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Super Mario Run Review Thread
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Exsactly!!! People are actually getting upset over a game that you need to be online for from a smartphone which you pay for data every month.
Is this being reviewed by the standards of previous Mario games or by the standards of current mobile games?
It looks sub-par on the first count, but a home run on the second.
This is paranoid nonsense. You have no proof as to who these people are.
It looks sub-par on the first count, but a home run on the second.
This is paranoid nonsense. You have no proof as to who these people are.
Council Pop
Member
Could the posters who are saying "there are loads of quality premium mobile games like this" please actually name some, which aren't ports?
People on here say the same thing as an argument as to why dedicated handheld gaming is dying out but... I just don't see it.
For bonus points- they have to be linear games with levels and steady progression, rather than 'go for the high score' puzzlers and endless runners like Threes or Canabalt.
And they have to be something other than Around the World in 80 Days, Monument Valley and the GO series.
What are you talking about?
People on here say the same thing as an argument as to why dedicated handheld gaming is dying out but... I just don't see it.
For bonus points- they have to be linear games with levels and steady progression, rather than 'go for the high score' puzzlers and endless runners like Threes or Canabalt.
And they have to be something other than Around the World in 80 Days, Monument Valley and the GO series.
What are you talking about?
test_account
XP-39C²
Have anyone checked how much data it uses each hour yet?
Top grossing of all time, or?
Diablohead
Member
WiFi only iPads and iPod touches, means someone like my brother can't play on our iPad while in the car, stuff like that.
Omega Kirby
Member
Oh boy here we go
Chaos Rings 1, 2, 3 and Omega
Implosion Never Lose Hope
Crashlands
Deemo
Cytus
Reigns
Sorcery 3 and 4
Sword and Sworcery
Siralim 2
Riptide GP: Renegade
Gemini: A story of two stars
Lifline: Whiteout
Samarost 3
Skyhill
The bug butcher
DeuceGamer
Member
I've played both and while I like the Rayman Jungle Run a lot I think I like Super Mario Run more. I like the Toad Challenge to compete and I don't remember that in Rayman. I also like how they re-hide the coins making the levels replayable.
Edit: to be completely fair it's been a long time since I played Rayman Jungle Run so may not be the best comparison
List, from the very beginning, invalidated with Chaos Rings 1
StereoVsn
Member
That was perhaps the best line in the thread. The insanity and salt is kind of off the chart.
I thought the game itself (at least the free levels) was fine. I am not huge fan of constant running but it's not too bad here and seems there are lots of things to do and replay. I don't really like the fact it's free with the purchase unlock in app since that means I couldn't share it with kids and always online sucks for metro commute.
That said for someone without need to do sharing or underground commute the game seems just fine with a fair price. 2D Mario for 3DS is $25 on sale right now at BestBuy with GCU so $10 is not bad. Plus I would think Nintendo is very likely to keep updating the app so iOS upgrades are less of a concern.
StereoVsn
Member
Aren't 1-2 and Omega not working on iOS 9 and above? (could be 8). Also, none of those are a platformer.
I'l take that challenge.
Exclusive to mobile? Like, can't be played on other platforms even if a mobile port was developed simultaneously?
Kingdom Rush series
The Executive
Autumn Dynasty
Space Marshals
Xenowerk
Hopiko (started on mobile)
Icycle
Gasketball
Sunburn
Badlands 1 and 2 (started on mobile)
Wayward Souls (started on mobile)
Vanquisher
Super Cat Tales
Inks
Sproggiwood
King Rabbit
Templar Battleforce
Crown Takers
Crystal Siege
Battlelore Command
Super Stickman Golf
Five Card Quest
Warhammer 40k: Deathwatch
Implosion
Stephen Universe - Attack the Light
Rayman Runner Games
Framed
Shark Eaters
The Room series
Skulls of the Shogun (started in mobile)
Door Kickers
Warbits
And that's just conforming to your very narrow criteria. That doesn't include RPGs like Ember, a slew of roguelikes, board games with rich campaigns, a lot of 4x strategy games, sims like the Kairosoft games, whatever the hell Crashlands and Drylands are, and, yes, lots of indies that can also be played on PC. etc.
Of course, there are lots of ports. You can get games like Legends of Grimrock, XCOM EW, FTL, Dungeons of the Endless, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Titan Quest, Rome Total War, This War of Mine, Desktop Dungeons, Severed, Steamworld Heist, Papers, Please, and tons more for $10 or less.
Omega Kirby
Member
It's true the Chaos rings 1 is the weakest in the series but it's still a decent premium game for the right price.
I assumed he meant premium games in general
Council Pop
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There's some decent stuff there, also some poor stuff (Sword and Sworcery was truly crap imo), but they're still all pretty slight indie games, sort of low level Steam stuff (and most of these have released on Steam too).
Yeeaahhhhh ok, I agree up to a point. A lot of this stuff really feels cheap though, like somewhere between Facebook games and free flash games, even if the gameplay is innovative or fun. Shame we don't see stuff like Stardew Valley or Undertale on mobile- games like that would convince me to take the format a bit more seriously.
I'm sure IGN reviewed things like Infinity Blade or Angry Birds.
Anyway everybody was talking about Mario, it was announced during the Apple event, it's the first Nintendo game on iOS after all these years. Of course they will publish their reviews because people are interested.
