, so they've "saved" more for launch.
Tulipanzo
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Your tone makes it sound as if you're not a huge outlier in this scenario.
To compare, I felt that most of the games at May's Inside XBox were neat, but I understand the way they were showcased (ie. too little gameplay to form opinion on relatively unknown projects) was the reason for the backlash.
I liked the Sony event, but even if I didn't, I'd be aware that a lot of the projects were highly anticipated, and that the number of games releasing in the first year was also unexpected.
One final example, if today Infinite is shown with solid gameplay, I'd still consider that a positive for the event, regardless of the fact I'm pretty cold on Halo myself.
Explosive Zombie
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You're definitely an objective poster on such an issue.
Stiflers Mom
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In the end it's your own opinion and how you feel about stuff, off course..
For me the signal to noise ratio was a bit too high in the Sony event.
I was blown away by that water scene in Horizon, though. That looked next gen to me.
Tulipanzo
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"Many people are saying..." works really bad when you have nothing to back that up.
As I explained above, I was warmer on the May event than most, but I'd be lying if I said it was well-received just because I personally liked the games.
The opposite holds true for the PS5 reveal event.
To be clear, you can still say you disliked it, but it's patently wrong to suggest most agree with you.
tryDEATH
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There starting to talk about games, since they got everything else on lock. Its the last untouched bastion that some folks love beating Xbox over the head with. Hopefully with that short falling being addressed and soon disappearing, Xbox will have completed a full turn around leaving nothing to be complained about.
Virex
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As Joseph Staline once said : "Quantity has a quality of it's own."
Thugnificient
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Eh I feel he’s right. It was well-received but "incredibly well-received" seems like an exaggeration when the vast majority of their heavy hitters had no release date. There was also no major surprise except for Demon’ Souls remake but once again, no release date.
Most people I know gave it about a 7/10. Solid but not outstanding.
Maybe it’s just us though.
Tulipanzo
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I highlighted how I specifically put aside my personal feelings when commenting on these events.
It's fine, of course, to have your own opinion, it just falls very flat when you try to expand it to everyone without reasoning to back it up.
Here's another example, always from May's Inside XBox
Personal opinion: I love the Yakuza series, I know a ton about Y7, and I'm massively excited for its western release
Detached assessment: the trailer didn't have a strong hook, and oddly seemed to avoid showing the turn-based combat. It also wasn't clear how it was going to be "Optimized for Series X"
eastwood333
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You know, i'm not going to get into this anymore, it's derailing this thread. Lets keep this about Xbox.
eastwood333
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But sony fanboys are?
Tulipanzo
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This is a step in the right direction, but you're still kind of basing it off nothing.
The "Future of Gaming" has a like-dislike ratio of 12:1 (Road to PS5 and May's Inside XBox have about 50:50 by comparison), and it was the most watched gaming presentation ever, so you'd bet a negative reaction would show.
"People I know" didn't like it is a pretty useless metric; people I know liked it, but I'm obviously not using that as a valid point.
Also, to underline the pointlessness of just using your subjective opinion, we've known about DeS for ages. It was the least surprising thing to show imo, though obviously very hype.
turtlepowa
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No matter what will be shown today, they will continue doing so. But who cares? The reality is, that the majority of the gamers are casuals and don't give a shit about exclusive games. Only core gamers + fanboys do and some of those are the noisy troublemakers that want to make you believe that EVERY gamer in the world buys a console JUST for exclusive games and of course that the competitor's system has no games or only shitty games.
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Explosive Zombie
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I didn't call anyone else objective, I'm just saying you're definitely not.
Dr.Morris79
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Talk talk waffle waffle, just give me an updated Brute force!
...And where is the Live summer sale!
...And where is the Live summer sale!
Tulipanzo
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For the controversial topic of "PS5 event was well liked" we have:
Like-to-dislike ratio of 12:1 + most watched event ever vs "I hear people didn't like it"
I wonder who's making a fanboy argument here...
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Tulipanzo
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I'm curious how they handle it, because it kind of feels like the last major software event MS has. They could be saving some stuff for Lockhart, but I feel that's going more exclusively about hardware.
