daTRUballin
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I'm thinking maybe you're controlling the purple guy's son. And that's why the "nightmare" animatronics are attacking you, because of what your father did to them.
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to Game Theory, their theory isn't really that solid and makes too many assumptions. Besides, if it took place before, the animatronics would all be destroyed. It's definitely after, at the very least, 2 or 3 weeks after Mike Schmidt stops working there.
We'll probably get answers for most of the stuff we still don't know in the form of more mini-games. I still think we'll have another game or two though.
Psyrgery ES
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Oh btw, the new jumpscare scream looks like a mix of the previous 3. Neat!
daTRUballin
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Well, Game Theory does have some good points about
the possibility of Phone Guy being the Purple Guy. But their explanation about the minigames taking place before Mike worked there does seem like a bit of a stretch, but it's certainly possible.
Phone Guy is killed before FNAF1. Purple Guy is killed after FNAF1, so him being the Phone Guy is impossible, barring some massive revelation in this new game. Phone Guy also knew about the faulty springlocks in the suit, so he wouldn't have jumped in them like Purple Guy did. Yeah, it's possible that it happened before Mike worked there, but highly implausible. I think we'll probably find out why exactly Purple Guy went back there in FNAF4, maybe even what happened to Phone Guy.
daTRUballin
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Don't forget about all the other evidence that points to Phone Guy being the killer. He says some really suspicious things in FNAF 2, such as not being fond of the Puppet and saying that Foxy has always been his favorite.
Just because the Phone Guy knew about the faulty spring locks, it doesn't mean he wouldn't jump in it. We know that the killer has been using the Spring Bonnie suit safely for years during his murders, despite the faulty spring locks. He knew how to work his way around them. It could've been the rain that was seeping through the ceiling that killed the Purple Guy when he jumped into the suit.
Just because the Phone Guy knew about the faulty spring locks, it doesn't mean he wouldn't jump in it. We know that the killer has been using the Spring Bonnie suit safely for years during his murders, despite the faulty spring locks. He knew how to work his way around them. It could've been the rain that was seeping through the ceiling that killed the Purple Guy when he jumped into the suit.
I still don't really think they're both the same person. The main problem is that everything in these games is suspicious, but as we've seen before, sometimes the simple answer is not the right answer. He makes some points, but we still don't really know enough to say that he's definitely the Phone Guy. Hopefully everything gets answered in FNAF4! ...or however many games come after this one.
Also, we still don't really know what suit the killer used. We do see the Purple Freddy suit in the mini-games, but now it seems like that's a whole different entity altogether. I'd think the Golden Freddy suit was maybe used, then taken into police custody as evidence, but maybe not. That's the fun thing about this series, all the speculation.
daTRUballin
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I think it was most likely the Spring Bonnie suit that was used because the Phone Guy states in one of the calls in FNAF 3 that the "Spring Bonnie animatronic has been noticeably moved". It's also the suit that the Purple Guy is killed in, and it would make sense if he was killed in the suit that was used. It would be perfect revenge for the spirits.
Also, I've never really seen anybody else point this out, but I think it would make sense that Phone Guy is Purple Guy simply because of the shocking factor alone. I mean, think about it. Scott can easily make the killer some unknown person we've never met before in the games. But it'd be more shocking if it turned out to be someone we actually know well, like Phone Guy. The fact that a seemingly friendly person like Phone Guy would actually turn out to be a deranged murderer would be shocking in of itself.
Yeah, I forgot about that. I still think he's someone else, that it wouldn't be that simple, no matter the shock value, maybe he's someone else altogether, someone even more shocking than the Phone Guy, but I think it could be him too. I'm wondering just what exactly is Purple Freddy? It seems to use children's games to lure the kids backstage, follow the leader and so on, but would it really be working for the Purple Guy? Shadow Bonnie is, I assume, one of the employees killed at the sister location by the springsuits, but Purple Freddy is still an unknown factor.
Phone Guy or not, I think we're going to see some shocking stuff in FNAF4, both in gameplay and lore. I wonder if Scott will stick to the 8th August release date? He seems to enjoy suddenly releasing them without a warning.
Phone Guy or not, I think we're going to see some shocking stuff in FNAF4, both in gameplay and lore. I wonder if Scott will stick to the 8th August release date? He seems to enjoy suddenly releasing them without a warning.
daTRUballin
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I've always assumed that both Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy were the spirits of the employees who died in the spring suits, but there does seem to be more to Shadow Freddy. I'm not sure about that one.
