Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
People always feel the need to point at Microsoft, unfortunately.
Yes, the likely explanation is that the PS5 version is way behind because... reasons...
People always feel the need to point at Microsoft, unfortunately.
Ah yes good old Phil Spencer who is against timed exclusives locking up a PlayStation franchise to be timed exclusive to Series X. Like I've always said Phil is full of crap...
After playing the Japanese demo, I 100% support the new approach.Woot woot! I watched some game footage and I'm all on board the RPG in modern Tokyo with larping yakuzas.
Gotcha Phil! Wait this game comes out day one on PS4? So the time in this case is zero. How long did Xbox gamers wait for that Destiny 1 and 2 content? Hmmm maybe this is much ado about nothing...wow... thanks Phil for reminding us how much you actually believed in timed exclusives being anti-consumer.
I don't think we should be calling people questioning the release schedule crazy conspiracy theorists. The game already came out in December of last year. The studio had a whole year to prepare so that it would release along with the PS5. If it won't then the only logical explanation will be that Microsoft paid them for the exclusivity. Not to mention that the series is by far the most popular among Sony fans and it would be a logical move to make them happy first (if money wasn't involved in that decision).
Except a lot of people going and buying their PS5 will be looking at the PS5 games to buy, not the PS4 games. Even though you can play the PS4 version on there it still is kind of a big deal.Gotcha Phil! Wait this game comes out day one on PS4? So the time in this case is zero. How long did Xbox gamers wait for that Destiny 1 and 2 content? Hmmm maybe this is much ado about nothing...
Because being able to say that you are the only platform where you can play the next gen version at this holiday is a big deal. How do you not get that? People aren't going out and looking at what last gen games to buy on their new gen console.Then why would it still be releasing on PS4? Why would Microsoft sign that deal when they are clearly pushing and have publicly stated that they aren't focused on just selling Series X boxes this year due to the economy/covid and then sign a deal for it to not come out on one platform from the competition but is ok with it coming out on the best selling console this generation?
I'm just glad you won't have wait like so many Xbox gamers will have to for all those PS5 timed exclusives. Sony got a much better deal.Except a lot of people going and buying their PS5 will be looking at the PS5 games to buy, not the PS4 games. Even though you can play the PS4 version on there it still is kind of a big deal.
I mean you have to wait if you want to play the better version. I'm personally going to wait b/c why play through it on PS4 when the PS5 version will be better? I don't have time to be playing it twice.I'm just glad you won't have wait like so many Xbox gamers will have to for all those PS5 timed exclusives. Sony got a much better deal.
I don't think we are talking about a week or two here. More than likely the PS5 version won't launch until 2021.The PS5 version coming later could mean that the Xbox Series X launches before it, right?
I don't know, it sounds logic to me
Yakuza 1 and 2 had the difficulty spot on and had they kept it like that it would've gone well with all the additions to the combat since but from Yakuza Kenzan onward they made it too easy. I don't know if hard mode gets it right or just makes it frustrating with too much enemy health.I obtained and used most everything. It still becomes very repetitive and uses a ton of recycled moves, skills and animations from previous Yakuza games.
It didn't help that it was really easy even with the hundred colour health bars the bosses have.
Oh look the Phil Spencer defense squad. It's crystal clear that Phil Spencer made a deal with Sega so that they would be the only one with a next gen version of this at launch. Smart Delivery has nothing to do with it launching later on PS5. This is exactly why the next gen version of Cyberpunk isn't launching until 2021 on BOTH platforms. They could've had Yakuza out on PS5 this year too but Microsoft clearly made a deal. Don't try to dismiss that.
But it's much more believable to you that Sega all the sudden just decided that the fans that are responsible for Yakuza even still being around aren't important and instead they'd focus on a platform that until this year never even had a Yakuza game? Riiiiiiight they totally weren't given a check by Phil for that. Pretty much exactly what I expect out of someone who's probably an Xbox fanboy.
You'll last long here.
You have a choice. Many Xbox only gamers don't have a choice at all so it looks like you are winning. Accept the W. I'll bet there won't be a significant difference anyway since it won't be designed from the bottom up for the PS5's unique architecture.I mean you have to wait if you want to play the better version. I'm personally going to wait b/c why play through it on PS4 when the PS5 version will be better? I don't have time to be playing it twice.
If that was the case I think they would still say Holiday rather than coming later to PS5. I'm pretty sure they know like the rest of us that it's coming in November.I’m wondering if Sega knows the launch date of the series X but not the PS5(Sony might still be unsure when to launch their own console or it’s keeping third party developers on the dark about it)
The PS5 version will probably launch with the PS5.
