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Sonic Mania (8-15-2017, SEGA/Taxman/Headcannon/PagodaWest, PS4/XB1/PC/NX)
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Sir_Crocodile
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So watching that footage, it looks like we're getting sonic 3/&k style secret giant rings for the special zones:
Guessing they disabled it as they're not ready to show special zones (or they're just not done yet).
I'm happy about this, searching for giant rings was one of the best new things about 3, and by far my favouite way to access the special zone.
That's been one of Sonic's major problems. It just keeps going onto new things. With Colors and Generations, it seemed like they finally got a grasp of the 3D Sonic gameplay by ditching everything else and focusing on it. Then, with Lost World, they just really failed the game mechanics with horrible level design. I know people say the opposite, but there's not a lot of times when you can use the mechanics provided to you in that game.
It also didn't help that Lost World brought back older 3D Sonic games' bad ideas of long levels whereas Colors/Generations cut down level length by half while providing extra challenges.
Azure Dream
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Dat SoR homage at the start (0:06)
Cool, I wouldn't have caught that one.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I really am so excited for this.
Unfortunately that means I need an Xbone.
*record scratch*
What you say? Why not just get it on my PS4?
I kinda leaned leaned in hard on that "Xbox is the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast" thing and got all my Sega stuff on the Xbox lineage. It hasn't failed me yet, getting every one of the major (non-Nintendo) Sonics... plus the d-pad is very Genesis-like.
Nerd world problems.....
Unfortunately that means I need an Xbone.
*record scratch*
What you say? Why not just get it on my PS4?
I kinda leaned leaned in hard on that "Xbox is the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast" thing and got all my Sega stuff on the Xbox lineage. It hasn't failed me yet, getting every one of the major (non-Nintendo) Sonics... plus the d-pad is very Genesis-like.
Nerd world problems.....
Valkyri von Thanatos
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Agreed. I'd buy it immediately.
Thanks for showing me that there's some more great Sonic music out there! Now I wish they were involved too ;(.
Lol, Mania is still a dream come true though.
I agree that innovation must be secondary to refinement, but big leaps have to happen sometime. Still, with SEGA, it seems like they've screwed themselves too often by trying to "innovate" badly, so in their case I think it is really good they are seemingly prioritizing refinement. I have to admit I was somewhat hoping to see them get creative with Project 2017, but who knows how that would have turned out, so what we got seems to be a safer and better option.
I'm also a bit disappointed the first level is Green Hill, and that there are hints that more if the game could be remixes. While I'll probably like the remixes they do (the boss background, gameplay and music all impressed), I want as much to be new as possible. That's why I hope this just has their personal favorite levels remixed and 80% of the game is new.
Maybe make it tie into the narrative by instead of having Sonic just randomly be back in those levels and those times, instead have it appear that time has passes since he last visited. Like Angel Island Zone has been burned down but is regrowing and we see that in the stage remix.
(Oh, and about Sonic CD, was there tons of slow down on the GameCube and PC (pre-Taxman) versions? I don't remember that.)
I've tried Megamix before and I think I have to agree, which is why I said before the Megamix guy may want to start fresh with this game. Take what he's learned and use it to build everything from the ground up, rather than trying to build note and more onto something with a rough foundation.
So watching that footage, it looks like we're getting sonic 3/&k style secret giant rings for the special zones:
Guessing they disabled it as they're not ready to show special zones (or they're just not done yet).
I'm happy about this, searching for giant rings was one of the best new things about 3, and by far my favouite way to access the special zone.
I noticed that too and posted about it on the last page. They look pretty different so I'm inclined to think the special stages are new too. That gets me excited.
Like most of Mania.
SonicMegaDrive
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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In the lower parts of Studiopolis you can see trains speed by in the background with interesting graffiti written on their sides:
All the references! Oh yeah, electric shields are back, as been in that TSSZ video! Can't wait, if this is at least 70% new it'll be incredible.
Are the before/after the sequel people involved as well? Where is everyone getting this information from?
Agreed, that was my feeling as well. Glad Project 2017 seems to be going for refinement over innovation.
Yes. Knuckles is so under-appreciated. My biggest hope is Project 2017 is like this and has Tails and Knuckles playable as well. Don't make Knuckles stupid too SEGA, please.
An early part of the stream, with everyone as sprites had Amy run past and I thought that was hinting at Amy as being playable as well. I'd be into that, as long as she wasn't just "slower Sonic". No one beyond that though, keep it to the classic characters, at least for Mania and similar projects.
