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Microsoft confirms 12 TF RDNA 2 for the Xbox Series X
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base
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They soon first focus on improving the drivers. I have a r5700xt myself but it will be the last amd graphic card. Problem with black screens, freesync flickering, stuttering in games, freezes, etc.Bring on da GPUs baby
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Yeah, I wanted a quantum computer for next-gen. Classical computing is dead!
But nah, I hope Sony starts talking soon too. Not a fan of the quietness of late from them.
Told you all, guns blazing.
About 14 TF GCN old.
Actually more like 15.163TF GCN, and that's with RDNA1 upper-end efficiency in mind (25%).
Assuming RDNA2 is closer to, say, 30%, it's more like almost 16TF GCN (15.834TF actual).
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That’s how it will be .. the same but for the other team! And why not?
base
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The consoles will get Custom built GPU. Who said Amd can't release something better than 5700xt for the consoles and RDNA2 cards for PC sometime later?
spartan30gr
Member
This is a fucking beast!!!!
Microsoft its on the right track(this time)
grfunkulus
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Where did I say they couldn't beat it? I have no doubt they will but if rdna 2 and big Navi are truly to save AMD's gpu efforts, they'll need to the avoid the the rapidly diminishing returns and high heat/power consumption that have made any high end amd card a slippery proposition (recent history).
As I mentioned, there have been widely circulated reports that amd was struggling to get big Navi down to manageable power draws and had to readjust initial projections
Whether or not that's still the case is an open question because we've not seen anything yet.
I'd love to be proven massively wrong so I can upgrade my 2080 in a couple years and get a 25% or better bump at a price that's cheaper than the $600 I paid
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Oh you sweet summer child. Here's how it goes down depending on the PS5 specs:
If they're less: "Well the PS5 performs better anyway because it's coded to the metal or something. Plus PS5 has better exclusives."
If they're close to the same: "PS5 has a slight advantage here you can see from this multiplatform game that we get, on average, 1 fps more." (Bonus points: They'll ignore the fact that other aspects of the game run better on Xbox)
If they're absolutely identical (same CPU, same innards): "Can your Xbox Series X play Horizon: Zero Dawn 2 or Creepy Waifu Simulator 16? Didn't think so."
If they're more: "Only idiots buy Xbox so they can jerk each other off while playing Call of Duty". (Bonus points: they'll ignore the Xbox's other strengths and try to convince you that PSNow is just as good as Game Pass)
Old Empire.
Member
If this is 500 Euros, i be coming back to xbox full time. Sony will have to match it for me to continue with them. The new xbox is a monster and most of the games i play are third party.
DunDunDunpachi
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People will make something up out of thin air even if the specs are close.
But it'll be funny to see the same voices that preached about "scalability" getting angry that PS5 is "holding games back" if it doesn't reach parity, watch it happen.
Mass Shift
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My point exactly. They can spill it now, that wouldn't derail their pricing strategy.
SenjutsuSage
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I remember that when I said Series X was definitely RDNA 2, I was told that it would be exactly like that time I believed Xbox One X would have Zen. 
longdi
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12 tflops could be cpu + gpu.
Here is my 16 cores zen2 running at 4.2ghz, 1.9tflops. Osiris was hinting XsX 11.6tflops from graphics, so cpu could make up the 0.4tflops
Do some maths to 8cores, perhaps xbsx cpu runs at 2.2ghz. Roughly.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
They might have to sweeten the pot a little bit for anyone to jump on that $600 price tag. A year of Game Pass? An included Elite controller?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Also Todd Howard just confirmed Skyrim will still be sold separately on PS5/SEX
SuperLupeRap
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You sound like you're 12 or just extremely salty. Go play Dreams or something.
Evilms
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12 tflops could be cpu + gpu.
Here is my 16 cores zen2 running at 4.2ghz, 1.9tflops. Osiris was hinting XsX 11.6tflops from graphics, so cpu could make up the 0.4tflops
Do some maths to 8cores, perhaps xbsx cpu runs at 2.2ghz. Roughly.
Vawn
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Except when it comes to units sold or any information that may make us look less favorable.
Shin
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IIRC AMD outed 3.2GHz on their roadmap long ago with a power draw of 25-30W for Zen (this is Zen2 even), so that's out of the realms of possibilities as it would result in a 1GHz downclock.
Secondly and the last SiSoft leak I saw was running at 3.0 GHz (Zen) (IIRC), it won't be under 3.2GHz for that reason and all things considered (inc. current node).
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DunDunDunpachi
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Maybe.
I remember Xbox fans at the beginning of the 8th gen insisting the hardware difference didn't matter and the loyalty of Xbox Live was enough to carry forward the customer-base from 360.
It's best to just buy the console you enjoy and then to douse your popcorn with your favorite artificial butter-flavoring while the fanboys go at it.
SenjutsuSage
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It does. RDNA2 will have further architectural enhancements and efficiencies compared to first gen RDNA. Also, RDNA2 is on 7nm+, which must mean Xbox Series X is as well.
93xfan
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Later this week. Sony is going to announce they’re skipping TGS.
JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
I am hoping and praying that the PS5 is 9.2 from GitHub, for some really strange mentally deficient reason. A sexual reason.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
First off, if you have a fam or a lot of friends over especially, a console in the living room is a great complement to a PC, even more so now with gamepass. Secondly, even if you don't buy a SX, as long as you buy their games or sub to gamepass, pretty sure they are fine with that.
DeepEnigma
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longdi
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alabtrosMyster
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Dreams is a PlayStation exclusive.
But those are pretty high specs, I wonder what Sony has up their sleeves, if anything... In therms of specs this console checks all the marks for the next generation, we just don't know what it's going to be up against.
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BlackOlivesMatter
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Excuse me, but who the fuck are you?
LMAO
SuperLupeRap
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The one who's not salty. You?
Old Empire.
Member
This is accurate for most people. Still consoles are planned for people who prefer to use a controller not a mouse. If you’re going to spend 400 to 500 euros/dollars upgrading you might as we well purchase the best console with the best specs.
Sony has not revealed anything so it much difficult to pick one console over another. Sony very slow out of blocks releasing first party games, it took them 3 to 4 years to get going after launch in 2013.
I’ll be buying the console that has best performance at launch for third party. I still buy the PS5 at later stage if the specs are lower?
mckmas8808
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This is not impressive "for a console". It's just flat out impressive. No need to minimize it.
VAVA Mk2
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That was so good I just Tweeted it to Phil and Xbox LOLSony cancels events.
Phil drops 12TF RDNA 2 in a blog post.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
I don't think right now is the time to be saying one side is screwed over the other at all. Not until Sony reveals their hand. But even then, it will only matter if you are a graphics whore like me.
WouldYouKindly
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The fact some of yall think sony isn't gonna match/be better is hilarious you honestly think they are gonna give ms that again?
StreetsofBeige
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Considering Sony is skipping E3, Pax East and GDC, it’s so far been a complete whiff.