Sumio Mondo
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In his last years he visually reminded me of my great uncle (who was essentially my grandfather) a lot. 91 is a damn good age though for a heavy smoker, good on him.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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Corpsepyre
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Can't wait to see him and Lynch in Lucky.
EDIT: RIP HDS. Shit. He did a lot of living, though.
That's more or less how I've come away from The Return. As a fan of great and interesting TV, I absolutely loved it. As a fan of Twin Peaks, it was....okay. To me Twin Peaks has always been half about the town and the people in it, and half about the mystery surrounding Laura Palmer's death. Not just who murdered her and why, but the Lodges and Lodge inhabitants. At the latter half, The Return was almost everything I could ask for and then some. At the former, it was pretty much an unmitigated failure.
Twin Peaks (the town) didn't feel like a town anymore, it felt like a half dozen sets on a sound stage and a bunch of assholes I didn't really care about, nor did the narrative care about making me care about them either. Occasionally they used old characters to great effect. Bobby Briggs is easily the standout in the regard, along with Sarah Palmer, despite her limited screen time. Big Ed, Norma and Shelley got decent treatment too. The rest of the returning cast though was almost completely wasted. What's the point of revisiting beloved characters 25 years later if you're not even going to bother catching up with them at any point? What's Hawk been up to in the mean time? Fuck if I know. Talking to Margaret Lanterman on the phone every night for two and a half decades? What have Albert and Gordon been doing since Cooper disappeared? Nothing more important than a French lady taking five minutes to leave a room, apparently. About the only characters that got any kind of back story for the past 25 years were Andy and Lucy and even that felt solely in service of one of the worst cameos I've ever seen. Wally Brando and Freddie Sykes are about as wacky and ridiculous as anything in S2 and felt completely out of place in this new, much more dark and dour Twin Peaks. Speaking of bad cameos, what the fuck was even the point of Ashley Judd's character?
It's no wonder the new characters felt so much more interesting. At every turn it seems like Frost and Lynch went out of their way to do as little as possible with the towns people of Twin Peaks. I expect that to an extent in TSHOTP, but not a return to the show 25 years in the making. I get it, Lynch doesn't give a fuck about fan service. That's fine. But after a while it felt like he and Frost stopped giving a fuck about most of the secondary and tertiary characters in Twin Peaks.
That's more or less how I've come away from The Return. As a fan of great and interesting TV, I absolutely loved it. As a fan of Twin Peaks, it was....okay. To me Twin Peaks has always been half about the town and the people in it, and half about the mystery surrounding Laura Palmer's death. Not just who murdered her and why, but the Lodges and Lodge inhabitants. At the latter half, The Return was almost everything I could ask for and then some. At the former, it was pretty much an unmitigated failure.
Twin Peaks (the town) didn't feel like a town anymore, it felt like a half dozen sets on a sound stage and a bunch of assholes I didn't really care about, nor did the narrative care about making me care about them either. Occasionally they used old characters to great effect. Bobby Briggs is easily the standout in the regard, along with Sarah Palmer, despite her limited screen time. Big Ed, Norma and Shelley got decent treatment too. The rest of the returning cast though was almost completely wasted. What's the point of revisiting beloved characters 25 years later if you're not even going to bother catching up with them at any point? What's Hawk been up to in the mean time? Fuck if I know. Talking to Margaret Lanterman on the phone every night for two and a half decades? What have Albert and Gordon been doing since Cooper disappeared? Nothing more important than a French lady taking five minutes to leave a room, apparently. About the only characters that got any kind of back story for the past 25 years were Andy and Lucy and even that felt solely in service of one of the worst cameos I've ever seen. Wally Brando and Freddie Sykes are about as wacky and ridiculous as anything in S2 and felt completely out of place in this new, much more dark and dour Twin Peaks. Speaking of bad cameos, what the fuck was even the point of Ashley Judd's character?
It's no wonder the new characters felt so much more interesting. At every turn it seems like Frost and Lynch went out of their way to do as little as possible with the towns people of Twin Peaks. I expect that to an extent in TSHOTP, but not a return to the show 25 years in the making. I get it, Lynch doesn't give a fuck about fan service. That's fine. But after a while it felt like he and Frost stopped giving a fuck about most of the secondary and tertiary characters in Twin Peaks.
Eaten By A Grue
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I saw the news from Showtime on Facebook, so sad. I am so glad we got to see Harry Dean Stanton one last time and for him to reprise his role as Carl Rod in the show before he passed away. Especially since he was 91 and still able to act. I feel like he is one of the many cast members that makes Twin Peaks what is Twin Peaks. He will greatly be missed.
