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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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LookAtMeGo
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I do love me a good dog fight though. I hope Rogue One delivers in spades.
Not so much that it was confusing, but the film portrayed an impression that the Resistance was on the backfoot facing anhilation. My quick read of Star Wars wiki shows that the Resistance is small within the New Republic?
The political aspect of Star Wars is really interesting, a bit more explanation and context in film would have helped.
Bobby Roberts
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That's not what they meant by mess. They weren't talking about the editing from scene to scene. They were talking about the number of ships in the frame, and the varying degrees of ability to discern who was doing what and where. They thought the actual dogfight part of the dogfight was cluttered and incomprehensible.
Which is wrong.
Count Dookkake
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Anyone else suspect that we'll get an uncut release before this leaves theaters?
Might address some of the rushed elements and would definitely get audiences to return.
Might address some of the rushed elements and would definitely get audiences to return.
Dork Knight
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I loved the movie, but I only really had one compliant: Why did Captian Phasma so easily submit to Han and the crew? No fight? No resistance? Just, "OK, sure, I'll turn the shields off."
Then what happens to her? She just disappears? I thought this was a missed opportunity because they built her up to be a badass, but she doesn't really do anything. She should have been the Stormtrooper fighting Finn with the battle baton. That would have established her as a threat. Oh wellz!
Then what happens to her? She just disappears? I thought this was a missed opportunity because they built her up to be a badass, but she doesn't really do anything. She should have been the Stormtrooper fighting Finn with the battle baton. That would have established her as a threat. Oh wellz!
Pops Maellard
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How is this super reaching? It would take literally seconds to isolate that bit of dialogue.
Doesn't seem to fit with the puppy dog personality they seemed to be going for with BB8.
Rey really really needs to not be related to anyone important in the Star Wars universe.
It would make her and Kylos relationship to each other that much more dynamic. This dude feels entitled to his power being who he is, then to have have some nobody come through being that much stronger than him and his masters attention being focused on her. Could be really good.
I really enjoyed Kylo Ren and his motives/character.
It would make her and Kylos relationship to each other that much more dynamic. This dude feels entitled to his power being who he is, then to have have some nobody come through being that much stronger than him and his masters attention being focused on her. Could be really good.
I really enjoyed Kylo Ren and his motives/character.
PeskyToaster
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Adam Driver was a great choice. I love how he is as a villain. It feels very different from theOT and OT style villains. He's basically a much better executed Anakin when he turned. Ren actually feels threatening and filled with rage, yet vulnerable.
Yeah, I sort of forgot that after a few minutes.
Another thing I really liked was how dorky Rey and Finn were at times. Also really enjoyed the melee fight between that enhanced Stormtrooper and Finn. He be like: " Come at me, bro."
Absolutely badass.
Please, that Droid had sass in spades and he disliked Finn at that point in the movie...
Malakhov
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Rey is not a Kenobi because she's a Solo. Thought it was obvious.
How Leia holds Rey in her arms, as she knows her.
How Solo asks her name and after she reponds Rey, acts all weird and offers her a job.
How Kylo acts with her, how he says to her (dont remember the exact words) 'We will be together, you dont need Han Solo'
And I think she was dumped on that planet because they failed with Ben (Kylo) and were scared it would happen with Rey.
Rey = Anakin's light side
Kylo = Anakin's Dark side
They are twins.
How Leia holds Rey in her arms, as she knows her.
How Solo asks her name and after she reponds Rey, acts all weird and offers her a job.
How Kylo acts with her, how he says to her (dont remember the exact words) 'We will be together, you dont need Han Solo'
And I think she was dumped on that planet because they failed with Ben (Kylo) and were scared it would happen with Rey.
Rey = Anakin's light side
Kylo = Anakin's Dark side
They are twins.
SparkleMotion
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She was thrown into a trash compactor on a planet that then blows up. I'd say it's pretty clear what happened to her.
They say she will be in the next movie but they can't be that stupid after they took a shit on her character here.
WadiumArcadium
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For lowering the tone of our intellectual discussion of a space fantasy film of course.
That's true. Don't really have a problem with it though - I think it was due to a mix of Ren being injured and also still acting somewhat immature. He prioritizes dicking around rather than getting shit done (dont recall if this is the way it played out - need to watch it again)
Though, "getting injured" most of the time feels like a cop out excuse for any supervillain to underperform in any movie
Not a chance. She's far too young and people would have recognized her. Leia/Han would not have given up their child to be deserted on a junkyard.
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Yeah, I sort of forgot that after a few minutes.
Another thing I really liked was how dorky Rey and Finn were at times. Also really enjoyed the melee fight between that enhanced Stormtrooper and Finn. He be like: " Come at me, bro."
Absolutely badass.
About that weapon, it kind of confirms that they have fought other light-saber users no? That thing could block the light saber.
SparkleMotion
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Yeah, I sort of forgot that after a few minutes.
Another thing I really liked was how dorky Rey and Finn were at times. Also really enjoyed the melee fight between that enhanced Stormtrooper and Finn. He be like: " Come at me, bro."
Absolutely badass.
That trooper knew who he was. He called him a traitor. I would have liked a scene before Finn goes to save Poe where he's talking to this trooper he winds up fighting, expressing doubt of being a Stormtrooper. This dude would be all "nah" and then want to fight him later for being a traitor.
