Rentahamster
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Oh jeezThe only passively cooled X570 right now is the $700 Gigabyte Aorus X570 Extreme.
LMAO
Oh jeezThe only passively cooled X570 right now is the $700 Gigabyte Aorus X570 Extreme.
LMAO
Absolutely true. Honestly i cant make my mind up on what to get really all those ryzen cpu's are god tier products atm. 3700 sits at 9900k core counts, 3600 on 8700k core counts and they are cheap as hell on top of it.
Intel will have to drop a new series of CPU's sooner then later or drop the prices drastically to keep being valid. Atm the only edge intel has is on high core counts and emulation but that's it.
Will the next zen be on a new socket or will we have one more for AM4 after Ryzen 3000?
AMD promised AM4 socket will be supported through 2020, so Zen 2+ (Ryzen 4000) should be on AM4. After that, probably Socket AM5 for Zen 3 core.Will the next zen be on a new socket or will we have one more for AM4 after Ryzen 3000?
Will the next zen be on a new socket or will we have one more for AM4 after Ryzen 3000?
There are people who understand how numbers work.
We're done.
Then there are people who won't even listen to what AMD themselves said about this comparison...There are people who understand how numbers work.
Then there are those who don't.
Then there are straws.
That is exactly what you are not following: WHICH numbers you can't compare to each other.Nobody's arguing the numbers. People are arguing that you can't compare them to each other...
God you're fucking stupid.That is exactly what you are not following: WHICH numbers you can't compare to each other.
You can't compare 5700 on one CPU, to 2070 on another and nobody is doing that either.
Each source is testing a single CPU with 3 different GPUs.
3600 is very close to 8700k, quite great.
Becomes this:
3900X
Vega VII - 119,0 +28%
5700XT - 115,0 +24%
2070 - 93,0
9900k
Vega VII - 111,3 +8%
5700XT - 109,8 +6%
2070 - 102,8
GPU gap is larger on the AMD CPU.You can't do that... because they are different sources man...
Wait... You want a $200 AMD CPU to compete with a $480 intel CPU?I don't like how we've gone from "AMD blew Intel the fuck out" to "it's very close to CPUs that aren't even Intel's fastest." AMD is just a perpetual disappointment. I want to support them, but they never let me.
There IS a sensible explanation to it... it's called DIFFERENT FUCKING SOURCES.GPU gap is larger on the AMD CPU.
This is a HARD FACT, with no "muh, bah doh ough".
There is no sensible explanation to it, besides the one I've mentioned in my previous post.
Wait... You want a $200 AMD CPU to compete with a $480 intel CPU?
Possibly. But they are still not worth it if they're going to have crappy minimum framerates and stutters.Single threaded performance wise, $200 Intel CPUs are faster than $200 AMD CPUs.
Depends on the combo.i9 9900k + MB is cheaper than the combo 3900x + MB
Why Ryzen is the best Gaming CPU....?
Also, Streaming + Gaming......
Gaming whilst having other workloads running....No contest..
I was waiting for these new AMD processors, tgey are good for everything but gaming, major issue even if the gap is not that huge, i9 9900k can be be oveclocked on all cores to 5ghz and the gap increases pretty much, honestly for now, the combo i9 9900k + MB is cheaper than the combo 3900x + MB, but I do understand everyone has different needs and different stories, so AMD processors are definitely great processors and the most recommendable, the question is always, what do you do and plan to do in future with your PC? The answers then is easy
is this now a good time to upgrade from a 4790k i7 ?
is this now a good time to upgrade from a 4790k i7 ?
TPU benches have shown there is next to no diff in perf between x470 an x570 boards.
Even B350 works just fine (they tried it with 3600).
Chipset power consumption went from around 5 watts for x470 to about 10 watts with x570. Figure is still rather low, but warrants a cooler, that most of the time could be idling.
x570 brings vs x470
more USB3 ports
PCIe4 - no impact on GPUs (TPU tested 5700/XT), but NVMe SSDs could use that extra bandwidth.
is this now a good time to upgrade from a 4790k i7 ?
Seems like the reason to buy a better motherboard is for future upgrades. I bet my ass off that 4000 series is going to grind some vrms to dust so buying a cheap motherboard could bite you in the arse later on.
Unless you need the cores or features or got a top end gpu and want to push all the performance into 144hz 1080p gaming, or do emulation. there is no need. That cpu is holding up pretty well atm. Better of sitting it out unitl your cpu drops below 60 fps in games. From what is saw even ac origin sits at 60+ fps.
Even ~5GHz 7700K drops frames in Alexandria
For those who planned to go with Ryzen 3600, at 1440p very slim gap between 5700XT ($399) and 2070S ($499) athat AIB's will likely cover.
Does someone have a link to a chiplet configuration breakdown by product SKU? I'm curious how many of them are split into core modules, where the cutoff is before the cores become monolithic (apart from the IO die), and are any of them unequal numbers of cores between the two chiplets?
The 8+8 is obvious, but was anything below it split?
I haven't paid enough attention to this aspect, just got curious
3950X is 2x8
3900X is 2x6
3800X and 3700X are 1x8
3600X and 3600 are 1x6
This creates some interesting situations for the people using the 6-core CCX variants (3900X, 3600X, 3600) with the PS3 emulator RPCS3 as an example:
Does someone have a link to a chiplet configuration breakdown by product SKU? I'm curious how many of them are split into core modules, where the cutoff is before the cores become monolithic (apart from the IO die), and are any of them unequal numbers of cores between the two chiplets?
The 8+8 is obvious, but was anything below it split?
I haven't paid enough attention to this aspect, just got curious
is this now a good time to upgrade from a 4790k i7 ?
heard anantech claims xt hovers 1750mhz on average, would an aib increase that?
AMD's robert hallock said even the communication of CCXs on the same chiplet go through the I/O-die. therefore CCX latency is virtualy the same on chiplet and between chiplet.
Interesting. The CCX appears more relevant than the physically split chiplet.
Now why are "best latencies" in groups of three?
Very Good Review...…..Quite interesting results......The 3600 is one hell of a CPU...
Very Good Review...…..Quite interesting results......The 3600 is one hell of a CPU...
No doubt, and regardless of how awesome the entry level Ryzen 3000 processor is, that it beats high end Intel processors that cost loads more.....Pretty much every Ryzen processor on the higher scale is better in price to perf against the Intel too, the entire Intel Stack.......Now if someone wants more cores and more threads, Ryzen has them covered with 3700, 3800, 3900...….More cores to throw at encrypting, encoding, emulating.....More cores to do streaming without breaking a sweat or loading multiple CPU intensive programs into memory...….Whatever you need, Ryzen's got you...Yes Techspot/HardwareUnboxed gave it a 100/100 score, says it makes the 9600X (and 9600) redundant as same gaming performance more or less but delivers some crazy multi-threaded performance for its price.