If you feel guilty that's on you. No one is trying to make you feel that way.
By all means, spread the message. But do it in a way that does not interfere with the lives of others who have done nothing. Do it in a way that does not involve doing the same kinds of things you are protesting against. It's pretty simple.
Explain what they should be doing then, please.
Interfering in the lives of others works.
So tired of blm already. They're not doing anything but hurting their cause
Believe me, I don't. Because I have not done anything. But tactics like this are clearly shaming people for being white and it's ridiculous.
By all means, spread the message. But do it in a way that does not interfere with the lives of others who have done nothing. Do it in a way that does not involve doing the same kinds of things you are protesting against. It's pretty simple.
Glad we've cleared things up and don't have to beat around the bush with a #WarOnCops and #WarOnChristians. All white people are being persecuted you guys!
This is just an isolated incident with supposed supporters who turn out to also be rude douchebags. They shouldn't be seen anymore as the face of legit BLM supporters, same as you shouldn't use ISIS as the face for Muslims.So tired of blm already. They're not doing anything but hurting their cause
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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"In spite of my shattered dreams of the past, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause, and with deep moral concern, serve as the channel through which our just grievances would get to the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed. I have heard numerous religious leaders of the South call upon their worshippers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers say, "follow this decree because integration is morally right and the Negro is your brother." In the midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churches stand on the sideline and merely mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard so many ministers say, "those are social issues with which the gospel has no real concern.", and I have watched so many churches commit themselves to a completely other-worldly religion which made a strange distinction between body and soul, the sacred and the secular.
So here we are moving toward the exit of the twentieth century with a religious community largely adjusted to the status quo, standing as a tail-light behind other community agencies rather than a headlight leading men to higher levels of justice."
If a side group is engaging in misogyny then the core group needs to distance, disavow, and dismantle them.I know right how dare those uppity negroes fight for the right to be treated as humans.
I'm tired of people like you that never gave a fuck about the movement and don't know shit about the movement and what they have accomplished but take every opportunity to try to shit on them because some side group that uses the name might have done some dumb shit.
Believe me, I don't. Because I have not done anything. But tactics like this are clearly shaming people for being white and it's ridiculous.
I believe in peaceful protest in accordance with freedom of speech. Not acts like disrupting the lives of innocent people by blocking traffic and attacking innocents at a library with racial name calling. That is not going to win any support.
Not on me it doesn't. I have not done anything and I am not going to have anything forced on me. But I'll be happy to listen and even throw in my support if you also respect my space and rights.
Glad we've cleared things up and don't have to beat around the bush with a #WarOnCops and #WarOnChristians. All white people are being persecuted you guys!
Quoting for the new page because it went unnoticed. It's the original report the Washington Times sourced.Google cache of the Dartmouth Article:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...test/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
Should probably be added to the OP
Not on me it doesn't. I have not done anything and I am not going to have anything forced on me. But I'll be happy to listen and even throw in my support if you also respect my space and rights.
This sounds terrible. I'm sure there were people saying the exact same thing as you during the civil rights movement.
Yep. It's time.
It's time for me to introduce to everyone... Martin Luther King Jr!
But he's been brought up a million times already, you say? Nah, that's MLK, he's a lot like that special version of Jesus conservatives love.
Here's a taste of Martin Luther King Jr.
They shouldn't be considered representative but people are people.This is just an isolated incident with supposed supporters who turn out to also be rude douchebags. They shouldn't be seen anymore as the face of legit BLM supporters, same as you shouldn't use ISIS as the face for Muslims.
Why not protest like this at, say, an Ace Hardware store in a notoriously racist southern town? This is like preaching to the choir. Except the choir is trying to work at the moment and they're making people that were/are supportive of the cause upset. Who's to say those students weren't BLM supporters themselves that had an exam the next day? I mean, just because someone chooses to study a few hours doesn't mean they disagree with BLM or are not active in their own way. This just shows stupidity in my opinion. I'm sure you'll disagree. I'm sure I'll disagree. But there's my two cents.
