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[Ambient80]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

 

[Joeku]

The only shit Kathy Griffin should have gotten was that the photos came out a few days too early.

 

[Skinny Pete]

I'm sorry if I offending the people that didn't vote for this.

But fuck you, United States of America.

Just say fuck you GOP and Donald Trump. The majority of us didn't vote for this piece of shit.

 

[Netherscourge]

#URGENT: WH talking points on Paris accord: Trump’s "action today is keeping his campaign promise to put American workers first”

https://twitter.com/CarolCNN/status/870348214645522432

How exactly does this help workers?

What companies will be rolling back environmental regulations to hire more people?

 

[gatormatt]

Yeah I know, but the gerrymandering is going to help Republicans immensely, no?

As far as the senate goes, it's 1/3 of it is up for reelection every two years. I haven't looked which seats specifically though.

Yes, district lines are a problem for the Dems. But I won't underestimate the motivation that Trump is giving us Progressives.

 

[dickroach]

President Trump Makes a Statement Regarding the Paris Accord stream. starting at 3 EDT

 

[FTF]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

Hopefully this is the case but I don't know how it works :/

 

[benicillin]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

Yes they can probably recommit to the accords and get the country back on track but it does create an image problem for the US in future treaty negotiations if our election system makes our policy positions volatile.

 

[Obliterator]

I'm sorry if I offending the people that didn't vote for this.

But fuck you, United States of America.

The saddest thing is there are more people against Trump and his ideas than for him here. As was proven with the popular vote and his approval rate.

But we still totally fucked up and somehow ended with him in office and its a stain on the entire damn country and he's ruining us. Sad shit.

 

[KAOz]

America.

The Joke of a Land that keeps fucking up and being laughed out of the room at a world stage.

Seriously. How did Trump manage to turn a superpower into a laughingstock so fast? It's amazing.

I almost feel bad for you guys.

 

[jmdajr]

Up to the states to fight back.

Sadly I'm not in one of those. But hey, fuck the gulf coast right?

 

[SocksAndShoes]

Great news for coal workers nationwide. I'm sure all 6 of them will be ecstatic.

 

[Gaz_RB]

Gotta keep those campaign promises

 

[ultron87]

Does the 4 year exit timeline even mean anything since the whole thing is a non-binding thing about setting country wide goals?

 

[Rebel Leader]

Great news for coal workers nationwide. I'm sure all 6 of them will be ecstatic.

5... wait..4 no 3

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Even fucking Tillerson wanted him to stay in it!

That's because Tillerson knows the rest of the world doesn't continue to pretend coal is even relevant to discuss as a future energy source.

 

[darkwing]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

why would we, a poor country, follow the Accord, when the US won't even follow it

 

[RPGCrazied]

President Trump Makes a Statement Regarding the Paris Accord stream. starting at 3 EDT

The likes on that video. Yikes.

Social media was a mistake.

 

[paperboywriter]

Fucking hell, I don't know what to say anymore

 

[Ampersands]

From an outside perspective, the US must be seen as a more irrational actor than goddamn North Korea. The Paris Accords that we were so onboard for less than a year ago is just tossed aside with a simple changing of the guard.

 

[hydruxo]

What a piece of shit. He's literally only doing this because he wants to undo everything Obama did. Nothing else matters for Trump.

 

[Ambient80]

Yes they can probably recommit to the accords and get the country back on track but it does create an image problem for the US in future treaty negotiations if our election system makes our policy positions volatile.

Yeah, that's true I guess. Why believe the US about their commitment to things if next election some asshat will just reverse it out of spite? Sigh...

 

[shem935]

Does the 4 year exit timeline even mean anything since the whole thing is a non-binding thing about setting country wide goals?

Not really. It just succeeds in pissing off allies. If a dem is elected in 2020 then they can go right back into it.

 

[gatormatt]

Yeah I know, but the gerrymandering is going to help Republicans immensely, no?

As far as the senate goes, it's 1/3 of it is up for reelection every two years. I haven't looked which seats specifically though.

Also, I think alot of millennials learned the hard way what happens when you don't do your Civic duty and get out and vote.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

All trump supporters need to be stripped of their rights to vote if/when trump goes down for treason/collusion/obstructive of justice.

fuck the constitution. the founding fathers couldn't have imagined this much stupidity to exist.

 

[Aselith]

What fucking "Deal" do they think they are going to get?

The same one but made by Trump not Obama

 

[hitme]

Rest of the world, we got you.

- California

 

[mnz]

Interesting thing going on right now: the trending hashtag "ActOnClimate" is bombarded by cimate change denying right-wingers:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ActOnClimate

What I'm interested in is: is this new? I feel like this way of thinking was a minority even within conservatives, but now even young alt-righters buy it? That climate change is a hoax or a hustle or scam for some reason?
This is actually the scary part for me. It looks like there is a movement that is ready to throw everything overboard if it fits a narrative. That won't go away with Trump either. They can spin ANYTHING if they can spin this.

 

[Sölf]

Is there anything worse Trump can still do? I mean, he fucks over the entire planet with this. What could be worse?

 

[Chained Prometheus]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

It's a matter of trust.

Trump refusing to honor the agreement made the Obama administration sends the message to other countries that they can't rely on the US as their actions can potentially change drastically at any given time, depending entirely on who happens to be President.

Also, no way in hell Trump makes it to four years at this rate. Even if he's not impeached or doesn't resign, his poor health is likely to bite him in the ass before he makes it through the whole of his first term.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

Yes of course, but what other countries are ever going to listen to us for at least a decade if there's always another Trump waiting in the wings? The GOP was cheering for this shit too.

Also, no way in hell Trump makes it to four years at this rate. Even if he's not impeached or doesn't resign, his poor health is likely to bite him in the ass before he makes it through the whole of his first term.

