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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/11/...ing-video.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

The New York Times has published security footage that changes the narrative regarding Michael Brown's alleged robbery at a convenience store. According to the footage, he had already exchanged marijuana for cigarillos early that morning and left them there for safekeeping. Mike Brown never robbed that store.

What's more, police saw the footage, and willfully withheld the information within.

In the two and a half years since Michael Brown, a black 18-year-old, was shot and killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., the explosive case has been parsed in intricate detail. Witnesses offered varying descriptions of the fatal encounter. Investigators examined bloodstain evidence on the street where Mr. Brown died. And the police released a security video from a nearby store that showed Mr. Brown pushing a worker and taking cigarillos minutes before the shooting.

But a second, previously unreported video from that same convenience store included in a new documentary is raising new questions about what happened in the hours before the shooting on Aug. 9, 2014.

The footage shows Mr. Brown entering the store, Ferguson Market and Liquor, shortly after 1 a.m. on the day he died. He approaches the counter, hands over an item that appears to be a small bag and takes a shopping sack filled with cigarillos. Mr. Brown is shown walking toward the door with the sack, then turning around and handing the cigarillos back across the counter before exiting.

Jason Pollock, a documentary filmmaker who acquired the new tape, says the footage challenges the police narrative that Mr. Brown committed a strong-armed robbery when he returned to the store around noon that day. Instead, Mr. Pollock believes that the new video shows Mr. Brown giving a small bag of marijuana to store employees and receiving cigarillos in return as part of a negotiated deal. Mr. Pollock said Mr. Brown left the cigarillos behind the counter for safekeeping.

”There was some type of exchange, for one thing, for another," Lesley McSpadden, Mr. Brown's mother, says in Mr. Pollock's documentary, ”Stranger Fruit," which premiered Saturday at the South by Southwest festival in Austin, Tex., and examines the shooting from the family's perspective.

The St. Louis County Police Department briefly mentioned Mr. Brown's early-morning visit to the store in a lengthy report on the case, which tipped Mr. Pollock off to the existence of an additional video.

Sgt. Shawn McGuire, a spokesman for the county police, said in an email on Saturday that footage of the earlier encounter had not been released because it was not relevant to the investigation.

Bullshit it wasn't relevant.

Fuck this lying PD. They murdered and defamed this kid based on fucking nothing.

EDIT:

But Jay Kanzler, a lawyer for the convenience store and its employees, strongly disputes that version of events, and said the new footage is unrelated to Mr. Brown's later visit to the store.

”There was no transaction," Mr. Kanzler said. ”There was no understanding. No agreement. Those folks didn't sell him cigarillos for pot. The reason he gave it back is he was walking out the door with unpaid merchandise and they wanted it back."

And since pot was involved, the store is lying to cover their ass.

 

[Frozenprince]

Man I for one sure am shocked that he was murdered in cold blood by a police officer because of the color of his skin and nothing more.

Shocked I tell you.

Even more shocked that it's just now coming to light, when it can be released and lost in the media frenzy of a post Trump America.

 

[Derwind]

Sgt. Shawn McGuire, a spokesman for the county police, said in an email on Saturday that footage of the earlier encounter had not been released because it was not relevant to the investigation.

The reason behind why Browns death was supposedly justified & sanctioned by the Police is not relevant huh?

Well...

That and the superhuman acrobatic lunging skills of your everyday black man.

 

[sphagnum]

I remember the store owner or manager or whoever insisting that Michael had not robbed them and cop defenders saying he was just saying that to protect his store.

Well then.

 

[commedieu]

So he was just high on his life of crime/reefer dealing. Got the madness, then attacked a cop and tried to take his gun.

I've seen it a dozen times johnson.

 

[theWB27]

Fucked up the department won't be taken to task for blatantly obstructing an investigation. He black though so fuck it...just another one off they radar.

 

[LionPride]

How about that

 

[Frozenprince]

Waiting out literal rioting in the streets to prevent any sort of actual justice.

I'm arguing the spirit and nature of Justice in another thread here.

This spits on it.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

He touched marijuana though, that makes him literally Hitler. He's lucky that brave cop only shot him.

 

[Phobophile]

He touched marijuana though, that makes him literally Hitler. He's lucky that brave cop only shot him.

Imagine this shit now with Sessions as AG.

 

[Strike]

So it was all bullshit. Of course.

Imagine this shit now with Sessions as AG.

I'm dreading it. Especially Trump.

 

[- J - D -]

That changes a lot. "Not relevant" my arsehole.

 

[Link]

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Seriously, fuck cops. Biggest group of thugs in this country.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

Are you saying they may have lied and killed a completely innocent man?!?! Sir I do not believe you. Not one bit. There's just no way.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Man I for one sure am shocked that he was murdered in cold blood by a police officer because of the color of his skin and nothing more.

