GHG
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Where did I say that?
Also, like I said, shit like that benefits Ford more than it does them so it doesn't disprove anything really.
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Where did I say that?
Also, like I said, shit like that benefits Ford more than it does them so it doesn't disprove anything really.
Hawk269
Member
I agree to an extent with you. I think MS places Forza on a high pedestal, but I also think they should of gave the game a little more love than they did at the presser. In 2013, they did it a bit better. I too wish they had given them a few more minutes. Do the same intro, show the trailer, the car, let Henry Ford do his thing, but then let Dan talk and have someone racing a lap around one of the tracks as Dan talked about improved Driveatar, or Forza Tech or whatever.
If I did not watch anything about Forza 6 other than the E3 presser, I would of felt disappointed and I did during the conference and then after reading and watching everything I was fine. But at an event like this, I think they should of gave it a little more time. Perhaps they need to make the presser a little longer so they can spend a little more time on some of the games.
Fox Mulder
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GHG
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And yet, they didn't mention any of those things once at the press conference. See what I'm getting at?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I'm all in, preordered the digital ultimate edition just now.
Since Porsches will be a post-launch add on, I'm assuming that it's going to be one big DLC pack like in Forza 4 and Horizon 2. If that's the case, then I want all the cars in the Forza 4 and Horizon 2 Porsche DLC, and add...
The latest 911 GT3 R race car, to go with the inevitable 997, 996 and 993 racers.
The latest 911 GT3 RS road car
The 919 prototype racer that won Le Mans this year
911 GT1 Strassenversion
Don't know if the 928 is in the Forza 4 DLC, but if it isn't, add that in. It's a forgotten part of Porsche's history. Maybe add the 968 too.
And last but not least, the 917 prototype racer that got Porsche their first Le Mans victory in 1970.
Helios, pls.
Since Porsches will be a post-launch add on, I'm assuming that it's going to be one big DLC pack like in Forza 4 and Horizon 2. If that's the case, then I want all the cars in the Forza 4 and Horizon 2 Porsche DLC, and add...
The latest 911 GT3 R race car, to go with the inevitable 997, 996 and 993 racers.
The latest 911 GT3 RS road car
The 919 prototype racer that won Le Mans this year
911 GT1 Strassenversion
Don't know if the 928 is in the Forza 4 DLC, but if it isn't, add that in. It's a forgotten part of Porsche's history. Maybe add the 968 too.
And last but not least, the 917 prototype racer that got Porsche their first Le Mans victory in 1970.
Helios, pls.
I didn't saw this VVV interview. Dan confirms NO night+rain
fixed link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2k7g7S1zE
fixed link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2k7g7S1zE
wrong link? It's GT just played.
Guys, I need some help with figuring out some of these external cars from different bundles, VIP, preorders, and loyalty program.
So there seems to be cars that are given to you for doing something, but these are just early unlocks, the other players can get them too. And then there are cars that are exclusive to those who do some stuff, and can never be unlocked/bought in-game by anyone else. I will use double spaces to make it easier to read.
So there is:
Preorder: 10 (exclusive to preorders of any edition, no one else can buy them with in game credit)
Preorder: 2016 MX-5 (exclusive or early unlock?)
Car pass: 42 cars (obviously exclusive pass)
VIP: 5 cars (exclusive pass) (note 458 Italia, 2016 GT350R)
Fast and Furious: FF cars (exclusive to Ultimate edition)
Tier Rewards: (early unlocks, not exclusive) (the highest tier car can still be used by a low tier player by just buying it in-game)
Game Rewards: (early unlocks based on what previous games you played)
Previous VIP Rewards: (early unlocks for previous VIP passes owned) (note LaFerrari, Koenigsegg Agera)
So my questions are: Is the only way to play the 458 Speciale and new 2016 Ford GT350R is to buy the VIP pass? Kinda sucks if so. Next, the LaFerrari and Agera are playable without being a previous VIP member, correct? You just do not get them unlocked early and for free, right?
So there seems to be cars that are given to you for doing something, but these are just early unlocks, the other players can get them too. And then there are cars that are exclusive to those who do some stuff, and can never be unlocked/bought in-game by anyone else. I will use double spaces to make it easier to read.
So there is:
Preorder: 10 (exclusive to preorders of any edition, no one else can buy them with in game credit)
Preorder: 2016 MX-5 (exclusive or early unlock?)
Car pass: 42 cars (obviously exclusive pass)
VIP: 5 cars (exclusive pass) (note 458 Italia, 2016 GT350R)
Fast and Furious: FF cars (exclusive to Ultimate edition)
Tier Rewards: (early unlocks, not exclusive) (the highest tier car can still be used by a low tier player by just buying it in-game)
Game Rewards: (early unlocks based on what previous games you played)
Previous VIP Rewards: (early unlocks for previous VIP passes owned) (note LaFerrari, Koenigsegg Agera)
So my questions are: Is the only way to play the 458 Speciale and new 2016 Ford GT350R is to buy the VIP pass? Kinda sucks if so. Next, the LaFerrari and Agera are playable without being a previous VIP member, correct? You just do not get them unlocked early and for free, right?
Yes, if you want the 458 Speciale/GT350R, you need to buy the VIP pass. Yes, if you were a previous VIP member, you get them for free, you can still get them if you're not, you just need to buy them with in-game cr. Also the pre-order 10 year car pack cars are just special tuning set-ups/liveries for those cars, you cans still buy the regular version in-game, just with credits.
Damn, I have the 458 Speciale in FH2 and I couldn't go back to using the regular 458. How much is the VIP pass? 20$? But if I buy it now with FM6, then the VIP passes for subsequent games, FH3, FM7...etc. will be half-price?