Part of me hopes Scott would release it sooner than August 8th because I can't wait for the game. He gets trigger-happy with releases, so let's hope the same thing happens.
He was supposed to release the trailer for this game next week, but he released it yesterday. FNAF 2 also came out way earlier than expected. He always releases things sooner than they need to be. I've always assumed that both Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy were the spirits of the employees who died in the spring suits, but there does seem to be more to Shadow Freddy. I'm not sure about that one.
Part of me hopes Scott would release it sooner than August 8th because I can't wait for the game. He gets trigger-happy with releases, so let's hope the same thing happens.
I think he will try to stick to the release date, seeing as it's the one year anniversary of the original game, but you never know!
There's definitely something different about Shadow/Purple Freddy. There's something inside his chest-mouth on the teaser picture, and the words "protect me" show up when you brighten it. Who knows what that's about..
daTRUballin
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Actually, the teaser image you're talking about is Nightmare Fredbear. Some fans have unscrambled the word "Fredbear" in the source code of the image. I'm guessing there's some sort of connection between Shadow Freddy and Fredbear.
Could it be that the words "protect me" have something to do with the fact that the child that possesses the Puppet died in front of Fredbear? He failed to protect him from the Purple Guy.......
Huh, didn't know that.
There's definitely a connection, but the two seem to act differently, i.e, Shadow Freddy seems to help lure the kids backstage and Purple Freddy is the one who helps free the children's souls by luring them to the Purple Guy so he can break their "cages", so I don't think they're the same entity. I know Scott always keeps some things a secret, and we didn't see anything of Fredbear in the trailer, so maybe it'll be like FNAF2, and we'll have a few secret surprises.
daTRUballin
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Shadow Freddy and Purple Freddy are different? I thought it was pretty much established by the community that they're the same?
I think you might be confusing some stuff here.
Triggerhappytel
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Don't we all?
Dimitri LH
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Was there any explanation on why Bonnie never showed up in FNAF3? Is Bonnie the same entity as Shadow Bonnie from the minigames? If so why is Shadow Bonnie so curtupted/glitched in the minigames? Maybe he was too wither/broken to be part of the Fazzbear pizzeria museum?
Also, there better be a damn clear explanation to balloon boy this time other than "hallucinations" which makes no sense considering the FNAF 2 & 3 guys are different. Maybe the Puppet also posses Balloon boy?
Also, there better be a damn clear explanation to balloon boy this time other than "hallucinations" which makes no sense considering the FNAF 2 & 3 guys are different. Maybe the Puppet also posses Balloon boy?
daTRUballin
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I'm guessing Scott thought there was no point including Bonnie in FNAF 3 because Springtrap was pretty much a different version of Bonnie. He probably didn't want there to be two Bonnies in the game.
Shotgun Kiss
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Anybody who complains about these games being released in succession needs to stop being so closed-minded.
1) If it's perfectly acceptable for episodic-based games to release at a similar rate, why is it unacceptable for four games that each have unique mechanics and assets to do so?
2) Each game costs a fraction what a typical game would cost, which reflects the amount of content. In the course of a year, we've got a decent amount of content at a fair price that is still less than a normal retail game.
3) Not all games should be judged by the same standards. The main reason it's considered problematic for sequels to be released too soon after the previous instalment is because the quality of the game suffers as a result. The frequency of releases isn't the problem itself; it's a cause. But this isn't the case with FNaF, as Scott Cawthon has done a great job at keeping each new game fun and fresh.
4) Scott has stated that this is the last game in the series. Four games in a year is far better than countless games over a much longer period of time, such as Angry Birds.
5) Anybody else would do exactly the same as Scott if they had the talent to make 4 games in the course of a year without compromising their quality. It's just good business sense, and it obviously worked, as he's made a shitload of money, and given a decent amount of it to charity.
1) If it's perfectly acceptable for episodic-based games to release at a similar rate, why is it unacceptable for four games that each have unique mechanics and assets to do so?
2) Each game costs a fraction what a typical game would cost, which reflects the amount of content. In the course of a year, we've got a decent amount of content at a fair price that is still less than a normal retail game.
