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ESPN's Amin Elhassan makes fun of WWE wrestler Kevin Owens's autistic, 8-year-old son

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even in the most straightforward context, this seems like some low hanging fruit for an adult to mock a kid being happy for his dad. Then again this guy apparently uses the branding #HateHard so I'm guessing this is his persona?
 
BronsonLee said:
I feel my tweet on the situation was appropriate
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Advertising your own tweets?
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Aaronrules380 said:
This is a fine arguement for the guy being a dick, I still think bringing the kid's autism into the equation in the first place is also somewhat offensive in its own right
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I can see how responding to someone saying "lol that kid thinks wrestling is real" with "he's autistic", as if his autism somehow precludes him feel understanding what a non-autistic child does, could be perceived the wrong way in the first place. His autism had nothing to do with it.
 
geomon said:
Well that's the old stigma. People outside of wrestling fandom think wrestling fans are either too stupid or ignorant to realize that it's scripted.
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Sometimes it kinda does feel that way.

I remember reading some crazy ass posts when the rock won the belt.
 
I agree, "wrestling is fake" jokes are dumb but there isn't anything really cruel or damaging here. There isn't an attempt to make fun of Owen's son or autism.

Maybe I was expecting more.
 
ThisGuy said:
I just don't see how this is offensive. Wrestling is scripted, and it is funny how kids believe it isn't.

Aside from asking whose autistic, the father or son, which was uncalled for given the kid is autistic. I just don't see the big deal.
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That

Right there

That exact thing

That's the big deal, and totally crossed a line he shouldn't have ever crossed.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
I can see how responding to someone saying "lol that kid thinks wrestling is real" with "he's autistic", as if his autism somehow precludes him feel understanding what a non-autistic child does, could be perceived the wrong way in the first place. His autism had nothing to do with it.
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My point exactly. I have no idea how high or low functioning an autistic this kid is, but I get annoyed when people act like all autistic people are low functioning and incapable of understanding stuff like this. If he was 7-8 years older I could maybe understand a bit better, but I honestly don't expect most 8 year old normal kids to understand that wrestling is fake
 
jmdajr said:
Some people still think pro wrestling being a work is some kind of insider thing. We have known for fucking YEARS! They just assume everyone that watches doesn't get it and is an idiot.

If we are talking about bad taste then I got nothing. This is not high brow entertainment. And I'm ok with that.
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After the New Generation and Attitude Eras of professional wrestling how can't you immediately tell it's fake? Undertaker becomes a supernatural being who can control lights, become impervious to pain, and fucking teleport. Steve Austin can kidnap and threaten his boss without getting fired and ever face any real criminal charges. The entire Dungeon of Doom storyline happened. And they tried to make you believe HHH was a draw. All of that shit is so amazingly fake it's obvious.
 
The most disappointing thing about the situation is people not being able to recognize a soft-ball joke like that. There was no reason to bring autism into it. The joke wasn't about the kid, it was a jab at pro wrestling.

Recognize he's taking a jab at pro wrestling, and brush it off.
 
He tried to make a joke on the expense of putting down a kid with autism and failed miserably.

Is this guy like a comedy relief figure on ESPN? apperantly he sucks really bad if so.
 
When I was 7 I thought The Rock legit died after he was beaten by two people with steel chairs for 5 minutes.

Kids are gullible is what I'm getting at.
 
UnemployedVillain said:
Guess the millions of people tweeting about Santa being fake are also being incredibly petty.
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Yeah? If someone was tweeting that over a kid becoming extremely emotional over seeing santa, of course. Otherwise, who the hell tweets about Santa being fake out of the blue? The context matters. This dude is a prick.
 
Sephzilla said:
After the New Generation and Attitude Eras of professional wrestling how can't you immediately tell it's fake? Undertaker becomes a supernatural being who can control lights, become impervious to pain, and fucking teleport. Steve Austin can kidnap and threaten his boss without getting fired and ever face any real criminal charges. The entire Dungeon of Doom storyline happened. And they tried to make you believe HHH was a draw. All of that shit is so amazingly fake it's obvious.
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I don't know man.
 
I've never been a fan of Amin, the only thing he brings to the True Hoop podcasts are semi-hot takes, that rarely ever have any hard data behind them. I know he's supposed to brings some entertainment value to the show but he often comes off as trying to hard to be funny.
 
FallingEdge said:
The more annoying thing is talking about how you can't get emotional over something fake. That is absurd.
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I felt no emotion watching Breaking Bad whatsoever.

I don't really get upset anymore when someone calls wrasslin' fake. I just think it's a weird thing to point out.
 
Also, Amin is a moron.

