cireza
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Demons Souls.What PS3 remaster are you talking about?
Demons Souls.What PS3 remaster are you talking about?
Demons Souls.
Well that's much more innovative than a remaster indeed.That's a remake.
How many of those games are actually confirmed to be PS5 exclusives?Horizon 2 probably will when it comes out a long with Playgrounds new Fable. That's a comparisons i can't wait to see. Both studios highly talented making similar open world rpgs
I disagree from a graphical perspective and from an impact perspective. Both will be old games by the time Halo Infinite launches. Halo Infinite has been in development with the XSX specs in mind for a long time.
And you're kind of changing the goal post now. Its not MS PR. Its simply being more consumer friendly and it disproves what sony has been stating. Most, if not all the games shown at the sony event could have been mistaken for cross gen, or at the least, downscaled to run on PS4
Well that's much more innovative than a remaster indeed.
higher resolution PS4 game? Lol. You do realize that Miles' entire character model is brand new with skin shaders way ahead of what we had on the PS4? I mean it's all right here.This "We believe in Generations" talk from Sony would hold a lot more weight if the games releasing on PS5 this Holiday didn't just look like higher resolution PS4 games. Hell, the most anticipated upcoming PS5 title is Spiderman: Miles Morales which by all intents and purposes is a glorified expansion that will be approximately 1/3 the content of the first game. Look at the screenshots of the game and tell me it can't be done on PS4.
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You mean two: R&C and HFW.There presentation showed only one game that used their defining new feature (SSD). Glad they believe in generations, wish they would’ve showed Us why though lol
Microsoft is putting out the heavier hitters on launch day so cross gen just makes more sense considering the investment behind Halo. They want that large install base.
I doubt this would stifle in innovation moving forward as games that are releasing this year would have been in development probably before next gen dev kits even went out. I don't see how one game being cross gen affects one that never was going to be. It makes no sense.
Sony loves saying shit like this because it's a good excuse to launch without a big AAA title. They don't want to make that investment with a small install base so we get a budget release Spiderman spin off and then probably a pretty long wait like how the PS4 launched with a mediocre Killzone game and then it was another 4.5 months for a mediocre Infamous game.
I'm not going to say "Yeah Sony is really looking out for their customers" when the reality is their software strategy is just protecting them financially and it's giving their early adopters not a lot to look forward to in that first 6-9 months of the consoles life.
The first paragraph was somewhat believable.Welp, Halo Infinite (cross gen) will finally be unveiled in about 5 days. What will be the excuse if it ends up looking better than any game shown at the sony event?
Also, nothing at the sony event wowed me. Most of them looked like cross gen games that could easily run on a PS4 with downscaling of effects,loading etc.
What a load of horseshit. What exactly are these heavy hitters from Microsoft? Halo is that it? Because all those mid tier studies they bought aren’t going to have triple A games ready for launch.
You don’t know because they haven’t revealed anything yet.
Meanwhile Sony just released two triple A games this year that people can buy for their ps5 if they wish.
We haven’t seen enough of horizon (I think that’s the game you’re implying)You mean two: R&C and HFW.
Here is another comparison of Miles' character model. I have no idea what people are looking at when they say this looks like the PS4 character mode.
What a load of horseshit. What exactly are these heavy hitters from Microsoft? Halo is that it? Because all those mid tier studies they bought aren’t going to have triple A games ready for launch.
You don’t know because they haven’t revealed anything yet.
Meanwhile Sony just released two triple A games this year that people can buy for their ps5 if they wish.
Yes, but Sony doesn't want you to play PS4 games on your PS5...they believe in console generations remember?
Usually all the best skin shaders and textures are reserved for the main character, which in the first game was Peter Parker. Compare PS4 Peter Parker to PS4 Miles and you would hardly believe it's the same game. Now that this new game will focus on Miles as the main character, it's only natural that all the extra processing that made Peter look great will transition over to Miles. Don't be fooled, look for yourself.Here is another comparison of Miles' character model. I have no idea what people are looking at when they say this looks like the PS4 character mode.
Don't need to. GG is known for delivering tech showcases and since it's open-world, it's 100% guaranteed that Horizon 2 will demonstrate the benefits of the PS5 hardware. Even moreso than R&C.We haven’t seen enough of horizon (I think that’s the game you’re implying)
higher resolution PS4 game? Lol. You do realize that Miles' entire character model is brand new with skin shaders way ahead of what we had on the PS4? I mean it's all right here.
higher resolution PS4 game? Lol. You do realize that Miles' entire character model is brand new with skin shaders way ahead of what we had on the PS4? I mean it's all right here.