Shocked I tell you.

Even more shocked that it's just now coming to light, when it can be released and lost in the media frenzy of a post Trump America.

After seeing the footage of the tattooed cop beating a guy for not resisting and pointing his Gun at pedestrians, I'm not surprised at anything anymore. It's human psychic to assume the world revolves around you, but these guys need better nursing than telling them it's okay to be trigger happy once in a while. Sad affair of life that will never change until guns are gone.

 

[F0rneus]

No fucking shit. Of course the cops lied and bullshitted. And this'll change nothing for the apologists. Cops er' right! Always!

 

[Machina]

Shockednotthatshocked.gif

Seriously, fuck cops. Biggest group of thugs in this world.

FTFY

 

[Nepenthe]

Shall I take a trip through earlier Mike Brown threads to see who was self-righteous in their vindication of Brown's deserving of death due to the robbery narrative, or should I just shrug my shoulders at this revelation and keep it moving?

 

[KarneeKarnay]

Ffs. I've been stuck through a blender emotionally on where I stand with on supporting the police. On the one hand, Cops have a job that I would never do. Its tough, awful and you are exposed to the worse of humanity. On the other hand, they are in a lot of cases totally unable to handle the responsibility and authority needed to be in the position.

I recently spent some time looking into Ferguson and the history of the state when it come to segregation. The only conclusion I can come to is that the Ferguson PD and to a degree even the legislative branch are corrupt. Disband the whole thing, fire all the officers, start from scratch.

 

[Vicetrailia]

I would expect no less ESPECIALLY from the super racist Ferguson police.

 

[akira28]

Shall I take a trip through earlier Mike Brown threads to see who was self-righteous in their vindication of Brown's deserving of death due to the robbery narrative, or should I just shrug my shoulders at this revelation and keep it moving?

It would be a catharsis for some of us. But would they learn anything? No. No they fucking would not.

 

[Frozenprince]

It would be a catharsis for some of us. But would they learn anything? No. No they fucking would not.

Tempted to go through and pull receipts for those still among us and posting to answer for.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

So fucked up. Not relevant. How in the?.. just
.... What!? I'm sure all the LEO defenders will be silent on this one.


Edit: I spoke too soon.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

I shouldn't be this mad at 5 in the morning.

Not relevant. It changes the whole he was a bad guy narrative completely you sick son of a bitch. Fuck you and anybody that loves you.

 

[jabuseika]

Are you saying police will do anything to cover each other up.

 

[Bold One]

Don't worry you guys, the Police department will carry out a very independent investigation on itself, in which it would find itself completely not guilty of any wrongdoing, but rest assured, the officer in question will be temporarily suspended with pay.

It's not only important that justice is one, it is important that justice is seen to be done.

 

[Kite]

I remember the store owner or manager or whoever insisting that Michael had not robbed them and cop defenders saying he was just saying that to protect his store.

Well then.

My memory is hazey, but OP's article seems to disagree.

But Jay Kanzler, a lawyer for the convenience store and its employees, strongly disputes that version of events, and said the new footage is unrelated to Mr. Brown’s later visit to the store.

“There was no transaction,” Mr. Kanzler said. “There was no understanding. No agreement. Those folks didn’t sell him cigarillos for pot. The reason he gave it back is he was walking out the door with unpaid merchandise and they wanted it back.”

 

[Secret Fawful]

My memory is hazey, but OP's article seems to disagree.

They don't want to say their employees were involved in pot.

 

[EdibleKnife]

I shouldn't be this mad at 5 in the morning.

Right? I can already feel the same fury I had when this was a hot topic welling up in me. Dawn's about to break and here I am reading this and holding myself back from ripping my apartment apart.

People ignored DoJ reports, exposes on this city's legislature and law enforcement, everything that showed how rotten Ferguson was just to demonize Brown. I really just want to march this in front of every "No Angel" trumpter that existed on GAF and beyond.

 

[theignoramus]

But Megyn Kelly said Ferguson PD only cracked racist jokes over emails, it wasn't anything more serious than that.

 

[sazzy]

I remember the store owner or manager or whoever insisting that Michael had not robbed them and cop defenders saying he was just saying that to protect his store.

Well then.

From the article, and left out of the OP:

But Jay Kanzler, a lawyer for the convenience store and its employees, strongly disputes that version of events, and said the new footage is unrelated to Mr. Brown’s later visit to the store.

“There was no transaction,” Mr. Kanzler said. “There was no understanding. No agreement. Those folks didn’t sell him cigarillos for pot. The reason he gave it back is he was walking out the door with unpaid merchandise and they wanted it back.”

 

[Derwind]

But Megyn Kelly said Ferguson PD only cracked racist jokes over emails, it wasn't anything more serious than that.

Well being told your actions/words come off as "racist" for some is worse than literal racism.