So protest in a way that you can easily ignore? So you would have been pissed at MLK?I believe in peaceful protest in accordance with freedom of speech. Not acts like disrupting the lives of innocent people by blocking traffic and attacking innocents at a library with racial name calling. That is not going to win any support.
White people that actually support BLM will understand that the inconvenience is necessary.
White people that actually support BLM will understand that the inconvenience is necessary.
I support BLM and think this excercise was stupid, relatively pointless and ultimately counter productive....assuming the reports are credible.White people that actually support BLM will understand that the inconvenience is necessary.
People understand time and place. The protesters took care of their student affairs earlier in the day to protest knowing they wouldn't have time to study while taking part in the protest. Now they're annoying people who didn't have the chance to study before the library was overrun.
Should we have a moment of silence for all of the poor white people whose educations were destroyed by the radical race baiting thugs of #BLM?
Should we have a moment of silence for all of the poor white people whose educations were destroyed by the radical race baiting thugs of #BLM?
I believe in peaceful protest in accordance with freedom of speech. Not acts like disrupting the lives of innocent people by blocking traffic and attacking innocents at a library with racial name calling. That is not going to win any support.
Should we have a moment of silence for all of the poor white people whose educations were destroyed by the radical race baiting thugs of #BLM?
Should we have a moment of silence for all of the poor white people whose educations were destroyed by the radical race baiting thugs of #BLM?
People understand time and place. The protesters took care of their student affairs earlier in the day to protest knowing they wouldn't have time to study while taking part in the protest. Now they're annoying people who didn't have the chance to study before the library was overrun.
People understand time and place. The protesters took care of their student affairs earlier in the day to protest knowing they wouldn't have time to study while taking part in the protest. Now they're annoying people who didn't have the chance to study before the library was overrun.
pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities
It's rather telling that they haven't done so tbh. The movement needs more organized leadership or an overseeing committee of authoritative figures to tie the disparate branches together.They shouldn't be considered representative but people are people.
BLM should honestly address this and either set the record straight or apologize if in fact the reports are accurate. Get out in front of things like this so they aren't used to discredit the entiriety of their movement.
Like I said before, if those alleged quotes and actions from the article are not true, not really no. If they are, yes and fuck this protest.
So the protesters are bad because they planned ahead?
So why bother invoking MLK when you don't even agree with his methods (although history shows it worked)? Basically what you're saying is protest in a way where I can ignore you.I believe in peaceful protest in accordance with freedom of speech. Not acts like disrupting the lives of innocent people by blocking traffic and attacking innocents at a library with racial name calling. That is not going to win any support.
By all means, spread the message. But do it in a way that does not interfere with the lives of others who have done nothing. Do it in a way that does not involve doing the same kinds of things you are protesting against. It's pretty simple.
Just this individual protest instance, or the entire BLM protest movement? B/c you know that puts you in the wrong if it's the latter, correct?
By all means, spread the message. But do it in a way that does not interfere with the lives of others who have done nothing. Do it in a way that does not involve doing the same kinds of things you are protesting against. It's pretty simple.
Yep. It's time.
It's time for me to introduce to everyone... Martin Luther King Jr!
But he's been brought up a million times already, you say? Nah, that's MLK, he's a lot like that special version of Jesus conservatives love.
Here's a taste of Martin Luther King Jr.
Why not protest like this at, say, an Ace Hardware store in a notoriously racist southern town? This is like preaching to the choir. Except the choir is trying to work at the moment and they're making people that were/are supportive of the cause upset. Who's to say those students weren't BLM supporters themselves that had an exam the next day? I mean, just because someone chooses to study a few hours doesn't mean they disagree with BLM or are not active in their own way. This just shows stupidity in my opinion. I'm sure you'll disagree. I'm sure I'll disagree. But there's my two cents.