Just finished watching the final 3 episodes. I still have to digest all of it and read about/discuss what happened, but I'm 🕴💀💃🦉🤸
I can understand people who got frustrated, but I'm very satisfied. I can barely believe this season even exists, and that it was even stranger, funnier and unconventional than I could ever imagine. I have to say that I'm glad I waited to watch the final stretch one after the other though.
Looking forward to Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier by Mark Frost. The Secret History of Twin Peaks was cool and I liked the format.
I just wish Netflix Br would make seasons 1, 2 and Fire Walk With Me available. Pretty hard to recommend the show to other people with only season 3 available, especially because it's listed as season 1 here (gotta be confusing as hell to anyone who stumbles upon the show and starts watching it without any context).
I can understand people who got frustrated, but I'm very satisfied. I can barely believe this season even exists, and that it was even stranger, funnier and unconventional than I could ever imagine. I have to say that I'm glad I waited to watch the final stretch one after the other though.
Looking forward to Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier by Mark Frost. The Secret History of Twin Peaks was cool and I liked the format.
I just wish Netflix Br would make seasons 1, 2 and Fire Walk With Me available. Pretty hard to recommend the show to other people with only season 3 available, especially because it's listed as season 1 here (gotta be confusing as hell to anyone who stumbles upon the show and starts watching it without any context).
KO Traveling Hobo
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RIP
I was really hoping we'd get a full version of the song. Such a beautiful performance.31GhostsIV
Banned
RIP Harry. Another Peak star gone :-(
Intheflorsh
Banned
RIP HDS
He had a great run.
He had a great run.
uncelestial
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I'm so grateful that Lynch got Harry Dean Stanton, Catherine Coulson, Miguel Ferrer, and Warren Frost all in Season 3 before they passed on. Quite a remarkable feature of the season. I was still waiting until "the kettle scene" for David Bowie to show up. That would've been nuts. RIP to all.
Schopenhauerian
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I really liked this statement:
But on the following point:
I'm actually following the discussion here with great interest (and appreciate everyone's input):
That chart/guide above (for Season Two) is quite interesting to me, and many folks have likewise contrasted Season Three with the ‘Original Series' considered as a cohesive unit (often referring with fondness to characters and moments from Season Two). This is different enough from my own experience that I thought I might briefly chime in, to add another data point into the mix, and also partly out of simple curiosity, to see if anyone else might have had a similar experience with the series:
When I first started watching Twin Peaks on Netflix back in 2015, just about the only thing I knew was that David Lynch was the co-creator, along with Mark Frost. When I started watching I simply assumed (w/o researching the matter ahead of time) that Lynch would've been highly involved and/or influential on the writing and directing for each and every episode. Based on this assumption, I also assumed (based in turn on my high opinion of Lynch's film work) that each and every episode would be good.
But after getting through the first half of Season Two back in 2015, I felt compelled to email the following word of warning to a friend, to whom I had (earlier in the week, after completing Season One) enthusiastically recommended the show: ”..the precipitous decline in quality in the second season of Twin Peaks is actually shocking! Beyond the first two episodes of the 2nd season, it is like a completely different show (despite having all the same characters & trying to continue the same story). I see now that this is a well-known fact to those familiar with the show, but it was a complete surprise to me when watching..."
Point being, I didn't yet know (and was not yet concerned with) the actual extent of Lynch/Frost's involvement in each individual episode, while I was watching Season One and the first half of Season Two: I only started googling variations of ”Why is Twin Peaks Season 2 so bad" after I had personally found it increasingly difficult to watch, and had to force myself to get through to the end of episode 9 by making liberal use of fast-forward (my recollection is that Episode 7 was an outlier for me among these later episodes of Season Two, in that I still found it to be pretty good). Some months later, I tried to watch the remainder of Season Two, and finally stopped after Episode 14.
Notes on my experience of Season Three:
On the other hand, I really liked Season Three as a whole (despite the fact that it's very different from Season One), and I even liked each individual episode of Season Three. And while I did indeed like certain episodes of Season Three a lot more than others, for me personally, none of the episodes in Season Three were as bad as Episodes 3-6 & 8-14 of Season Two (though again, I haven't yet seen Episodes 15-22 of Season 2).