So I can imagine those same people will look at unjust murders of a black people and see it as no worse than cracking a joke.

 

[TheOddOne]

But Jay Kanzler, a lawyer for the convenience store and its employees, strongly disputes that version of events, and said the new footage is unrelated to Mr. Brown’s later visit to the store.

“There was no transaction,” Mr. Kanzler said. “There was no understanding. No agreement. Those folks didn’t sell him cigarillos for pot. The reason he gave it back is he was walking out the door with unpaid merchandise and they wanted it back.”

Yeah no, that video shows otherwise.

Sgt. Shawn McGuire, a spokesman for the county police, said in an email on Saturday that footage of the earlier encounter had not been released because it was not relevant to the investigation.

He added later that he could not confirm the video’s authenticity.

What.

 

[Brakke]

This whole robbery thing was a nonsense red herring in the first place. Don't murder people in the street over nothing.

From the article, and left out of the OP:

Why would they admit to a federal crime going down at the store? It's not like the truth is gunna un-murder Mike Brown.

 

[Usobuko]

Did they release this video now because they know it's safer in post election Trump's administration climate?

USA only deserves respect if you're one of ruling skin, gender, sexual orientation, religion class combined.

For the rest of the people from all over the world, it's silly to feel proud of a country that deems you as second class. Your misguided nationalism and cultural pride ain't worth shit, just another money bag to them.

 

[theignoramus]

Well being told your actions/words come off as "racist" for some is worse than literal racism.

So I can imagine those same people will look at unjust murders of a black people and see it as no worse than cracking a joke.

That horrible woman was one of the main voices in media that justified his shooting. She was a leader of that retroactive lynch mob.
But even if he had robbed the store, one of the key witnesses the defense lawyers used in the Wilson trial was a racist as fuck White woman who had a documented history of anti-Black behavior.

 

[Brakke]

Did they release this video now because they know it's safer in post election Trump's administration climate?

No. The answer to this question is in the OP.

 

[gcubed]

From the article, and left out of the OP:

So this guy who went on a superhuman rampage, when confronted by store employees still behind the counter telling him to stop stealing is to turn around and put the stuff back and say "my bad"

 

[theignoramus]

So this guy who went on a superhuman rampage, when confronted by store employees still behind the counter telling him to stop stealing is to turn around and put the stuff back and say "my bad"

Also, why didnt Mike Brown then get his plastic bag back?

 

[Apt101]

Did the older clerk/owner know about this? I'm guessing that he didn't since he wasn't present in the first video.

So Michael returned for his stuff and apparently ended up having to take it by force. So the older guy called it in.

All the responding officer hears is "robbery suspect, black male, x feet tall, red hat, etc". And how would the responding officer have known of this video at the time? Or anyone in law enforcement?

The police should have disclosed this video, but I don't see how this changes anything.

 

[The Gorby Congressmanz]

It was wrong for this video to be hidden and the damage has been done on people thinking he was a robber.

However there's still the numerous autopsy saying he didn't get shot from the back.

 

[Secret Fawful]

From the article, and left out of the OP:

It's right there in the article for anyone to read. I left it out of the OP because it's a fucking lie contradicted by the video.

If you want, I'll put it in the OP with a header saying "the store is lying to cover their ass."

This proves the police withheld evidence and lied, but people are still flocking in to say "but the autopsy" as if it proves Wilson's story. Just come out and say you think he was a "thug" and no amount of evidence will change your mind or get you to question the police narrative.

 

[TAJ]

My memory is hazey, but OP's article seems to disagree.

You know you're easy to fool when someone makes a claim that is directly contradicted by the specific piece of evidence you just saw and you still believe them.

 

[Easy_D]

Man I for one sure am shocked that he was murdered in cold blood by a police officer because of the color of his skin and nothing more.

Shocked I tell you.

Even more shocked that it's just now coming to light, when it can be released and lost in the media frenzy of a post Trump America.

Shit son, it might even be celebrated in a post Trump America :/

 

[OG Shaka Zulu]

The way this kid's soul was abused on a national level is a disgrace. It angers me to no end when people around me want to declare racism as not too important of an issue in this country.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

I don't think it's relevant to the shooting but it is relevant to the character assassination that was done on him to influence public opinion.

 

[sangreal]

From the article, and left out of the OP:

The video is in the article. Watch it

 

[samn]

Reflects very badly on the police department, but doesn't really change the facts of the shooting, which is that Wilson shot Brown in self defence.

If you want to use individual cases to push forward a narrative about the treatment of black people by police in America, fine, but you might as well find some better ones.

I shouldn't be this mad at 5 in the morning.

Not relevant. It changes the whole he was a bad guy narrative completely you sick son of a bitch. Fuck you and anybody that loves you.

He reaches into a police car for a gun and he's not a bad guy?

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Nvm

 

[Mahonay]

Shit is sad.