3) Not all games should be judged by the same standards. The main reason it's considered problematic for sequels to be released too soon after the previous instalment is because the quality of the game suffers as a result. The frequency of releases isn't the problem itself; it's a cause. But this isn't the case with FNaF, as Scott Cawthon has done a great job at keeping each new game fun and fresh.
4) Scott has stated that this is the last game in the series. Four games in a year is far better than countless games over a much longer period of time, such as Angry Birds.
5) Anybody else would do exactly the same as Scott if they had the talent to make 4 games in the course of a year without compromising their quality. It's just good business sense, and it obviously worked, as he's made a shitload of money, and given a decent amount of it to charity.
I like how it plays with your expectations of a Freddy game
Also this is Freddy's house or something?
Also purple guy is probably Scott since he's killing it
I'm out
This is exactly what I noticed as well. The child's scream from FNAF 1 at the end of the jump scare is especially evident.
Eh, I think part of the reason why FNAF does so well in a "Let's Play" perspective isn't necessarily that it's too scary to play, but it really has that horror movie thing going for it where you criticize someone for doing something stupid as they're about to die. Like, it's interesting to watch a vid when a game first comes out, especially since NO ONE knows quite exactly how to play one of the games at first since it explains no mechanics to you in terms of the robots, but it's equally interesting to know exactly how they work and go back and watch people struggle at a time where they didn't.
daTRUballin
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So there really hasn't been any other info on this game?
It seems like this one is not on Steam Greenlight this time around. The last three games were on Greenlight, and we had a description from Scott on the games. Since this time it's not on Greenlight, we virtually know nothing about this game other than what the trailer shows.
I was hoping we would get some sort of description or some sort of explanation of the setting, who we are controlling, etc. I guess that's not the case this time?
It seems like this one is not on Steam Greenlight this time around. The last three games were on Greenlight, and we had a description from Scott on the games. Since this time it's not on Greenlight, we virtually know nothing about this game other than what the trailer shows.
I was hoping we would get some sort of description or some sort of explanation of the setting, who we are controlling, etc. I guess that's not the case this time?
Someone on the /5N@F/ thread on 4chan put forth a pretty interesting theory.
In the end of FNAF3, the newspaper showing that the fright attraction burnt down has some info from Scott about the development of the series. One part goes into about how he had severe nightmares about Bonnie while developing the games. To quote, "I had this nightmare that Bonnie was coming to get me in my house. I went to shut the door, but it was already locked and I knew that meant he was in the room."
What if this game is set in his house? Based on his nightmares? Would be pretty cool.
In the end of FNAF3, the newspaper showing that the fright attraction burnt down has some info from Scott about the development of the series. One part goes into about how he had severe nightmares about Bonnie while developing the games. To quote, "I had this nightmare that Bonnie was coming to get me in my house. I went to shut the door, but it was already locked and I knew that meant he was in the room."
What if this game is set in his house? Based on his nightmares? Would be pretty cool.
daTRUballin
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That's what I'm thinking. This game could've been inspired by his nightmares! The end of the trailer when Bonnie jumpscares you reminds me a lot of his story.
That's what I'm thinking. This game could've been inspired by his nightmares! The end of the trailer when Bonnie jumpscares you reminds me a lot of his story.
Yeah, it really does. Watching the trailer again, it's clear that we must be able to either leave the room or have some sort of camera system, as the Foxy closet and the Springtrap plush closet? Hallway? They're both in seperate locations. There's also a Freddy plush on the bed, so either the player character has been or knows someone who's been to the restaurant, and it must be sometime around FNAF2, because there's plenty of plushes in the prize room in that game. I'm guessing we'll learn something about the sister location mentioned in FNAF3, and maybe the Halloween update will handle the Fredbear location?
BreezyLimbo
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Has he really? Well damn. That's pretty cool.
OrangeYouGlad
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I don't have any interest in playing the game, but the lore sounds interesting. Any place where it's summarized?
daTRUballin
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Well, the Foxy closet seems to be in your bedroom, and the Plushtrap seems to be down the hallway. I doubt there would be any cameras in this game as that wouldn't really make sense in this setting. The gameplay will definitely be interesting this time around. He's changing some things up.
BreezyLimbo
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I think there's a youtube channel...gamexplain or gametheory...that summarizes each game and it's place in the series. I dunno the channels name @_@
daTRUballin
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Well, the Foxy closet seems to be in your bedroom, and the Plushtrap seems to be down the hallway. I doubt there would be any cameras in this game as that wouldn't really make sense in this setting. The gameplay will definitely be interesting this time around. He's changing some things up.
