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Nintendo's operating profit for full FY 19/20 is higher than Sony(G&NS), Capcom, Square Enix, Ubisoft, Konami, and Sega Sammy (and some by a lot!)

Grinchy

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Something insane to think about is the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sales. There was a thread recently showing something like 25M sales.

Nintendo is the developer and publisher of that game. When a copy is bought on their digital store, they get essentially 100% of the cut. When a physical copy is sold at retail, they get, what? 70%? I don't know.

The point is, 25M copies at $60 is $1.5B and they get an absurdly high percentage of that revenue. And it's a fucking port of a Wii U game, so it cost them next to nothing to develop for Switch. That's one single title in their Switch lineup.
 
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OliverKahn

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
You haven't answered my question yet

Do you actually believe the gap between revenue and profit is because of third party profit margins?
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You were asking the question? i already answered that.

Animal Crossing and new record breakers of Nintendo Switch hardware sales this FY is really a sight to be hold.
 
Thirty7ven

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OliverKahn said:
Perhaps you should learn how to read the title first?


Nintendo's operating profit for full FY 19/20 is higher than Sony(G&NS), Capcom, Square Enix, Ubisoft, Konami, and Sega Sammy combined

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Nintendo Operating Profit for the FY ending March 2020: ¥352.37 billion yen and please do the math from the graph properly this time.
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Read properly? The title says Nintendo made more profit than the others combined. That's what you wrote.

Or are you saying... Sega Sammy combined? Lol what the fuck, why would you even say "combined" then.

And again, Nintendo's operating income for the FY ending March 2020 was superior to SONY's GAME BUSINESS during PS1 years or during PS2 years (Etc). But so was Sony's and MS's???

I would say you need to be more careful with what you write, but it's starting to look like you do it on purpose.
 
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OliverKahn

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Grinchy said:
Something insane to think about is the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sales. There was a thread recently showing something like 25M sales.

Nintendo is the developer and publisher of that game. When a copy is bought on their digital store, they get essentially 100% of the cut. When a physical copy is sold at retail, they get, what? 70%? I don't know.

The point is, 25M copies at $60 is $1.5B and they get an absurdly high percentage of that revenue. And it's a fucking port of a Wii U game, so it cost them next to nothing to develop for Switch. That's one single title in their Switch lineup.
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Digital sales is the new Wii mini moment for Nintendo Switch as NDS+Wii combination was too hard to be topped.
 
phil_t98

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Hobbygaming said:
I came to say this. Less graphically demanding games and less expensive tech in their hardware = more savings

They spend less but make more and that's good for them, they have their own market in gaming
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At this point in time isn’t the PS4 relativly cheap to produce also? I mean the tech is 7 years old so be fairly cheap same with xbox
 
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OliverKahn

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Thirty7ven said:
Read properly? The title says Nintendo made more profit than the others combined. That's what you wrote.

Or are you saying... Sega Sammy combined? Lol what the fuck, why would you even say "combined" then.

And again, Nintendo's operating income for the FY ending March 2020 was superior to SONY's GAME BUSINESS during PS1 years or during PS2 years (Etc). But so was Sony's and MS's???

I would say you need to be more careful with what you write, but it's starting to look like you do it on purpose.
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are you blind or what?

Sony G&NS+Square Enix+Konami+Sega+Capcom+Ubisoft = do the math vs Nintendo

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Nintendo's operating income for the FY ending March 2020 was superior to SONY's GAME BUSINESS for the entire of FY 94/95 to 2009/2010(PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP).

Nintendo FY 19/20 operating profit is higher than the entire Sony Game division operating income from FY 1994/1995 to 2009/2010
 
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MightySquirrel

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DGrayson said:
The fact that you can even keep a straight face while saying this is a fucking joke. Stay out of Nintendo threads if you are going to troll. And this is coming from someone who doesnt even own a Switch. WTF
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If you feel that my post was trolling, then it's fine as everyone has their own opinion, even if it's a wrong one in the eyes of biassed fanboys. I'll try to avoid saying what I honestly think about nintendo games in the future.

It's sad to see NeoGAF turn into twitter. :messenger_anguished:
 
Trimesh

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MaestroMike said:
why does Sony/Microsoft cut the prices of its first party games and not keep it the full $59.99 ??? If Nintendo can do it, I'm sure they can. Their games cost more to make, too.
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My guess is that it's because Sony and Microsoft have always sold their games on optical discs and as a result they can sell at very low prices and still make money. Once they discovered there were a substantial number of people that were waiting for the price drop, they decided to follow a strategy of bringing the prices down fast so they could capture as much revenue as possible as quickly as possible.

