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Kojima Productions destroy Naughty Dog with facts and logic

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
So, Koji-sama's team was just asking for some photo-mode screenshots on Facebook so that everyone can see how glorious Death Stranding looks. You know, just minding their own business like the best folks in the industry do:

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Of course, some people were jealous of how great Koji-sama's games are and decided to shill for inferior products such as TLOU2.

Koji-sama's team took none of this bullshit and stood proud, saying the truth out loud:

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It feels so good supporting Koji-sama. He's the best director in the industry (after David Cage of course).
I wonder if the person who posted the TLOA comment wasn't a ReeesetEra troll.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
So, Koji-sama's team was just asking for some photo-mode screenshots on Facebook so that everyone can see how glorious Death Stranding looks. You know, just minding their own business like the best folks in the industry do:

NVZ6Hfs.png


Of course, some people were jealous of how great Koji-sama's games are and decided to shill for inferior products such as TLOU2.

Koji-sama's team took none of this bullshit and stood proud, saying the truth out loud:

kcqguLw.png


It feels so good supporting Koji-sama. He's the best director in the industry (after David Cage of course).
Graphically, yea Death Stranding has TLOU2 beat...which surprised the hell outta me. Gameplay wise, both games have some really...REAAAALLY boring parts. I can't speak to the story because I haven't been able to bring myself to finish either one yet. I will say the premise of Death Stranding is definitely more intriguing though.

I really wish Sony studios would focus more on the gameplay. The cutscenes are nice but I don't wanna explore space and dinosaurs for a half hour at a museum when I'm supposed to be looking for my missing friend.
 

kraspkibble

Permabanned.
I haven't been a fan of Kojima but I am warming up to him.

I was gonna buy TLOU2 (loved the first...) until I saw the leaks but maybe I will buy Death Stranding after all. I may not like it but I'd rather give him my money than that Druckmann character.
 
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A.Romero

Member
Graphically, yea Death Stranding has TLOU2 beat...which surprised the hell outta me. Gameplay wise, both games have some really...REAAAALLY boring parts. I can't speak to the story because I haven't been able to bring myself to finish either one yet. I will say the premise of Death Stranding is definitely more intriguing though.

I really wish Sony studios would focus more on the gameplay. The cutscenes are nice but I don't wanna explore space and dinosaurs for a half hour at a museum when I'm supposed to be looking for my missing friend.

I like both but I think TLOU is superior graphics wise. Just starting the game.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Calling death stranding boring and getting TLOU instead.

That is cute.

At least death stranding does something new.
TLOU is nearly ubisoft levels of "innovation"
Gfx wise it's a close call.
And i didn't finish TLOU yet but the story telling is better imo.

DS is a bit of a clusterfuck.

I would rate both games about the same
Solid 8
 

Starfield

Member
So, Koji-sama's team was just asking for some photo-mode screenshots on Facebook so that everyone can see how glorious Death Stranding looks. You know, just minding their own business like the best folks in the industry do:

NVZ6Hfs.png


Of course, some people were jealous of how great Koji-sama's games are and decided to shill for inferior products such as TLOU2.

Koji-sama's team took none of this bullshit and stood proud, saying the truth out loud:

kcqguLw.png


It feels so good supporting Koji-sama. He's the best director in the industry (after David Cage of course).
I think Todd Howard is better
 

Bryank75

Banned
I don't think they should even be compared to be honest.
Kojima popularised an entire genre and keep improving on his own work for almost 20 years.
Making probably the best games the genre has to offer.

Then he got bored and made Death Stranding ...

Druckman made "the Road" and Indiana Jones video games.
Well, I'd rather attribute Uncharted to Amy Hennig.
 

Rikoi

Member
Very good comeback there :messenger_tears_of_joy: at least kojima did try something different, he got my support and my money, with a bit more shooting (especially in the earlier chapters) Death Stranding might have been a true gem for everyone and way less divisive.
 
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scalman

Member
numbers means nothing when game is boring at least in first part , i duno where that good part starts in death stranding as i never reached it. how it can be interesting to walk up to mountain and back to mountain and back, then sink in some black gue, then die then wake up then go to mountain again. transport locked , cant use anything just walk ... just why. and i have patience for all games i played until now, but i just dont know whats going on with this one. bought first day and dropped it like after week. never touched again.
until now its worst game of year that i bought , like i buy just games that i like to play and from trailers i thought i will... and i tried for many hrs to like it . enjoyed some stealth killing , some dialogs , some stuff i really enjoyed but not gameplay itself.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
Calling death stranding boring and getting TLOU instead.

That is cute.

At least death stranding does something new.
TLOU is nearly ubisoft levels of "innovation"
Gfx wise it's a close call.
And i didn't finish TLOU yet but the story telling is better imo.

DS is a bit of a clusterfuck.