I noticed in the trailer that the closet was open in the small section that looked like actual gameplay. Maybe the closet acts like a third door, and you have to keep closing or opening it to keep tabs on Foxy? The whole thing is going to be nuts, no doubt! I mean, for one thing, going after kids is against everything we learnt in the other games. We got told that they only acted aggressively towards adults and now it's the other way around!
One of the dudes from the 4chan thread claims Scott is possibly springing a surprise release on us again, and he only has about a day or two of testing left before he's finished. Doubt it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised!
daTRUballin
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Yeah, the gameplay seems to be going back to the original game's roots. You have Bonnie coming from the left door and Chica coming from the right again. You have Foxy in the closet which is essentially Pirate Cove. And I'm glad the gameplay is going back to FNAF 1's roots. I feel that FNAF 2 is way too convoluted and FNAF 3 just felt empty. Nevertheless, the gameplay is definitely going to be insane!
And I hope that guy on 4chan is right! That'd be so great if that happened! I kinda doubt it, but with Scott, you never know.
Yeah, the gameplay seems to be going back to the original game's roots. You have Bonnie coming from the left door and Chica coming from the right again. You have Foxy in the closet which is essentially Pirate Cove. And I'm glad the gameplay is going back to FNAF 1's roots. I feel that FNAF 2 is way too convoluted and FNAF 3 just felt empty. Nevertheless, the gameplay is definitely going to be insane!
And I hope that guy on 4chan is right! That'd be so great if that happened! I kinda doubt it, but with Scott, you never know.
Yep! Would be awesome if he dropped it on us suddenly! Maybe at the end of the week? Did you see the numbers in the corner of the screen on the plush Springtrap part of the trailer? Wonder what it's for?
Also, wow, this thread is mostly just you and me talking
daTRUballin
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Yep! Would be awesome if he dropped it on us suddenly! Maybe at the end of the week? Did you see the numbers in the corner of the screen on the plush Springtrap part of the trailer? Wonder what it's for?
Also, wow, this thread is mostly just you and me talking
Well, not the whole thread, but the whole 3rd page, pretty much.
It feels like we're the only ones here on GAF who care about FNAF or something. I'm guessing the numbers in the corner of the Plushtrap part are a countdown? Maybe one of the gameplay mechanics is to check on him so he doesn't get to you, and you have 50 seconds to check or something?
Well, not the whole thread, but the whole 3rd page, pretty much.
I'm guessing the numbers in the corner of the Plushtrap part are a countdown? Maybe one of the gameplay mechanics is to check on him so he doesn't get to you, and you have 50 seconds to check or something?
Yep
When I was talking with people on 4chan, somebody said that maybe the Springtrap plush would help you somehow if you checked it when it was standing on the X. Would make sense if it actually was the Purple Guys kid, especially if it took place between the first and third game. We did get the hallucinations in the third game, they could be ghosts instead, like maybe what the animatronics in this could be. Maybe he gets help from his dad? This speculation is making me think up these insane theories!
daTRUballin
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Yep
I'm starting to kind of doubt that you're playing as the Purple Guy's kid. The words "What have you brought home?" in the trailer seem to suggest that you're some sort of child who went to one of the pizzerias and brought something back home with you.
And to be honest, I'll be a bit disappointed if that's the case. The story would be a lot more darker and intriguing if you're the Purple Guy's son or something.
I'm starting to kind of doubt that you're playing as the Purple Guy's kid. The words "What have you brought home?" in the trailer seem to suggest that you're some sort of child who went to one of the pizzerias and brought something back home with you.
And to be honest, I'll be a bit disappointed if that's the case. The story would be a lot more darker and intriguing if you're the Purple Guy's son or something.
Yeah, wouldn't really make much sense if it was just a random kid, like, why would the animatronics want to kill some kid in the first place? The animatronics must have a pretty big reason to try and kill this kid in the first place if they're going against everything we know about their programming in the first place! Unless they're ghosts, then programming doesn't matter.
daTRUballin
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Exactly! That's a good point.
They must have a very good reason to go after this kid. Also, notice that the bedroom has a purple fan in it, along with a purple robot toy and a toy phone. Could this mean there's some sort of connection you have with the Phone Guy or Purple Guy or something?