Nintendo were used to dealing with cartridges, which are expensive to make and hence reduce your scope for price reductions. Even when they started using discs they still had cartridge based handhelds so if they wanted to maintain a consistent pricing policy between their portable and home systems they had to chose one that was compatible with the higher priced cartridge media.

Having done this for many years, you arrive at the situation where people don't expect the price of Nintendo games to drop quickly, and once you have established that expectation there is no positive effect to changing it. On top of this, for many years Nintendo were a privately held company and were under no pressure to post increasing numbers every year - so aiming for the highest total revenue even if it extended several years into the future would be the best approach. In contrast, publicly quoted companies are under strong pressure to generate good numbers NOW - even if that results in lower overall revenues over a period of multiple years.
 
mejin

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End and preparation for new gen. Nintendo was smart to run from direct competition years ago when they created Wii. They knew they couldn't beat Sony doing the same.

Sony has a strategy to make first party games that their partners won't do. That's why playstation has always a more complete lineup than any nintendo plataform.

You won't see sony doing crazy things like nintendo in console space, but as a result you won't see big failures like N64, GC and WiiU coming from a PlayStation console.

Sony won't ever have the chance do sell as much as Nintendo first party softwares since they have a different approach, but their first party games are selling better gen after gen.

This is good cause PlayStation and nintendos complement each other.

But Microsoft....you may understand why they want to destroy the traditional market.
 
DGrayson

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MightySquirrel said:
If you feel that my post was trolling, then it's fine as everyone has their own opinion, even if it's a wrong one in the eyes of biassed fanboys. I'll try to avoid saying what I honestly think about nintendo games in the future.

It's sad to see NeoGAF turn into twitter. :messenger_anguished:
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You honestly dont think there is not one Nintendo game of the last 10 years for anyone other than 6 years old and below? And someone disagreeing with you is a biased fanboy?

It seems you have the bias.
 
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Sander Cohen

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Cynical corporation that releases cheap consoles/handhelds and cheap games. Their production values are joke, just look at their graphics and sound. No cutscenes, no mo-cap, no anything of value. But it still sells like hot cakes. How could they not be leading in this category?
 
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Rat Rage

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If you have been following Nintendo's profit numbers over the last 30 years, you would have learned that - with the exeption of the Wii U - Nintendo knows how to make profit exceptionally well. They have so much money, its ridiculous.
This is the cool thing about Nintendo: They take more risks than any other hardware developer. They don't chase industry trends like their competition, but rather focus on their own development strenghts and legacy. They always try to innovate, even it that means risking a failure. Yet, they nearly always make huge profits. All of this gives them freedom to to their own thing (and stay a bit crazy and unpredictable) and not give a fuck about their competition.
 
Hobbygaming

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phil_t98 said:
At this point in time isn’t the PS4 relativly cheap to produce also? I mean the tech is 7 years old so be fairly cheap same with xbox
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Not cheaper than the Switch. Sony still has the PS4, PS4 Pro and they've invested a ton into the PS5

Not to mention Nintendo spend less on their AAA titles but make more and the prices for a lot of their games stay at $60
 
Scotty W

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What OP doesn’t mention is that Nintendo actually earned more than Sega, Square, Sony etc. AS WELL AS Microsoft AND Apple. Just let that sink in for a bit.
 
wipeout364

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Sony just has better accountants, able to hide the money better, too much profit shareholders going start asking questions as to why dividends so low or why isn’t the money being utilized for growth or buybacks.
 
phil_t98

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Hobbygaming said:
Not cheaper than the Switch. Sony still has the PS4, PS4 Pro and they've invested a ton into the PS5

Not to mention Nintendo spend less on their AAA titles but make more and the prices for a lot of their games stay at $60
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its Nintendos fault there games retain values? also do you not think that Nintendo won't be heavily investing in a new console development at the moment? again Nintendo spend on their AAA games what they want. their AAA games are always great
 
Hobbygaming

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phil_t98 said:
its Nintendos fault there games retain values? also do you not think that Nintendo won't be heavily investing in a new console development at the moment? again Nintendo spend on their AAA games what they want. their AAA games are always great
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Nintendo could invest in a Switch 2 and still not come close to the R & D that Sony put up for the PS5 hardware, that's not Nintendo's thing

The same goes for the amount spent for AAA production

I agree that Nintendo is great, their consoles are nice secondary consoles to PS consoles IMO
 
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Sander Cohen

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DGrayson said:
You honestly dont think there is not one Nintendo game of the last 10 years for anyone other than 6 years old and below? And someone disagreeing with you is a biased fanboy?