Omega Kirby
Member
A premium game is a premium game no matter how much is it's production value, some of the games I listed could be released full price on the 3DS or Vita and no one would bat any eye. (In fact some of them were ported to Vita, like deemo and Chaos rings, so that speaks volumes of their quality)
You mean cheap like recycling the same NSMB assets for the umptienth time?
I updated the list with a few more and added a nice list of wetsern ports, too. Could add more but the app store is down for me and my brain can't remember everything.
Council Pop
Member
I think people would definitely bat an eye if Sword and Sworcery (or any of those games) was released at retail for £35. For £5 on the eShop probably not, although it would pale compared to similarly priced games such as Fairune and BoxBoy
Well, look at Planar Conquest. The game is massive, a really strong 4x fantasy strategy game that has gotten constant updates to improve the game.
It launched at $14 on iPad and now it's $10.
It's $25 on Steam and $30 on PSN.
As mobile 4x games go, there's very little that measures up to its size and scope. On Steam it's a middling game for its genre.
Thank you all for listing those games by the way. I've been looking for more games that were designed for mobile after I finished Kingdom Rush. Triple Town is neat but I'm really not looking for something so bite-sized and inconsequential right now.
The reason they have that style is because they're designed for a tiny screen that you interact with with your fingers. Thick lines and big sprites work best on the platform.
Rodney McKay
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This game seems to have better replay ability of the levels with different characters (all Raymans different characters play the same if I remember right they're just skins), different coin placement, and ghost trials.
BUT in Rayman Jungle Run, and Fiesta Run especially, you collect all the things in a level and unlock a whole new harder level, so there are a TON of levels (at least in Fiesta, I forget how many Jungle has).
I've been playing Fiesta Run casually for ages so it was a great value for me (you can get both games for the price of Mario with extra to), but they are more fast paced reactionary Runners compared to Mario's slower pace.
Kingdom Rush and Kingdom Rush Frontiers are both on Steam (which is actually how I first played the series).
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Play as Toad, he runs faster and requires different timing than Mario. He's more comparable to Rayman.
... Ive only been playing for a couple of hours. Its not as good as Rayman, but its still real good. That Mario charm and music makes it a real good package and the Toad Run is a lot of fun,
BravesCountry
Banned
The only time I play mobile games is when on the subway so yeah it's pretty disappointing that it's always online.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I typically leave my data off unless I need to use it, and in theory there is no reason I should need to use the internet for SMR.
I understand it's for piracy reasons and I can't get mad at any company for finding a way to make sure people don't pirate their products, but it still sucks. It just means I'll probably play it less than I would otherwise.
Please list some good mobile Roguelikes. I have no idea where I would start looking and would love a game or two like that on my phone.
The first game was a browser game in July 2011. The mobile version released in December 2011. I think it's been primarily viewed as a mobile series, tbh.
Regardless, the list is plenty big and that's just what I've played.
More_Badass
Member
How many have you played them? Your previous comment seemed like it was asking what games are there, but this sounds like you already know of them
And that list doesn't even include stuff like Device 6, Dream Quest, Prune, A Dark Room, Hero Emblems, Imbroglio, 868-Hack, Love You To Bits, and others
Hoplite, 868-Hack, Imbroglio, Nightmare Cooperative, Swap Sword
Binding of Isaac is either coming next week or next month, and will be able to played in portrait
More_Badass
Member
What does that even mean? What qualifications does one need or to review a Mario auto runner?
A good game is a good game regardless of who it's for (which is clearly everyone in this case)
Any evidence to this?
More_Badass
Member
For both games, the two versions were developed together, releasing a few weeks apart
knightfolk
Member
There is a good shot, that your family has a plan with hotstop use included. Problem solved is that is the case.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Fabtacular
Member
Feel like this game is worse than the Rayman runner games.
So disappointed.
So disappointed.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That tired schtick...
What schtick? It's a 7! When's the last time a proper, EAD developed Mario platformer got anything less than a 9?
TheDinoman
Member
NSMB2?
More_Badass
Member
A review score has more to do with the individual reviewer's enjoyment than the game's quality
But either way, it's a ridiculous position since you're taking one score to make a broad statement
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Why are you comparing this to a "proper ead mario game"?
That's crazy.
It's a runner mobile game for less than $10. Dont compare that to a full fledged mario game, come on.
That's the precedent you want to invoke?
But you would agree review scores are important in gauging how good a game can be, right?
KratosEnergyDrink
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I don't think there is a need for reviews for games like Angry Birds or Magic Alchemist. Everyone can try them for free. Furthermore there is no reward in reviewing mobile game number 16547843, no one will read the review anyway. Many want to read about Mario Run, obviously.
More_Badass
Member
He's not talking about those games
Actually, the funny thing is that the big sites that will mention mobile games are PC sites. Which makes sense since mobile and PC are quite similar platforms, and the majority of ports on mobile are PC games. RockPaperShotgun praised Device 6, Hoplite, Dream Quest, The Room, 80 Days, Sorcery, and others
Although to be fair, the big sites will review the mobile games that get major acclaim. IGN reviewed Device 6 and Monument Valley, Eurogamer has covered mobile games, etc.
Well if you cherry pick for reviews like you did to continue your weird shtick, all of them.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Thank you. I'll check those out.