The only people dismissing the fact that they likely paid for it are Microsoft shills like you. I'm not a fanboy of anyone troll and that isn't why I was banned from there LMAO. One look at your post history shows that you have no place at calling anyone that. Also no one lasts long on Era unless you share their exact mindset over there which I'm not about. That isn't what this thread is about so let's not be going off topic here.Crystal clear? To who, massive Sony fanboys like you who got permanately banned from ResetEra for over 10 console warrior warnings/bans? Why do you think your opinion here holds even the slightest bit of credence? You're crying conspiracy theories that make no sense, in the face of actual facts. Don't try to dismiss that.
I don't think we should be calling people questioning the release schedule crazy conspiracy theorists. The game already came out in December of last year. The studio had a whole year to prepare so that it would release along with the PS5. If it won't then the only logical explanation will be that Microsoft paid them for the exclusivity.
Explain smart delivery. This will be an eye opener.It's hilarious when the usual suspects start fuming and blowing hot air everywhere with conspiracy theories because theycan't understandrefuse to understand that Xbox has something called Smart Delivery, which is not the same thing as the free upgrades some companies are offering for PS5.
Never mind that other games like Crash 4 are doing the same thing (showing XSX versions but no PS5 version because there is one sku for Xbox One AND Series X), nope, let's ignore that. Instead, Phil Spencer personally drove a Brinks truck to Sega for a timed exclusive that is still releasing day one on the competitors platform, and possibly BC on PS5 barring PS5s BC limitations, because reasons. Yep, this makes so much more sense, because SmArT DeLiVeRy iS jUsT a FaNcY nAmE hurrrdurrr
I just don't buy any reasoning for giving special treatment to Xbox folks just because it's a new market for SEGA. There's more to lose here imo if they piss off PlayStation fans from western regions than to gain by catering to the Xbox community. So unless money is involved to make that happen it would be a series of poor decisions.Heh, you do realize that you condemned the idea of conspiracy theories, then turned right around and made a conspiracy theory of your own?
There's no specific word that there's a formal exclusivity contract (and especially no proof of money being involved; it could just be that Japan already has had this for a year and so SEGA prioritized getting the Xbox product line situated, especially since it has been a new market for them.) Everything about next-gen is in flux (compounded by this damned disease,) and none of us have answers to exactly what's going on behind the scenes. It's a fair estimation to say that SEGA and MS are in partnership to make Yakuza LAD splash big on Series X (but then again, it's the most controversial game in the franchise due to its weird -but-cool mechanics, it's not an international blockbuster in the same league as other major franchises MS could have "paid for", and the PlayStation fanbase still knows they'll be getting theirs since it'd be insane for Yakuza to go exclusive to Xbox, so I don't know how it'd be worth making some big deal for some short-term Series X non-Japan times exclusive deal?), but there could be plenty of other valid reasons why things are happening how they are with Like a Dragon.
Because Yakuza is a franchise that has mainly been on PlayStation and those fans can't play the best version on the console they would prefer to this holiday? Idk seems pretty reasonable to me.Not one Yakuza thread exploded before but we all know why this one did...
The fact that there are STILL idiots trying to act like Smart Delivery is something that hasn't been done before is amazing. It is the same thing as Cross-Buy this has been gone over again and again. You buy it on one system and when you load up the other one it's already there tied to your account.Explain smart delivery. This will be an eye opener.
Well its a timed exclusive as it appears. Sony had their fair share too. Nobody made a fuss about this disgusting practise when Sony did itBecause Yakuza is a franchise that has mainly been on PlayStation and those fans can't play the best version on the console they would prefer to this holiday? Idk seems pretty reasonable to me.
There is always a crowd that makes a fuss when whoever does it. Besides what Xbox franchise did Sony take and make a timed exclusive? Yes Deathloop and Ghostwire are timed exclusive but those aren't prior IP's that were associated with Xbox. Sony also doesn't go around saying that they think timed exclusives are anti-consumer and then turn around and sign them. That's my main issue here with Phil Spencer.Well its a timed exclusive as it appears. Sony had their fair share too. Nobody made a fuss about this disgusting practise when Sony did it
Crystal clear? To who, massive Sony fanboys like you who got permanately banned from ResetEra for over 10 console warrior warnings/bans? Why do you think your opinion here holds even the slightest bit of credence? You're crying conspiracy theories that make no sense, in the face of actual facts. Don't try to dismiss that.