I.. Think that's pretty foolish, to buy a console just for that. But do what you want.
There was not.
The PC version actually ran poorly on anything less than a decent Pentium back in the day but it's fine now (if you can deal with its Win95-ness). The ports to GC and the like were of the PC version. That said, the PC version has some minor presentation issues that I never liked.
texhnolyze
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Why does it have to be classic pixel art?
They could make a classic 2D Sonic game with a better 2D graphics, right?
Like this, at least.
They could make a classic 2D Sonic game with a better 2D graphics, right?
Like this, at least.
Azure Dream
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Can't remember which video (GameSpot or TSSZ), but I think I saw the Steel Ring/Combi-Ring item set between two Ring Boxes, as well.
The one from Knuckles Chaotix that would drop your rings as a singular ring that you could grab back all at once:
The one from Knuckles Chaotix that would drop your rings as a singular ring that you could grab back all at once:
SkylineRKR
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Holy shit this is a new Genesis style Sonic game by Taxman?
Fuck Sonic Cycle, I have faith in this.
Fuck Sonic Cycle, I have faith in this.
Sumio Mondo
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So Sonic Team aren't making any Sonic game for the anniversary? Disappointing.
SonicMegaDrive
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Blecch. I'm content with the 16-bit direction they've gone with. That looks stiff and lifeless by comparison.
Sir_Crocodile
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I'd be hyped for entirely new special zones. 3's are my favourite, but I'm not sure my heart could take them any more when you've collected most of the orbs and they get super fast lol.
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They're doing the 3D one.
This one looks far better though
...but they are making another 3D game.
lazybones18
Banned
Day 1?
DAY FUCKING ONE
DAY FUCKING ONE
It's coming to PC though. Maybe I'm wrong but it doesn't look like you'll need too powerful a computer to run this.
More offscreen footage.
Green Hill Zone looks legit.
Spacious yet complex. Think CD, but better flowing and less congested.
Edit: News suggests more reimagined levels: Sonic 2, 3, CD, &K.
Green Hill Zone looks legit.
Spacious yet complex. Think CD, but better flowing and less congested.
Edit: News suggests more reimagined levels: Sonic 2, 3, CD, &K.
SonicMegaDrive
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Likely not. That's how I plan on playing it. I have absolutely zero interest in owning an Xbone or PS4, so PC it is.
Dragon1893
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OMG! What an awesome thing to wake up to!
But how do you reconcile Shenmue 3 is PS4/PC? only so far
Shenmue was THE game meant to highlight the epitome of Dreamcast.
texhnolyze
Banned
It's SEGA's job to bring life to it.
I never like 3D Sonic games.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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I really want a retail release Please sega
Sir_Crocodile
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Looks fantastic. The more I see of mania, the more hyped I become
Jonneh3003
Banned
I'm a little confused why past stages are in this game.
FeenixRising
Banned
I'm holding out hope they throw in some of the Sonic 2 lost levels.
I know Genocide City Zone as a snowballs chance in hell of making it, but Dust Hill Zone and Wood Zone plz.
I know Genocide City Zone as a snowballs chance in hell of making it, but Dust Hill Zone and Wood Zone plz.
SonicMegaDrive
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I think it's just Green Hill. It starts off just like the original but becomes completely different as you play it. It's not the exact same old stage layout.
This. SO IN!
Jonneh3003
Banned
This is so nice to watch, most people playing seem very mediocre at Sonic games.
Cave Johnson
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Why can't they do this https://youtu.be/ZxXycBv3Rlk instead?
Sir_Crocodile
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not a fan of that style myself. don't like the nsmb aesthetic either.
OrbitalBeard
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The post on the PS Blog confirms it's a digital download. Nothing said about a physical release.
SonicMegaDrive
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Isn't that more or less what Sonic 4 did, with the ugly pre-rendered look and all?
Because it looks like ass compared to this game?
That vid aged poorly :/ Doesn't look that good anymore.
Not sure Taxman & Co could do a 3D game, their thing has been 2d sprites so far. This is not a big budget game.
lazybones18
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Give us Star Light Zone and Hill Top Zone!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Oh I'm not buying an Xbone for one game. I'm also buying it for Sonic Generations 2.
Did you think I was saying it was rational? I'm crazy! And really, it's more that I buy all consoles anyway.
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