Pence, or whichever Republican nightmare takes Trump's place, will just stay true to leaving in honor of Trump or some bullshit.

 

[QuantumZebra]

All this because he hates a black man that outdid him in life.

Yup.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

I mean, if Trump gets beaten in four years and a Dem takes office (or even funnier, a moderate Republican primaries him and wins), couldn't they just rejoin the accord and it's not too big a deal? Or is it likely to now totally fall apart because we're not joining?

We can certainly try, but the fact that we would even get in this mess in the first place puts our future credibility in question. Who wants to rely on a country that can potentially lose its sanity every 4-8 years?

 

[Dazzler]

global laughing stock

 

[Xando]

The sad thing about this is democrats will stop leaving in 2020 and idiots will vote the GOP back into power in 2024 to withdraw again.

 

[Skinny Pete]

This better wake the people up on the sidelines who didn't vote. Of course it won't but it's time to make some fucking real noise as citizens who don't agree with this monsters policies.

 

[Metalingus5150]

Rest of the world, we got you.

- California

What's California doing?

 

[spekkeh]

Cheeky Republican fucks. Of course it won't take four years, but four years from now there are elections where Americans can choose for immediate economic prosperity, or the Democrats tanking the economy for a trillion dollars in name of some far away climate scare.

 

[Obliterator]

Interesting thing going on right now: the trending hashtag "ActOnClimate" is bombarded by cimate change denying right-wingers:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ActOnClimate

What I'm interested in is: is this new? I feel like this way of thinking was a minority even within conservatives, but now even young alt-righters buy it? That climate change is a hoax or a hustle or scam for some reason?
This is actually the scary part for me. It looks like there is a movement that is ready to throw everything overboard if it fits a narrative. hat won't go away with Trump either.

Its not new at all. The Republican Party has been filled with climate denial for decades

 

[RDreamer]

Interesting thing going on right now: the trending hashtag "ActOnClimate" is bombarded by cimate change denying right-wingers:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ActOnClimate

What I'm interested in is: is this new? I feel like this way of thinking was a minority even within conservatives, but now even young alt-righters buy it? That climate change is a hoax or a hustle or scam for some reason?
This is actually the scary part for me. It looks like there is a movement that is ready to throw everything overboard if it fits a narrative. hat won't go away with Trump either.

I've literally never met a right winger in real life that believed in manmade or human influenced climate change. Not a single one.

 

[KurtFehl]

Is there anything worse Trump can still do? I mean, he fucks over the entire planet with this. What could be worse?

Honestly, this is the #1 worst thing he could do. Aside from launching nukes.

This doesn't just affect us, it will forever affect future generations.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

How exactly does this help workers?

What companies will be rolling back environmental regulations to hire more people?

It helps workers because it shows he keeps campaign promises. Duh

Not like he or his supporters would know the difference anyway

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

The climate-change pact is more popular than Trump – and the senators who oppose it

The most recent Gallup poll, taken May 21-28, put Trump’s approval rating at 41 percent. In contrast, a May 4-9 Quinnipiac University poll found that 65 percent of Americans said Trump should not remove “specific regulations intended to combat climate change.”

In addition to being more popular than Trump, the Paris Agreement also has higher favorability than the Republican senators who called on him to scrap it.

 

[paperboywriter]

America.

The Joke of a Land that keeps fucking up and being laughed out of the room at a world stage.

Seriously. How did Trump manage to turn a superpower into a laughingstock so fast? It's amazing.

I almost feel bad for you guys.

Don't feel bad.

 

[Steeped in a Sea of Games]

I really wish that the minute the words left Trump's lips that someone would walk up and slap him across the face. Then as he's cowering on the ground, everyone just took turns spitting on him.

 

[Oersted]

We can certainly try, but the fact that we would even get in this mess in the first place puts our future credibility in question. Who wants to rely on a country that can potentially lose its sanity every 4-8 years?

The next Democratic President has certainly the Nobel prize on lock

 

[GeordieMark]

For a guy who talks an awful lot about bad deals, I'm yet to see him make a good one.

This is the dumbest, most arrogant move Trump has made to date and is frighteningly short-sighted, unless he's about to stun us all by revealing an even more ambitious and far-reaching proposal. But I'm not about to bet a whole penny on that.

 

[GRaider81]

I don't really know the ins and outs of the Paris accord but could individual states still adhere to it unofficially?

 

[John Rabbit]

Right. So all the panic here seems pretty overblown.

This is Trump withdrawing from an agreement that we as a country will probably follow anyway without being told to, just to look like he's a friend to the coal workers.

Nobody is panicking. I don't think I'm about to walk outside to a torrent of acid rain.

The problem is his willful ignorance about jobs (coal isn't coming back, oil is bleeding profitability by the day, the renewable energy industry is growing at 12x the rate of any other sector in the U.S.) and how this positions the U.S. for future negotiations with other nations. He's literally abdicating our position as a world leader because of his tiny ego and a payout that he only has 10-15 years left to enjoy anyway.

I don't really know the ins and outs of the Paris accord but could individual states still adhere to it unofficially?

The short answer is yes. The long answer is you'll just have a micro-version of what we're already seeing here; deep red states with a history in the fossil fuel industries refusing to change.

 

[base_two]

How does not being a participant in the Paris accords prevent the US from being in solar, wind, fusion, etc?

I also wonder how many people here know what the Paris accords are. If you actually read them, you would realize they don't really say or do much. Its essentially an agreement by everyone that they will try to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, with no enforcements or penalties or anything.

Because the general trajectory, heighten by this move, puts the US in reverse politically when it comes to supporting climate change initiatives. IMO, the private sector's pace towards renewable energy is not at all adequate to compete on the world stage and to meet any reasonable goals.