I would rate both games about the same
Solid 8
While I agree with you on some points, I can't stand by and watch you call a solid 8 a clusterfuck. Mind your words, knave, for those words may be used to your detriment.

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Keihart

Member
numbers means nothing when game is boring at least in first part , i duno where that good part starts in death stranding as i never reached it. how it can be interesting to walk up to mountain and back to mountain and back, then sink in some black gue, then die then wake up then go to mountain again. transport locked , cant use anything just walk ... just why. and i have patience for all games i played until now, but i just dont know whats going on with this one. bought first day and dropped it like after week. never touched again.
until now its worst game of year that i bought , like i buy just games that i like to play and from trailers i thought i will... and i tried for many hrs to like it . enjoyed some stealth killing , some dialogs , some stuff i really enjoyed but not gameplay itself.
The genius part of death stranding it's that it gamefied a very overlooked action in games which is walking, and made a story and world that worked with it. If you play games for combat, yes, Death Stranding seems to have very little going on, if you play for gameplay, there is tons of it.

TloU2 is great too, although i haven't finished, one of the most ambitious and bold games this gen, just like i consider DS and TLG this gen. You don't usually see games likes this with this level of production from other studios and publishers anymore.
 

Tiamat2san

Member
At least I can understand the story of last of us 2.

Kojima stories are just pretentious (and yeah I finished and understood DS), pseudo- sociological stuffs mixed with blockbuster Hollywood non sense.

TLOU 2 has big flaws and plots holes.
Sometimes it is maybe a little too pretentious too but not a the same level.

And we can’t really compare these games graphically except for cutscenes .
DS characters are made of Wax.
Beautiful EMPTY landscapes.

TLOU2 is more dense, less opened.
There’s a lot of inside locations ( almost none for DS)

2 different games.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
While I agree with you on some points, I can't stand by and watch you call a solid 8 a clusterfuck. Mind your words, knave, for those words may be used to your detriment.

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Purely talking about how they try to tell their story.
Rest of the game was good.
😁
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
Purely talking about how they try to tell their story.
Rest of the game was good.
😁
Oh well...yea...I think I'm still just after we set the President on fire. So not very far in at all. I will say TLOU2's pacing is a bit slow and disjointed.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Oh well...yea...I think I'm still just after we set the President on fire. So not very far in at all. I will say TLOU2's pacing is a bit slow and disjointed.
think so?
Oh boy have fun with DS then 😆
 

Hudo

Member
I mean, if the guy has more fun taking photos of the game box and use them to shitpost on the internet instead of playing the game...

To each his own, I guess.
 

brian0057

Banned
When your game is so shit that even the hacks at Kojima Productions roast you over it.
Almost makes me wanna buy Death Stranding... almost.
 
I haven't been a fan of Kojima but I am warming up to him.

I was gonna buy TLOU2 (loved the first...) until I saw the leaks but maybe I will buy Death Stranding after all. I may not like it but I'd rather give him my money than that Druckmann character.
Love him or hate him. But it's undeniable that Kojima is a creative powerhouse. Nobody else could have created something like death stranding.
 

Woggleman

Member
Death Stranding is one of the most unenjoyable games I have ever played. TLOU2 has it beat by miles when it comes to gameplay. 90% of the game walking back and forth with a bunch of crap strapped to your back.
 

XboxFan

Banned
Lots of walking around and looking at things. Combat is repetitive and the game goes on too long and has too many cutscenes. Fans of the title are ravenous nonsensical sheep.
Which game am I talking about?
You made it too easy, that you're talking about Gears of War and Halo !
 

XboxFan

Banned
Anyways, Death Stranding was a tremendously underrated unique game. And Last of Us 2 is the greatest game ever made. 2 awesome, innovative, bold, risk taking playstation exclusives which shit all over any of the competitors "games." Playstation gamers are simply winning. The blatant console warriors in this thread are just pissed that they can't play either!
 
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Woggleman

Member
Lots of walking around and looking at things. Combat is repetitive and the game goes on too long and has too many cutscenes. Fans of the title are ravenous nonsensical sheep.
Which game am I talking about?
Neither one. I disliked Death Stranding but people who like it are not sheep.
 

XboxFan

Banned
Also I will never understand why "people" parade around that "user score" like if it means anything lol. As if the game wasn't review bombed by alt-right snowflakes and the xbox discord. As if it wasnt review bombed by people who have never played the game, or whom have never even touched a PS4 controller and will never play the game. Is this "gamers" version of "alternative facts" "alternative reality" where they are pretending that a 96 game is bad now?

Notice how "they" will always latch on to subjective claims about story and pacing (all subjective) in order to start a hate campaign against the newest GOTY playstation exclusive. Its the playbook 101. They cant ever actually bring up facts or objective claims.
 
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