I think Scott purposely put all this stuff there to mess with people. The phone is obviously there for the usual reason, but why purple? It's all a false flag, to stop people from figuring out the identity of the kid you play as. Or maybe we're overthinking this and there's a simple answer, I don't know.
daTRUballin
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Well, remember that the phone is a toy. So obviously we're not going to get calls from it.
The purple fan and purple robot could mean something. One of the biggest questions I've had about all this is if we're going to get phone calls just like the first three games? Since we're not in a pizzeria anymore, are we still going to get them?
Well, remember that the phone is a toy. So obviously we're not going to get calls from it.
One of the biggest questions I've had about all this is if we're going to get phone calls just like the first three games? Since we're not in a pizzeria anymore, are we still going to get them?
Who knows? It could be like the old Poltergeist films, the toy phone in that received calls despite being a toy. If we really are dealing with paranormal stuff, and it probably is, unless someone actually bought all these horrifying robots at auction, stuff like that wouldn't be too different from haunted robots
I wonder what exactly the thing they mention in the trailer, "What have you brought home?", what could it be? Maybe none of the stuff we see in the trailer is the cause.There is a lot of purple stuff in the game though. Definitely something to do with the Purple Guy, but maybe not what we all think? Scott does like to turn things completely upside down!
daTRUballin
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Who knows? It could be like the old Poltergeist films, the toy phone in that received calls despite being a toy. If we really are dealing with paranormal stuff, and it probably is, unless someone actually bought all these horrifying robots at auction, stuff like that wouldn't be too different from haunted robots
There is a lot of purple stuff in the game though. Definitely something to do with the Purple Guy, but maybe not what we all think? Scott does like to turn things completely upside down!
If our theory about the player character being the Purple Guy's son is correct, then I'm guessing we're going to get phone calls from him every night? Maybe he works as a night shift guard at the pizzeria, and that's why his son is all alone in his house?
Imagine how eerie that would be? Getting calls from him and knowing that he's your father? And knowing that he's present at the pizzeria where he murdered the kids while he's talking to you? Geez. That's some dark storytelling potential right there. :/
Oh yeah, it's going to be dark, no doubt about that! The games have gotten progressively more sinister as they've been released, so I don't doubt this one will be even darker than FNAF3. I wonder if we'll get a newspaper screen like the other games? Maybe it'll have multiple endings like FNAF3 again.
daTRUballin
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Honestly, I would prefer it not have multiple endings. The good and bad ending from FNAF 3 made things a lot more confusing it seems.
Plus, if the game is in the past, there wouldn't be any alternate endings, since you can't really change the past, right? Also, I wanted to point out that if we play as the murderer's son and we get phone calls from him every night, and if his voice turns out to be the same as Phone Guy's, then we both know what that means.......
Honestly, I would prefer it not have multiple endings. The good and bad ending from FNAF 3 made things a lot more confusing it seems.
Also, I wanted to point out that if we play as the murderer's son and we get phone calls from him every night, and if his voice turns out to be the same as Phone Guy's, then we both know what that means.......
What if the calls we get are just before he records the messages in FNAF1? That would be weird, especially if the last night had the animatronics banging on the door, he forgets to hang up and we hear more than we heard in the first game.. That would be an "Oh shit" moment.
daTRUballin
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Yep. Then we could find out exactly what happened to Phone Guy.
I just have a feeling the game will be set in 1987, either before the Bite of '87 happened or after. So around the days of the FNAF 2 establishment. Maybe if we do get calls from Phone Guy, we could finally find out who did the bite after many months of speculation.
I'm thinking maybe we'll get weird, distorted messages from the phone, maybe messages from the Phone Guy, but from different time periods. Or, we get a random message each night, not just from Phone Guy. Maybe a police dispatcher calling in the first murder or the bite on one night, a phone call from a manager or something the next night...
daTRUballin
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That's possible, but I don't think it would make sense in this scenario. I guess if we're having a nightmare or dealing with paranormal stuff in general, I guess it's possible then.
I've always wanted there to be a FNAF game that takes place in Fredbear's Family Diner, or the first Freddy Fazbear's Pizza (the one where the murders of the first five children happen). It doesn't look like that's really happening, so I'm hoping that what you said is true. I just hope we finally get to learn what in the hell happened in those first two locations.