That said, while I did indeed enjoy Season Three a great deal (and definitely liked it a lot more than what I've seen of Season Two), I still find myself in agreement with at least some of the criticisms of Season Three that have been made in this thread, in particular with some of the points that gun_haver has made below (and which have been echoed by others). While it seems like gun_haver may have liked Season Two much more than I did, and I may have liked Season Three more than he/she did, we nonetheless have some key points of agreement on Season Three's shortcomings:
I'm probably not as big a film buff as some folks around here, but Hirokazu Koreeda's Maborosi and Carlos Reygadas's Silent Light immediately come to mind as movies that I loved, which prominently featured static camera angles and long takes, and where the static camera angles and long takes actually had aesthetic, emotional, and thematic resonance; the similarly long takes in Twin Peaks often encouraged contemplation where the cinematography, dialogue, and level of thematic convergence were all comparatively underwhelming:
But on the following point:
I'm actually following the discussion here with great interest (and appreciate everyone's input):
...Consult this if you are tempted to skip episodes:
That chart/guide above (for Season Two) is quite interesting to me, and many folks have likewise contrasted Season Three with the ‘Original Series' considered as a cohesive unit (often referring with fondness to characters and moments from Season Two). This is different enough from my own experience that I thought I might briefly chime in, to add another data point into the mix, and also partly out of simple curiosity, to see if anyone else might have had a similar experience with the series:
- I really liked all of Season One, all of Season Three, and Firewalk With Me. I liked Firewalk With Me on my first viewing. I'm interested in reading Jennifer Lynch's The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer at some point.
- I liked approximately 3 episodes from Season Two: Episodes 1 & 2 and Episode 7.
- I really struggled to watch the rest of Season 2. I've only been able to force myself to watch up to Episode 14. I really did not enjoy these episodes (3-6 & 8-14) at all. The latter group of episodes (8-14) was particularly bad, and these episodes seemed to become progressively worse, for me.
- I do plan on eventually trying (again) to at least make it through the rest of Season Two (i.e., Episodes 15 – 22, the ones which I still have not seen), in order to appreciate the final episode of Season Two (which many folks here have recommended as worthwhile).
When I first started watching Twin Peaks on Netflix back in 2015, just about the only thing I knew was that David Lynch was the co-creator, along with Mark Frost. When I started watching I simply assumed (w/o researching the matter ahead of time) that Lynch would've been highly involved and/or influential on the writing and directing for each and every episode. Based on this assumption, I also assumed (based in turn on my high opinion of Lynch's film work) that each and every episode would be good.
But after getting through the first half of Season Two back in 2015, I felt compelled to email the following word of warning to a friend, to whom I had (earlier in the week, after completing Season One) enthusiastically recommended the show: ”..the precipitous decline in quality in the second season of Twin Peaks is actually shocking! Beyond the first two episodes of the 2nd season, it is like a completely different show (despite having all the same characters & trying to continue the same story). I see now that this is a well-known fact to those familiar with the show, but it was a complete surprise to me when watching..."
Point being, I didn't yet know (and was not yet concerned with) the actual extent of Lynch/Frost's involvement in each individual episode, while I was watching Season One and the first half of Season Two: I only started googling variations of ”Why is Twin Peaks Season 2 so bad" after I had personally found it increasingly difficult to watch, and had to force myself to get through to the end of episode 9 by making liberal use of fast-forward (my recollection is that Episode 7 was an outlier for me among these later episodes of Season Two, in that I still found it to be pretty good). Some months later, I tried to watch the remainder of Season Two, and finally stopped after Episode 14.
Notes on my experience of Season Three:
On the other hand, I really liked Season Three as a whole (despite the fact that it's very different from Season One), and I even liked each individual episode of Season Three. And while I did indeed like certain episodes of Season Three a lot more than others, for me personally, none of the episodes in Season Three were as bad as Episodes 3-6 & 8-14 of Season Two (though again, I haven't yet seen Episodes 15-22 of Season 2).
That said, while I did indeed enjoy Season Three a great deal (and definitely liked it a lot more than what I've seen of Season Two), I still find myself in agreement with at least some of the criticisms of Season Three that have been made in this thread, in particular with some of the points that gun_haver has made below (and which have been echoed by others). While it seems like gun_haver may have liked Season Two much more than I did, and I may have liked Season Three more than he/she did, we nonetheless have some key points of agreement on Season Three's shortcomings:
Agreed. More frequent use of the existing OST would likely have gone a long way. I can understand the appeal of using certain tracks only once, but if they were able to make multiple uses (by my recollection) of 'Accident Farewell', it's not immediately clear to me why they couldn't have done the same with some of the other stellar tracks ('Heartbreaking', 'Dark Space Low', 'The Fireman', 'The Chair') from the OST.