Aceofspades
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"Lowered Expectations"
I don't think they have to. All they have to do is to show some great games, and when they reveal Lock. they will say "it plays those great games".
Tulipanzo
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I mean, OP thinks this is due to the technicality of 4 generations being nominally available, so... eh?
Plus they say this literally every year, I'd be surprised if any given year wasn't the biggest in XBox history.
KingdomHeartsFan
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I remember when they used the tagline, this is our strongest exclusive lineup for any holiday season ever and it was like tomb Raider timed exclusive, the worst halo game ever and Forza. I was like wtf how is this your strongest exclusive lineup ever.
Tldr: this is PR crap.
Tldr: this is PR crap.
Tulipanzo
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The Lockhart is a much more complicated proposition than that, even if it works as advertised; especially when over 8 months of marketing have been dedicated to the Series X proper.
The One X and SAD being discontinued are already a preventive measure to the inevitable confusion.
FranXico
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To be fair, Sony also does that crap. It's just empty marketing words. People just need to watch the events and decide what they find interesting.
I actually think MS got out of this gen race half way through. Probably spent last 3-4 years regrouping and refocusing. Xbox One X was an amazing piece of kit and I am also sure they spent a lot of time getting their software lined up for the incoming gen. This could just be me, but I am sensing lot more confidence with MS this time.
Anyway. It's only 6.5 hrs away from finding out.
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Tulipanzo
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Yup! You have to dig a little, but the PS4 had "the biggest library in PlayStation history", which, lol no
the_master
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List of video game console launch games
This is an incomplete list of launch games for various video game consoles. Although most launch titles were released synchronously with the system they were released for, some games were released prior to the actual system release: for example, Dragon Quest Monsters was released on the Game Boy...
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I don't see it like that. They are going from: "here's the console, you can play these games" to "here are the games, you can play them on these devices"
Edit: It could backfire of course.
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chilichote
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With XBox, EVERYTHING is always the biggest, the strongest, the most, the powerfullest... I can't hear it anymore.
Talk less, do more, then you don't need to exaggerate.
Talk less, do more, then you don't need to exaggerate.
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Tulipanzo
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I don't see it. X1X wasn't very successful, and was discontinued less than three years from release. Their follow-up is using a very close marketing strategy for some reason. They've shown 0 confidence in Lockhart.
Nothing in their approach to generations or wording seems to suggest they need an especially strong line-up.
Still, I'll guess we'll see if the games are there today at least.
Tulipanzo
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The point is one of those devices is blatantly worse than either of the other two next-gen systems (and in some ways even the X1X), and has got no marketing whatsoever.
I feel than when you, and your competitors, are already selling very popular 1080p systems, that a next-gen offshot at that resolution isn't going to fare well. After all, the more expensive SKUs always sell better at launch.
TimFL
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He probably only compared it to MS consoles (OG Xbox, 360, One) leaving it open for interpretation on purpose.
If you narrow it down to MS consoles only, it‘s not hard to be the „biggest launch“ ever.
Probably also includes BC titles.
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aliadiere25
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Sony won't even begin to touch BC on the same level as Xbox. That much is guaranteed.
ZywyPL
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It's an american company, so obviously everything has to be "the".
thelastword
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BC titles are being propped as launch titles? That is a very desperate stance tbh. New next gen or even cross gen games that you buy for $60 are what's considered launch titles.....That's like saying PS3 launched with the entire PS1 and PS2 library including the 20 launch games....
eastwood333
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I don't give a damn what you find objective to be honest.
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Launch line up. Games being available at launch. Not that hard to understand... They can be proud of their backwards compatibility team, because what they have been doing the past few years has been amazing. Can't wait to see how the HDR by machine learning will work and elevate my older games.
eastwood333
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It may be marketing speech, but it's true. XSX is launching with over 200 games available on gamepass on top of 3 generations of BC that will get even more free enhanced upgrades like HDR, faster load times, native 4k, 60-120fps.
The Bloody-Nine
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What does that constitute, like 5 games? Buying any new console day one isn't very wise. A couple of half assed upgrades of previous gen games, maybe a couple of originals, an indie or 2, then nothing for a year. Better to wait a year until games start to release, prices come down, and any technical flaws have been addressed.