Just because wrestling is scripted doesn't mean shit. Even if it's scripted, this makes Kevin Owens WWE's man. Being champion also gives an obvious pay boost. Being champion may be fake, but the responsibilities and money that comes from it aren't. Kevin Owens wrestled in fucking high school basketball gyms and crap. Worked his ass as an indie wrestler and has a family to feed. Hell yeah his son is happy his dad basically got a promotion.

I feel like critics of wrestling don't understand wrestling. Even if you know wrestling is "fake", any dipshit with a brain would know that being champion carries a certain responsibility and is basically the company telling you that you're their guy. You go on talk shows, you have to sell the product. You get a massive pay raise, you're (hopefully) the reason people pay to see win (or get beaten up). Your goal as champion is to make the company money. This is the equivalent of laughing at a kid who's happy his dad got promoted from burger flipper to manager.

TLDR Amin and "wrestling is fake" people, on this subject, are fucking morons.
 
excelsiorlef said:
He's the first one to use it as a insult....
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This is true. But just because the defenders didn't mean it as an insult doesn't mean it was right to bring autism into the equation at all. As a high function autistic myself, I honestly find it offensive the way the defenders brought it up as if other kids that age wouldn't be likely to think wrestling was real. They may have had good intentions, but I think the way some of them phrased it can also be harmful to people on the spectrum who aren't low functioning, since it creates the idea that because they have autism, they're a less functional human being
 
RBelong2Us said:
at the expense of the kid with autism....how is that hard to see? lol

It didnt start out that bad at all but the guy kept going like he legit didnt know when to just stfu and stop.
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Again, not seeing how the autism comes into play before the wrestling fans bring it up. Dude would have made the same comment even if the kid didn't have autism.
 
Cindi Mayweather said:
Also, Amin is a moron.

Just because wrestling is scripted doesn't mean shit. Even if it's scripted, this makes Kevin Owens WWE's man. Being champion also gives an obvious pay boost. Being champion may be fake, but the responsibilities and money that comes from it aren't. Kevin Owens wrestled in fucking high school basketball gyms and crap. Worked his ass as an indie wrestler and has a family to feed. Hell yeah his son is happy his dad basically got a promotion.

I feel like critiques of wrestling don't understand wrestling. Even if you know wrestling is "fake", any dipshit with a brain would know that being champion carries a certain responsibility and is basically the company telling you that you're their guy. You go on talk shows, you have to sell the product. You get a massive pay raise, you're (hopefully) the reason people pay to see win (or get beaten up). Your goal as champion is to make the company money. This is the equivalent of laughing at a kid who's happy his dad got promoted from burger flipper to manager.

TLDR Amin and "wrestling is fake" people, on this subject, are fucking morons.
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#HateHard
 
Cindi Mayweather said:
Also, Amin is a moron.

Just because wrestling is scripted doesn't mean shit. Even if it's scripted, this makes Kevin Owens WWE's man. Being champion also gives an obvious pay boost. Being champion may be fake, but the responsibilities and money that comes from it aren't. Kevin Owens wrestled in fucking high school basketball gyms and crap. Worked his ass as an indie wrestler and has a family to feed. Hell yeah his son is happy his dad basically got a promotion.

I feel like critiques of wrestling don't understand wrestling. Even if you know wrestling is "fake", any dipshit with a brain would know that being champion carries a certain responsibility and is basically the company telling you that you're their guy. You go on talk shows, you have to sell the product. You get a massive pay raise, you're (hopefully) the reason people pay to see win (or get beaten up). Your goal as champion is to make the company money. This is the equivalent of laughing at a kid who's happy his dad got promoted from burger flipper to manager.

TLDR Amin and "wrestling is fake" people, on this subject, are fucking morons.
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Amin covers the NBA you would think he'd understand the concept of "sports-entertainment".
 
Aaronrules380 said:
This is true. But just because the defenders didn't mean it as an insult doesn't mean it was right to bring autism into the equation at all. As a high function autistic myself, I honestly find it offensive the way the defenders brought it up as if other kids that age wouldn't be likely to think wrestling was real. They may have had good intentions, but I think the way some of them phrased it can also be harmful to people on the spectrum who aren't low functioning, since it creates the idea that because they have autism, they're a less functional human being
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This reads like "if you don't want me to make fun of autism, don't tell me your kid has autism."

Which is an asshole mentality.
 
Silver Arrows said:
Gee, being the butt of every joke on the internet gets on your nerves after a while.

FOH with this outrage culture horseshit.
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I have autism and I think the people who turned it into a "but the kid is autistic" are also very much in the wrong and incredibly condescending in their own right.
 
One time on a schoolbus another kid was talking shit to me so I started talking shit to him and it went back and forth until he made a joke about my mom, I decided made a joke about his dad in response and the entire bus got dead silent.

It turned out he watched his father drown a month earlier. I had no idea

This is kind of like that.
 
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