It seems you have the bias.
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No one should be stigmatized for playing Nintendo games, if you’re 34 and play Super Mario Odyssey I think that’s fine. Hell, I’m 30 and currently play DQ XI and you could say that game is definitely not for mature/hardcore audience. But let’s be honest here for a second, Nintendo’s games are aimed at younger demographics, I mean if that isn’t obvious, I don’t know what it is. Their games follow same exact pattern: colorful, easy to play, simple, kiddy/small size characters etc etc.

That’s the only way you could explain their massive sales numbers. Parents buy them for their children and massive amount of casuals who usually play mobile games etc.
 
phil_t98

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Hobbygaming said:
Nintendo could invest in a Switch 2 and still not come close to the R & D that Sony put up for the PS5 hardware, that's not Nintendo's thing

The same goes for the amount spent for AAA production

I agree that Nintendo is great, their consoles are nice secondary consoles to PS consoles IMO
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But with the profits wouldn’t you say Nintendo are doing it right? I think Sony it’s great don’t get me wrong
 
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OliverKahn

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Thirty7ven said:
Maybe it's time for you to show me your calculation? Because so far you got nothing. Your title is misleading, and you should change it.
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read the title and do the calculation

are you not aware that you're the only one who unable to comprehend the thread title in this thread?

let me teach you how to do the calculation

Sony(G&NS)+Capcom+Sega Sammy+Konami+Square Enix+Ubisoft = ??? vs Nintendo = 3.241b
 
Thirty7ven

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OliverKahn said:
read the title and do the calculation

are you not aware that you're the only one who unable to comprehend the thread title in this thread?

let me teach you how to do the calculation

Sony(G&NS)+Capcom+Sega Sammy+Konami+Square Enix+Ubisoft = ??? vs Nintendo = 3.241b
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How about you start putting some numbers in those calculations and stop being a smart ass?

Put numbers, show me the money.

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Bryank75

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KeiichiInafune said:
Wouldn’t Sony have lower profits due to heavily investing in ramping up to PS5???
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Sony games take way more investment, so does R&D and production of hardware etc.

I'm glad Nintendo is healthy though. I have more Switches in the house than PS4's.

Important to recognize that Sony profit was over double Nintendos overall though and that they are not completely dependent on one sector. Sony also has nearly 28 billion cash in the bank, over 3 times what Nintendo has, they've had a good few years of reaping profit from PS4 and now the generation is coming to a close.
 
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OliverKahn

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Bryank75 said:
Sony games take way more investment, so does R&D and production of hardware etc.

I'm glad Nintendo is healthy though. I have more Switches in the house than PS4's.

Important to recognize that Sony profit was over double Nintendos overall though and that they are not completely dependent on one sector. Sony also has nearly 28 billion cash in the bank, over 3 times what Nintendo has, they've had a good few years of reaping profit from PS4 and now the generation is coming to a close.
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take a look at the cash and debt for Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo is far more healthier than Sony(whole company).
 
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MightySquirrel

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Sander Cohen said:
No one should be stigmatized for playing Nintendo games, if you’re 34 and play Super Mario Odyssey I think that’s fine. Hell, I’m 30 and currently play DQ XI and you could say that game is definitely not for mature/hardcore audience. But let’s be honest here for a second, Nintendo’s games are aimed at younger demographics, I mean if that isn’t obvious, I don’t know what it is. Their games follow same exact pattern: colorful, easy to play, simple, kiddy/small size characters etc etc.

That’s the only way you could explain their massive sales numbers. Parents buy them for their children and massive amount of casuals who usually play mobile games etc.
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Thank you. Well, apart from Zelda botw which I specifically singled out.
 
cryptoadam

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Thats what happens when you sell a bazillion copies of MK 8 a game built like a decade ago.

MK 8 super ultra delux will be bringing in the profit and selling 10s of millions on the switch 3 probably lol.
 
Hobbygaming

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phil_t98 said:
But with the profits wouldn’t you say Nintendo are doing it right? I think Sony it’s great don’t get me wrong
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They are doing it right for their fans/market but their approach would never work for Sony or Microsoft

Imagine Sony or MS coming out with lower tiered hardware and making a lot of Mario, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, types of games... it would not be received well lol
 
phil_t98

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Hobbygaming said:
They are doing it right for their fans/market but their approach would never work for Sony or Microsoft

Imagine Sony or MS coming out with lower tiered hardware and making a lot of Mario, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, types of games... it would not be received well lol
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I get that but SONu and Microsoft could easily produce the quality of games Nintendo does and like I say Nintendo are killing it, Sony and Microsoft need to see there is an audience for those type of games as well as the games they already produce. no good just going for one area of the market when there a whole other area that's proving more profitable. do both
 
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