CrichtonKicks
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They are NOT twins. Irrespective of the actor's age differences, how does Han not know he has a daughter? Assuming he's not there for the birth, Leia keeps it a secret for what reason?
jufonuk
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George Oscar Bluth II
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If there are any big dogfights in VIII, I hope they don't make the same mistake. Gimme all the wings.
Anyone know who the old guy poe was meeting in the beginning?
I was thinking that he seems to be like Ben in ANH watching over Rey.
Would make sense considering he had the final piece of the map to Luke. Maybe he was entrusted to watch over her and guard the map and then pass it along when the time was right.
I was thinking that he seems to be like Ben in ANH watching over Rey.
Would make sense considering he had the final piece of the map to Luke. Maybe he was entrusted to watch over her and guard the map and then pass it along when the time was right.
she wasn't thrown in a trash compactor. They most likely made that joke and then locked her up somewhere.
Being put in a trash compactor must be a super gruesome death. They're not that cruel. It was just Han Solo kidding around.
SparkleMotion
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I bet they've had training for it, since they knew Luke was still alive. As far as actually fighting others with lightsabers, no way.
She'll be in the next movie...
Yeah, this is almost certainly what was going on.
SparkleMotion
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Captain Phasma was turned into the Johnny Sasaki of Star Wars in this movie. They might as well have a scene in the next movie where she goes to confront the heroes but flees because she has explosive diarrhea.
Given how she gets tossed (which sucks because it was off-screen), I'd love to see a comedically drunk, existential crisis Phasma like a Comodore Norrington in the Pirates of the Carribean sequels.
LookAtMeGo
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My buddy I was just talking to had a theory that Rey is for sure Lukes daughter. The reason she is on Jakku is because Luke wanted her to have the same surroundings growing up as him so that she turned to the light side the same way he did. Her finding the lightsaber and returning it to him was all part of his plan and part of her training.
He said the Force always will find balance so the reason Kylo turned to the dark side was because Luke had destroyed Vader and Palpatine so the dark side found Kylo to restore that balance. He isolated himself so that the light would guide Rey to him...
I can buy it I suppose.
He said the Force always will find balance so the reason Kylo turned to the dark side was because Luke had destroyed Vader and Palpatine so the dark side found Kylo to restore that balance. He isolated himself so that the light would guide Rey to him...
I can buy it I suppose.
Arrowgigantic
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Finn has had some training. He was a rookie stormtrooper, but he was still trained enough to be sent on a mission. He faced off against that other stormtrooper who had the saber-proof stick (that's a well-prepared fella, lol). It's not like that trooper wasn't trained how to swing, so why wouldn't Finn have some skill, too? Plus Finn's special in some way as evidenced by his ability to overcome being indoctrinated since birth and be a good guy. The force awakening had some effect on him.
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Yeah it felt to me like a scene had been cut, possibly one involving a correctional officer after Phasma gets him checked.
Darth Karja
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They don't even look close to the same age.
i think Malakhov meant "Han knows he has a daughter and didn't know he was standing in fron of her until she told him her name"
That'll work if Han and Leia had given Rey away and wouldn't want to know where she would be sent to. But she were to keep her birth name.
I don't believe she's their daughter. Han wants to drop Finn and her off, right before Kanji club and those other dudes boarded his ship.
And Leia pretty much told Finn "yeah, no, i know they took your friend, but we can't really go and save her, sorry"
LS² ... Luke Skywalker Simulation!
They didn't really do a good job of showing us the villains escaping. If you weren't paying attention to Snoke telling Hux to escape with Ben, you possibly could have missed knowing that they survived. It isn't that shocking some people think Phasma is dead, they never showed her again after she was (presumably) thrown into the garbage shoot. We know she's alive, of course, because JJ has already told us she'll be coming back but..
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That is exactly what is wrong with the prequels.
They stop the space adventures for C-Span.
Their mission was to exterminate Luke. It makes sense they would attempt to train stormtroopers to fight using a weapon that can stand up to a light saber. Could be why Finn was somewhat competent with the lightsaber due to his stormtrooper baton training.
Haha.
I've seen all four seasons so I knew what we were getting into when they casted Driver.
He's psychotic in that show too. Perfect casting IMO.
mugurumakensei
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I'm inclined to say Rey is Luke's daughter(Kylo's cousin) or her parents had no Jedi lineage. The third option is she's Kylo's master's daughter before his fall.
I kinda am genuinely interested in some politics right now, especially since five planets get fucked up this time.
The the main problem of political parts in the prequels was that they covered the most throwaway shit ever.
Jacksinthe
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YO that's clipping :OHad some guys down in cyber crimes enhance the footage:
Definitely. They're part of a squad hunting Luke Skywalker. They'd have to be trained to take him down. Which explains how Finn even stood a chance against Kylo Ren. He had some Stormtrooper training.
#teamHermioREY ... muggle daughter!
Don't worry, it'll be fixed in the special edition re-release.
I liked it. It's much like how you'd think Vader would be a monster behind the mask, but once he takes it off in RotJ, we see that all the power of the dark side has just left him as a sad old man.
Welp, there goes that SFX dude's family.
He's apparently called a "riot control stormtrooper." So that's what that's for. Very convenient that it repels lightsabers, though.
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