I'm probably not as big a film buff as some folks around here, but Hirokazu Koreeda's Maborosi and Carlos Reygadas's Silent Light immediately come to mind as movies that I loved, which prominently featured static camera angles and long takes, and where the static camera angles and long takes actually had aesthetic, emotional, and thematic resonance; the similarly long takes in Twin Peaks often encouraged contemplation where the cinematography, dialogue, and level of thematic convergence were all comparatively underwhelming:
Robot Pants
Member
What disappointed me about the whole thing was:
the fact that David Lynch used Twin Peaks as a platform to make a statement about something. Or so it seems. Whatever it was, be it the state of tv or what have you, I found it very selfish that he used Twin Peaks to do it with. Use a separate project to do something like that please, not a beloved show that people were ecstatic to revisit when you announce the return 26 years later.
....I think you are totally wrong about his intentions. How can you watch those last two episodes a not think it was about laura palmer. Also the original was even more directly written to comment on the tropes of television...
Rien
Jelly Belly
Still have to rewatch the whole Season 3 but will wait for the blu-ray. Can somebody help me with the name of the OST at the final episode credits? It was the best thing i heared in the whole show..... besides the classical piece in ep 8, that was beyond real.
And rip to Harry.. very sad but he had a great run.
And rip to Harry.. very sad but he had a great run.
That's really interesting that you don't like the first chunk of season 2 - I really am wracking my brain as to what might be different in it. To me, from the pilot until episode 9 of season 2 it's one straight continuity in terms of quality, pretty much, with some peaks and troughs but generally 'very, very good stuff'.
Although yeah man - definitely watching the finale of S2. I watched Twin Peaks in a bit of a funny way - I watched until episode 9 of S2 because I heard it got bad after that basically because Lynch checked out at that point and also, the Laura storyline was resolved. So I figured the show was essentially over but limped along in a zombie form for the rest of the season. This actually is correct, for the most part.
I came back to it later when, y'know, I had nothing I wanted to see more than Twin Peaks and hell, I've got 12 episodes just sitting there. And it was bad. Very bad. I couldn't believe how quickly it went bad. Then as you get into the last few episodes, some signs of life start to come up. There's still bad stuff, but it seems to be going somewhere again. Then Dave comes back for the finale and it's just a great 2 hours with the thickest dose of dark wood atmosphere the show ever managed to pull off.
That's not getting into any specifics, but it was my experience with season 2.
The end credits song is called Dark Space Low
Art, how does it work?
Rien
Jelly Belly
Big Thanx!
Outside of the Roadhouse tracks, this was my favourite piece of music. Paired with Maclachan's facial expressions, it sends chills every time I rewatch the credits.
True Savior
Member
That's a really nice interview. Best quote to the mania people have to connect and find solutions in everything.
Also
lmao
Also
lmao
Corpsepyre
Banned
Started re-watching season 3. I still don't know when that scene with Hawk in the woods takes place in the second episode. That, and the scene where the curtains go off in the red room, and the camera moves into the nothingness, with the horse standing there, where you then hear electrical scratching and then back to Cooper/Mike, was that ever explained as to what was going on there? It happened after Laura flies off.
Tony Redgrave
Member
RIP Harry Dean Stanton and Catherine E. Coulson, both were great at acting and surely great people as well.
That EW interview with Lynch makes me hopeful of more TW, it will happen again again!
That EW interview with Lynch makes me hopeful of more TW, it will happen again again!
Just wrapped up season 3. Stuck with it for the most part, but just couldn't go week-to-week anymore so I had 5 episodes to catch up on.
It didn't take long before I was fast forwarding. (something I never do) Coop finally came back and things culminated in Twin Peaks, but it all felt like too little, too late. The use of old footage just made things more frustrating. And I absolutely loathed the constant LOUD audio mixing/screaming and no-eyes lady noises. None of it was unsettling or beneficial to atmosphere or whatever. It was just annoying.
Just a mess. The original run was a ton of fun. There wasn't much to be found here. This was closer to FWWM (which I don't particularly enjoy either) but far less focused. It didn't have to be 18 episodes and could've benefited from an editor (or rather a team of editors) that was willing to go against Lynch. Hell, even Gordon seemed to get more screen time than any other character and he only worked in the original run because he was done in small doses. Other returning characters felt like they had the personalities drained from them. New characters were largely nothing and went nowhere.