Because MS had a partnership deal with Capcom to use it as a vehicle for promoting XBO and thought the best way to do that was by keeping it next-gen exclusive.
You guys are acting like money is never a factor in this. That's crazy.
I love it when goalposts start moving. Yes, let's compare a linear game with prerendered cutscenes to an open world game to prove our point when we have actual evidence of the same character in two different generational games.Those skin shaders are years ahead of ... i mean behind RYSE...
All hail the xbox one the king of next next gen graphics ...
a mild improvements in graphics proves the game can be easily scaled.
Now this is just getting silly. No, i am not buying your assertion that main characters look better than side characters in most games. Thats simply not true. Especially in this game since Miles is one of the three playable characters and is in many scenes with Peter, and it never looks like they are from different games.Usually all the best skin shaders and textures are reserved for the main character, which in the first game was Peter Parker. Compare PS4 Peter Parker to PS4 Miles and you would hardly believe it's the same game. Now that this new game will focus on Miles as the main character, it's only natural that all the extra processing that made Peter look great will transition over to Miles. Don't be fooled, look for yourself.
Yeaaaah right --- no chance Horizon looks like that.
But how is the game going to actually play? Will there be elements that set it apart from a PS4 game? We haven't seen enough to know yet.Usually all the best skin shaders and textures are reserved for the main character, which in the first game was Peter Parker. Compare PS4 Peter Parker to PS4 Miles and you would hardly believe it's the same game. Now that this new game will focus on Miles as the main character, it's only natural that all the extra processing that made Peter look great will transition over to Miles. Don't be fooled, look for yourself.
Still amusing as it is contradictory with their argument of previous gen games holding back innovation. At least this one will offer 60fps...Well they are going to remake the assets and optimize it for the PS5. Could also mean that they could add additional content as well.
Definitely not a simple upscale to 4K.
This is also Bluepoint that's making this and they are specialized in remakes and remasters. Also this was a game that many were asking so I'm sure it's not a bad thing that it's coming.
Here is another comparison of Miles' character model. I have no idea what people are looking at when they say this looks like the PS4 character mode.
I see nothing wrong with Sony's approach. They have the right approach.
Now this is just getting silly. No, i am not buying your assertion that main characters look better than side characters in most games. Thats simply not true. Especially in this game since Miles is one of the three playable characters and is in many scenes with Peter, and it never looks like they are from different games.
Regardless, Miles now looks a gen ahead of the Peter parker character model.
Honestly, Hellblade 2 trailer looks better than those.
Honestly, Hellblade 2 trailer looks better than those.
Based on the fact that the games shown at the Sony conference looked mostly cross gen and could easily run on PS4 with downscaled effects, i'd say MS has the right approach and more consumer friendly.
What are people going to say if Halo Infinite(cross gen) looks better than anything shown at the sony event that supposedly can only be done on PS5?
Honestly the only thing that can innovate gameplay is VR, there is not room anymore in classic 3d games all they have to do is to get closer to reality in terms of physics, animation 3d assets and texture. And this is what a new generation has to deliver, an improvement over the old one, Ratchet & Clank portals are a good hint of what ssd speed can allow into the making but nothing so different or innovative that smashes your jaw, it is indeed a nice addition as well as SSD can open great scenarios into open world games
i raise you a TLoU2 character models...the real new standard...Those skin shaders are years ahead of ... i mean behind RYSE...
All hail the xbox one the king of next next gen graphics ...
a mild improvements in graphics proves the game can be easily scaled.
Has that not been the case yet? I guess it depends on how we look at it. What does "supporting it" mean? Making their own 1st party games? In that case, no they won't be supporting it.Didn't they once say 10 years of support for every Sony console?
They're talking about their 1st party. In 2021 all of their exclusives will be only on PS5There's going to be cross-platform games from all the big name developers for YEARS. They're not going to give up on that install base. I wonder what these fanboys will say when its holiday 2021 and they're still releasing cross-gen PS4/PS5 games. Probably bring up the lazy dev rhetoric again.
I just now noticed that those flying machines have blue lights, if flying mounts are in Horizon Forbidden West then it's going to be even more amazingNo.
Next gen Foliage:
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I wouldn't count that game out, it's going to be a lookerVery much stifling, we've seen that with the new Spiderman game...