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Sonic Mania (8-15-2017, SEGA/Taxman/Headcannon/PagodaWest, PS4/XB1/PC/NX)
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IceDoesntHelp
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Looks stunning, and it's in good hands with Christian Whitehead and co. Android18a
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Opposite of me, to be honest. Visually this is exactly 100% what I want Sonic to look like. It's classic low res sprites, but not held back in the way of many 'retro' style indie games. This is full on, wonderfully animated, beautifully coloured and expertly pixelled sprite and tile work that is perfect for the 2D Sonic formula.
I literally couldn't be happier with the visuals. Much, much rather this than graphics like Mighty No 9, the Rocket Knight sequel or Sonic 4.
JimiNutz
Banned
Yeah I much prefer this style over the Sonic 4 look but at the same time I'm disappointed to see that they didn't do something to retain the art style but make the game look less like something made in the 90s.
Couldn't they have put a little bit more into the graphics to make it stand out from any other fan project/hack?
SkylineRKR
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Absolutely. The chances with an overhaul are that its going to feel and look completely off like Sonic 4 did.
Now I did like how Sonic 2 Fan Remix looked, but it might've been too bloated and also felt a bit off. Still, nothing captures the Genesis feeling better than the style they went with for Mania.
Mithos
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I'd love for it to be high res pixelart.
On a low resolution CRT screen it probably will look great (or a HD-CRT), on a 1080p+ pixel based display it will IMO look "bad".
efyu_lemonardo
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Thanks! Are those available on Steam?
Tizoc
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^Someday it will!
BELIEVE!
Blue Sphere? I believe there is a mod to have it running on the PC ROMs.
BELIEVE!
Blue Sphere? I believe there is a mod to have it running on the PC ROMs.
efyu_lemonardo
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That's great too but I was actually asking about Sonic R and 3D Blast
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Personally, I don't want that at all. Not right now.
1. The original graphics are appealing to me as an old schooler, but more than that, they communicate to me that the physics and gameplay are intact to the originals. In that sense it does the exact thing that Mega Man 9 did. I look at it and instantly know everything about the intention of that game. It aims to give me a classic experience that plays as the originals did.
2. Modernized redrawing of classic artwork can work in a classic game revival, but it almost never does. The gaming landscape is littered with HD Sprite redraws and 2.5D reimaginings of classic games, and they're almost uniformly terrible. It's not that they couldn't possibly nail it, but it'd be the exemption to what 20 years of 8/16-bit updates have tended to deliver. We have examples of what happen when they try: Sonic 4. Street Fighter II HD Remix. New Super Mario Bros. At best, it's serviceable. I'm certainly NOT hoping for another effort like those.
It's not a rule for me. I'd be open to seeing an HD update try. But to immediately lament that this is classic style and not an update? You're not in the same world as me for hoping that. I'm actually grateful that for once, they didn't bother with their shitty graphical "update". That's the norm for revivals like this actually, and they're usually awful.
Tizoc
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3D Blast Genesis ver is on Steam.
Spieler Eins
Member
Looks really good, but I hope there's enough new stages. Not liking that there's Green Hill Zone copied in...
We have direct feed footage of what the game will look like on a modern display. It looks great.
What happened with Dimps? Up until Sonic Rush Adventure (2007), their Sonic was output was solid. Other games too. Then everything except for Colors DS was pretty bad, including non-Sonic stuff until like the okay Xenoverse.
NSMB is far more than serviceable, the others, sure.
NSMB is far more than serviceable, the others, sure.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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I hope this gets a boxed release, looks sweet.
SinCityAssassin
Member
It's because Sega gave it to a fan developer instead of fucking it up themselves.
Yeah, I kind of agree. I loved the look of the original Genesis games just fine, but like you said, with the new animations and such, it does feel like a rom hack almost.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Let's go with just "serviceable". That series is not generally regarded as a looker (outside of the underused Van Gogh Starry Night aesthetic in that Wii U level)
nkarafo
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wtf is this shit?
That's the worst thing i listened to for a while.
God, i hope the level themes are not as cringy as this...
Edit: Ok it was a joke video.
I think they're trying to evoke the 32-bit Sonic game that never was. Judging by the Knuckles Chaotix colour palette and additional animation frames.
Not to defend the NSMB aesthetic per se, but NSMBW (with a good, scalable T.V.) and NSMBU are actually quite decent looking.
Android18a
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio
Try a 15 minutes extended version of the Studiopolis zone music <3
Mr. Smiley
Member
That's a joke video.
Siivagunner uploads joke vids under the guise of an official rip
See: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rEcOzjg7vBU
That's a joke based off of the rather disastrous reveal stream. That's not going to be how it sounds.
(When anyone links you a youtube video by Silva Gunner, always check if its a lower case L or an upper case i)
KojiKnight
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Looking forward to a few years from now when everyone says that Sonic Mania is also bad, and that (upcoming retro inspired 2D sonic) will finally bring Sonic back to prominence... So many Sonic fans chasing a dream game that doesn't and never will exist.
nkarafo
Member
DICKS AHOY
Banned
People loved the rest of what Taxman has done with the franchise so far and the reasons why the 2D Sonic's post-Rush aren't good has repeatedly been explained.
Mania bar some sort of weird interference by Sonic Team this is going to be tits.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
Taxman and Stealth's excellent offerings in both the Sonic/Sonic 2/Sonic CD ports and modding community have, in my eyes, made them the safest pair of hands for delivering a Classic Sonic game fans will enjoy. They know Sonic inside and out, from both a technical and creative perspective.
TheDinoman
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Ah, a naive peasant that has yet to be to be graced by the Grand light of SilvaGunner and their High-Quality Game Rips™.
CrAzY FiNgErS
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I believe Taxman has already created Sonic 3 & Knuckles in his engine. For whatever reason Sega hasn't let him release them on iOS or Android. It's been said over and over, but Sonic 1,2, 3 & Knuckles remasters should be on console and PC. His Sonic CD remaster made it to console and PC, but the others have not yet. So after Mania comes out they need to reconsider releasing the original trilogy to console and PC.
Japanmanx3
Member
I dig it.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Reminds me of the city level music from Unleashed
Unreal Champ
Banned
That's Nintendo's problem, not Sega.
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