I enjoyed Coop losing his shoes as he went through the outlet and more subtly silly touches like that could've gone a long way. I enjoyed Mr. Jackpots. (the Dougie shtick shouldn't have lasted more than an episode or two, though) And Wally Brando was the goddamn MVP and felt like something straight out of season 2. Other than that I struggle to think of anything I found particularly entertaining. My experience alternated between annoyance, frustration, and boredom.
Rewatching seasons 1 and 2 won't be any less rewarding, but I'll never touch season 3 again. I hope it doesn't come back for a fourth season either because I know I'll torture myself with it even though it'll likely be more of the same.
It didn't take long before I was fast forwarding. (something I never do) Coop finally came back and things culminated in Twin Peaks, but it all felt like too little, too late. The use of old footage just made things more frustrating. And I absolutely loathed the constant LOUD audio mixing/screaming and no-eyes lady noises. None of it was unsettling or beneficial to atmosphere or whatever. It was just annoying.
Just a mess. The original run was a ton of fun. There wasn't much to be found here. This was closer to FWWM (which I don't particularly enjoy either) but far less focused. It didn't have to be 18 episodes and could've benefited from an editor (or rather a team of editors) that was willing to go against Lynch. Hell, even Gordon seemed to get more screen time than any other character and he only worked in the original run because he was done in small doses. Other returning characters felt like they had the personalities drained from them. New characters were largely nothing and went nowhere.
I enjoyed Coop losing his shoes as he went through the outlet and more subtly silly touches like that could've gone a long way. I enjoyed Mr. Jackpots. (the Dougie shtick shouldn't have lasted more than an episode or two, though) And Wally Brando was the goddamn MVP and felt like something straight out of season 2. Other than that I struggle to think of anything I found particularly entertaining. My experience alternated between annoyance, frustration, and boredom.
Rewatching seasons 1 and 2 won't be any less rewarding, but I'll never touch season 3 again. I hope it doesn't come back for a fourth season either because I know I'll torture myself with it even though it'll likely be more of the same.
Have any of you had the chance to talk with anybody who liked the original TP but wasn't otherwise a Lynch fan outside of that what they thought about the new season? I know a couple, and only one of them managed to sit through the whole season and he was not happy about the ending. Surprisingly the thing that seemed to bother him most was
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Trying to discuss what was going on in that final ep with someone who never watched any Lynch movie besides FWWM is not a fun conversation to have I can tell you.
This is easily the most aggressively divisive piece of television I've ever lived through.
This question in relation to anything regarding The Return is never going to have a "yes" answer.
the "pathetically dumb" death of BOB/Bad Coop in ep 17, which he said felt like a massive 'fuck you' from Lynch to anyone wanting some resolution on the plot.
Trying to discuss what was going on in that final ep with someone who never watched any Lynch movie besides FWWM is not a fun conversation to have I can tell you.
This is easily the most aggressively divisive piece of television I've ever lived through.
This question in relation to anything regarding The Return is never going to have a "yes" answer.
Every piece of art is about something real. The original Twin Peaks was about something real. What is the 'statement' of season 3 that you find so grating?
I mean, why even watch it at all if you're going to fuck with it like that? Just read about it on wikipedia if you're not going to actually watch it.
Let him do what he's gotta do. This is a trying 18 hours, especially for folks who don't normally watch stuff like this.
I've been saying a lot of negative stuff about the season on this page, all remain my opinion, but I do respect how much it just does not give a fuck about satisfying casual viewers at all. You don't ever see that kind of attitude in this format.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
I can't even imagine how awful a human you have to be to fast forward through a show
It's only "trying" if you've had your attention span completely destroyed by the internet and superhero movies.
Episodes 18 and 8 are the only ones that I can imagine being in any way "difficult". And that's only because they require the slightest amount of thought.
It's only "trying" if you've had your attention span completely destroyed by the internet and superhero movies.
Episodes 18 and 8 are the only ones that I can imagine being in any way "difficult". And that's only because they require the slightest amount of thought.
Come on, this stuff is uncalled for.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Man, I couldn't disagree more with this post.
And I don't think you can fairly critique it if you were fast-forwarding.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
No, it's pretty standard stuff. The idea you can fast forward through a film is stupid. If you care that little about it you should just stop watching.
I touched a nerve. Sorry, y'all.
I quit watching week to week because I was mostly bored at that point. An abundance of overly long scenes that offered little in the way of entertainment nor discernible advancement of the plot killed my willingness to keep up with it. I didn't fast forward up until that point, (nor can I remember the last thing I felt the need to fast forward through) but I knew I wanted to finish out the season despite not enjoying it much. When I seen it wasting my time again I just gave up and started skipping ten second intervals until stuff started actually happening.