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Imagine you calling him a fanboy, lmao. Pot kettle black etc.
He usually doesnt last long wherever he posts lol
The only people dismissing the fact that they likely paid for it are Microsoft shills like you. I'm not a fanboy of anyone troll and that isn't why I was banned from there LMAO. One look at your post history shows that you have no place at calling anyone that. Also no one lasts long on Era unless you share their exact mindset over there which I'm not about. That isn't what this thread is about so let's not be going off topic here.
I just think it's hypocritical of Phil Spencer to talk about timed exclusives being anti-consumer and then going out and doing it. Anyone with a bit of sense knows that Sega didn't decide to market this Yakuza game with Microsoft and release only the Series X version this holiday without being paid for it. When Sony or Microsoft market a third party game that does involve money exchanging hands or did you not know that? You don't just leave out the fanbase that has supported you for over a decade like that without some kind of deal being in place. You can try to downplay it all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.
I am talking about timed-exclusives in general. Its a disgusting practise don’t try to turn it around to make Sony look good. You either talk about the point in general without making one look better or don’t at all. Everyone deserves to play a multi-platform game on their preferred platform with no fuckery.There is always a crowd that makes a fuss when whoever does it. Besides what Xbox franchise did Sony take and make a timed exclusive? Yes Deathloop and Ghostwire are timed exclusive but those aren't prior IP's that were associated with Xbox. Sony also doesn't go around saying that they think timed exclusives are anti-consumer and then turn around and sign them. That's my main issue here with Phil Spencer.
I'll talk about the practice in the manner that I want to. I personally have nothing against it as I get you have to make business moves to help sell your product. Does it suck for gamers on the other platform? Yes it does but that's business. What I have a problem with is when the head of one of those companies makes statements saying he is against it and it's anti-consumer and then goes and does it anyway. If you're going to do it don't say those things. You don't see Sony saying them or I'd be saying the same thing about them.I am talking about timed-exclusives in general. Its a disgusting practise don’t try to turn it around to make Sony look good. You either talk about the point in general without making one look better or don’t at all. Everyone deserves to play a multi-platform game on their preferred platform with no fuckery.
Because it will look and run better? Why is Cyberpunk 2077 getting a PS4 and PS5 version? Or Watch Dogs? Or Assassin's Creed?One thing I dont understand is if the PS5 is going to play PS4 discs then why is a PS5 version even happening? And why would people need a second version?
I just don't buy any reasoning for giving special treatment to Xbox folks just because it's a new market for SEGA. There's more to lose here imo if they piss off PlayStation fans from western regions than to gain by catering to the Xbox community. So unless money is involved to make that happen it would be a series of poor decisions...
But this is already out and exists. It's been out on ps4 in japan for almost a yearBecause it will look and run better? Why is Cyberpunk 2077 getting a PS4 and PS5 version? Or Watch Dogs? Or Assassin's Creed?
Also shouldn't the game natively run better on the ps5 even if it's the ps4 version? Like the pro patches for games ?Because it will look and run better? Why is Cyberpunk 2077 getting a PS4 and PS5 version? Or Watch Dogs? Or Assassin's Creed?
I mean I would think you could say that about any of these third party games really. Why put out a next gen version if you could just patch the last gen version to look better when it's played on the next gen console.Also shouldn't the game natively run better on the ps5 even if it's the ps4 version? Like the pro patches for games ?
Do you have proof this is a paid deal or you guessing?Because being able to say that you are the only platform where you can play the next gen version at this holiday is a big deal. How do you not get that? People aren't going out and looking at what last gen games to buy on their new gen console.
If that was the case I think they would still say Holiday rather than coming later to PS5. I'm pretty sure they know like the rest of us that it's coming in November.
This man backpedals so much on his stances which why I cant believe his bullshit, another exampleCan't wait to finally get my hands on this.
Oh and also.
Xbox boss Phil Spencer says he's "not a fan" of marketing deals with console exclusive content
Unless it's a 12-month timed exclusive. Is what he forgot to say.www.vg247.com
You're full of shit Phil.
If you don’t mind me asking, where did you play the demo and I’m guessing there isn’t an English version of it out?After playing the Japanese demo, I 100% support the new approach.
There was a demo before the game got released in Japan on the Japanese store. Not sure if its still available. Correct, not English version yet. But since the game is coming out on November then I assume we’ll see one around maybe August or September.If you don’t mind me asking, where did you play the demo and I’m guessing there isn’t an English version of it out?