Up to here, you have me. Sure, I agree that it's probably better to send this message to people who are more likely not to have heard it rather than young, social-media-connected University students. On the level of just being more effective at reaching more people with an important message, that would be better.Why not protest like this at, say, an Ace Hardware store in a notoriously racist southern town? This is like preaching to the choir.
And here you lose me. There's no good argument for protesting being wrong because it's "inconvenient" for others. Here's the logical endpoint of that line of thinking.Except the choir is trying to work at that moment. They're making people that were/are supportive of the cause upset. Who's to say those students weren't BLM supporters themselves that had an exam the next day? I mean, just because someone chooses to study a few hours doesn't mean they disagree with BLM or are not active in their own way. This just shows stupidity in my opinion. I'm sure you'll disagree. I'm sure I'll disagree. But there's my two cents. Shit, most of the protesters looked like students themselves. They probably got their studies done earlier in the day to participate in this. Now they're fucking over the kids who didn't get their studying done at the same time as them.
Yep. It's time.
It's time for me to introduce to everyone... Martin Luther King Jr!
But he's been brought up a million times already, you say? Nah, that's MLK, he's a lot like that special version of Jesus conservatives love.
Here's a taste of Martin Luther King Jr.
White people have perpetrated the injustices that BLM are advocating against. If you are aware of and agree with their message, then no, they aren't talking to you, specifically.
"But why aren't they fighting for their lives in a way that accommodates my needs?"
There are people in the media calling the organization a "Hate Group" and THIS is how you respond? Thanks for giving people who actually are racist ammo.Protesters reportedly shouted “F– you, you filthy white f–-” “f– you and your comfort” and “f– you, you racist s–.”
Great way to make allies there.
"One woman was reportedly pinned to a wall by protesters who shouted “filthy white b–-” in her face."
wtfff
Provided they adhere to protest according to your scheduleNo but you shouldn't be surprised that people would get pissed. No in-between with people like you lol.
I don't think BLM is wrong on any issue. But if this shit happened to me during my college days I would be perturbed. No more, no less. I wouldn't stop wanting more focus on racial issues in national politics. I wouldn't look down at every person that's a part of the BLM movement. I would simply be annoyed at these people, especially if some young, naive, ideological college student flipped me off for no reason.
Following the moment of silence, the protestors went back to Novack. An anonymous 19 student who was studying in Novack describes the incident that followed:
“I was sitting in Novack studying when a large group of protestors came in chanting ‘black lives matter.’ They gathered in the center of Novack amongst the tables where there were a number of people working peacefully.
They kept shouting and started banging on tables. They demanded that people stand up to show their solidarity. Those who did not stand were targeted and questioned.
There was a girl studying in one of the study rooms in Novack and the protestors stormed the room. She closed the door on one of the protestors which resulted in rage from many protestors. The girl then exited silently through the crowd while protestors screamed at her calling her a white bitch.
At one point the protestors crowded around a guy sitting on his laptop and stared at him screaming at him ‘If we cant study, you can’t study.'”
The student who was being yelled at questioned the movement’s aggressive tactics, and went on to identify himself as a being a part of the Latino community. He was subsequently attacked by one of the protestors who shouted “I’ve never seen you at the LALACS house,” followed by a thunderous applause from the protestors.
The large group of protestors began to move up and yell at students on first floor Berry. Students were again yelled at to stand up in support of the protest, and many did so, either out of support or fear.
After making a girl cry, a protestor screamed “Fuck your white tears.”
I was startled by the aggression from a small minority of students towards students in the library, many of whom were supporters of the movement.
From what I witnessed, a small number of the protestors resorted to aggressive verbal harassment. I didn’t see any physical aggression.
At that moment, the protest strategies became. counterproductive. I chose to leave the event before it was over.
"Go and protest where I can't see you, hear you, or lose any comfort! Be considerate"
Doesn't work like that.