I don't need a show to run through its plot at a breakneck pace or anything. Scenes like when Coop was found by the hotel attendant at the beginning of season 2 go on forever, but it's handled masterfully and makes me laugh my ass off. The stuff in season 3 just seems like it was done for David Lynch and no one else -- and either he didn't want to let anyone else in on the joke or there was never one and it's just masturbatory schlock. Either way none of it strikes me as particularly deep, meaningful, or worth pondering. It's just a mess of base, incoherent ideas that rarely sniff an "ah ha" moment, and when they do it's not at all clever.
But yeah, I'm sure fans of this would rather write me off as someone who didn't get it or whatever. I guess it's my fault for expecting something titled "Twin Peaks" to actually resemble Twin Peaks in terms of tone and characterization -- the two unique hooks the show had going for it beyond the original murder mystery. I wouldn't have even cared if it wasn't set in the town of Twin Peaks. I also wouldn't have even cared if it was a wholly new cast. But to take every returning character and (sometimes literally) drain the personality from them, seemingly go out of your way to put new characters on screen wth zero likability, and to shift away from the pervasive tongue-in-cheek playfulness of the original run is just too much man. (I feel like Lynch was exclusively relying on the Dougie arc to be this connective tissue, but it failed miserably and instead became a constant reminder of a better show)
I quit watching week to week because I was mostly bored at that point. An abundance of overly long scenes that offered little in the way of entertainment nor discernible advancement of the plot killed my willingness to keep up with it. I didn't fast forward up until that point, (nor can I remember the last thing I felt the need to fast forward through) but I knew I wanted to finish out the season despite not enjoying it much. When I seen it wasting my time again I just gave up and started skipping ten second intervals until stuff started actually happening.
I don't need a show to run through its plot at a breakneck pace or anything. Scenes like when Coop was found by the hotel attendant at the beginning of season 2 go on forever, but it's handled masterfully and makes me laugh my ass off. The stuff in season 3 just seems like it was done for David Lynch and no one else -- and either he didn't want to let anyone else in on the joke or there was never one and it's just masturbatory schlock. Either way none of it strikes me as particularly deep, meaningful, or worth pondering. It's just a mess of base, incoherent ideas that rarely sniff an "ah ha" moment, and when they do it's not at all clever.
But yeah, I'm sure fans of this would rather write me off as someone who didn't get it or whatever. I guess it's my fault for expecting something titled "Twin Peaks" to actually resemble Twin Peaks in terms of tone and characterization -- the two unique hooks the show had going for it beyond the original murder mystery. I wouldn't have even cared if it wasn't set in the town of Twin Peaks. I also wouldn't have even cared if it was a wholly new cast. But to take every returning character and (sometimes literally) drain the personality from them, seemingly go out of your way to put new characters on screen wth zero likability, and to shift away from the pervasive tongue-in-cheek playfulness of the original run is just too much man. (I feel like Lynch was exclusively relying on the Dougie arc to be this connective tissue, but it failed miserably and instead became a constant reminder of a better show)
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Plenty of new likable characters.
How could you not like the Mitchum Brothers? They have hearts of gold!
How could you not like the Mitchum Brothers? They have hearts of gold!
It's funny, when I was rewatching episode 4 or 5, the Mitchums just kick the shit out of the Casino Manager. Hearts of Gold, lol.
I think Dougie though changed them
Thank Dougie
he sure did. there was something kind in those boys from the start, but they were mean. once dougie comes into their lives, no more mean.
People are really upset about Audrey, huh? I can't say I missed her being promiscuous this season, which wouldn't have worked because of the passage of time, anyway.
thekenta
Member
Not everything is for everybody, that's okay.
Lynch did the only thing I expected him to do: Creating something bold and different than anyone expected.
The old Twin Peaks was the show that revolutionized TV, but these times have long passed, TV has evolved as an art form that can rival films nowadays.
Ultimately whether someone liked this new season or not, I'm pretty sure it will stand the test of time and will be seen as a classic many years from now.
The last two episodes moved me like nobody else in film or TV ever did, I can't put my finger on it or describe it in words, but no finale left me as speechless since the cut to black in The Sopranos. It was a nice run.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
She wasn't THAT bad. Just completely pointless and kind of creepy when you think about why she was included.
Edit: I would love to experience season 3 as a new viewer with limited/no knowledge of the original run. I'm curious how it would hold up.