I would assume so, but who knows? Maybe they might get rid of the VIP pass? Who am I kidding, it probably makes a tonne of money for them
A very neat summary of everything that is wrong with modern videogaming.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I was disappointed in Forza's E3 showing too. Don't get me wrong, I loved what I saw, but that's the game I had waited for, and it fell over in a blink.
The pass is $20 if you buy it separately.
If you want it, I think the digital Ultimate Edition is the better way to go. The physical Limited Edition may be a good option too, but it hasn't been announced yet.
An FM6 pass may get you a discount on the FH3 pass, but I don't think it'll work the other way.
The pass is $20 if you buy it separately.
If you want it, I think the digital Ultimate Edition is the better way to go. The physical Limited Edition may be a good option too, but it hasn't been announced yet.
An FM6 pass may get you a discount on the FH3 pass, but I don't think it'll work the other way.
I Cant find a HQ version?
Fox Mulder
Member
It's a design choice for 1080p at 60 fps locked. Maybe if the hardware wasn't gimped at launch so MS could include a fucking Kinect.
soundscream
Member
To those complaining about the time spent on stage with the game, if you go watch the other Forza stage presentations, they are all about 3 mins long with the exception of 3 and 5. In 3's case there was a ton of filler with a video about artist and a second cg trailer, and 5 had a long Forza vista section followed by a drivatar section. They are all basically the same length when you cut out the filler.
soundscream
Member
Just watched the ign stage demo and John Wendal described it as the technology pipeline that they share between turn10 and playground games.
MilkyJoe
Member
The hood reflections, anyone else noticing something off about them? It seems to be reflecting 100% of the front view of the car. Shouldn't it be reflecting mostly sky?
It really stood out to me, where is the camera located exactly to make this weird angle happen?
Hold your phone out in front of you, tilt it forward slightly, do you see a reflection of your ceiling or your wall/tv/computer screen?
That's not how reflections work. Get a hand mirror out in front of you on a similar angle.The hood reflections, anyone else noticing something off about them? It seems to be reflecting 100% of the front view of the car. Shouldn't it be reflecting mostly sky?
It really stood out to me, where is the camera located exactly to make this weird angle happen?
justgames7604
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Korean Jesus
Banned
The hood reflections, anyone else noticing something off about them? It seems to be reflecting 100% of the front view of the car. Shouldn't it be reflecting mostly sky?
It really stood out to me, where is the camera located exactly to make this weird angle happen?
We must take it a step further ahead gentlemen.
Place your phone on your car dashboard (with your hood visible in the camera app) and record while driving in wet condition.
At terrific speeds so as to see if the light will bend
Really baffling. I mean, it's 2015, come the fuck on now. While I could excuse the rather barebones Forza 5 due to it being a launch title, I expected Forza 6 to be the "definitive" Forza but the lack of dynamic rain, dynamic TOD, rain + night racing and pit stops in a 2015 racing game is just disappointing.
Guess their data from previous Forzas shows all people do is drive 3 laps and they have tailored the game to these folks accordingly.
JayWood2010
Member
Somebody said earlier that they raced at night in hurricane conditions.
Edit: My mistake, read it wrong.
If I'm already a VIP for FM5 and FH2 do you need to buy VIP again for FM6 or does it carry over?
Also time to start grinding out some forza tiers, should be able to hit another one by the time this launches
JayWood2010
Member
Then he was lying.Here:
I dont have time to watch it right now, but i believe you haha Here is that comment from earlier http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=168942058&postcount=2957
But yeah, it personally doesn't bother me. Game looks great and very excited that theyre opening it up to more stuff now.
That's a model of lambo
Just went back and looked the DF frame-rate test of Forza 5. If Forza 6 is this solid @ 60fps in the rain with 24 cars on XB1 my goodness...
https://youtu.be/cFGMX0RWzwM
https://youtu.be/cFGMX0RWzwM
JayWood2010
Member
That's a model of lambo
lmao xD i read it as hurricane conditions xD
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
Zero bugs? It may have been patched now but I had some really distorted audio in FM5 when I first played it. Had my Xbone about a year.
For me it's the worst Forza.
soundscream
Member
Had it since day 1, no audio issues. Only issue with the game is that it's light on cars and tracks, and the payment model for painters and tuners was beyond stupid. It has the best handeling model in the franchise's history.
I still get the audio issues myself. It only happens if I'm playing for a long time but it's pretty consistent. Sound either cuts in and out or there's a weird crackling distortion.
I have issues in FH2 as well. It often crashes when I first boot it and I have this audio issue too.
I'm not overly bothered by any of those problems but the Forza games aren't as bug free as some would suggest.
Yep, agreed.
Also, I don't know nearly enough about it but wouldn't something like LeMans be red flagged if it was dumping rain at night time? Doesn't seem like a very common thing in motorsport so I understand their choice not to include it. Horizon 2 and Driveclub are different stories, obviously.
You are right, recent Forza games, starting with 3(?), have had audio bugs. Sorry, mostly bug free.
Still, compared to other racers, its quite solid in all aspects and I commend them on that. I'm currently beyound frustrated with another racer at the moment.
In a game with 450 base cars, this is a hollow criticism. I feel like this model isn't punishing people buying the core game unless they're aggressive completionists, at which point that's on them.
cutmeamango
Banned
I'd say that huge 3d puddles are a bullet point not worth in sims because like I've mentioned before, in most motorsports they'd be considered hazards, and would cause flags or even interruption if they had a quick formation (because it would mean heavy rain).
But it's easy to understand them as not as taxing to an engine like dynamic time or weather effects since most sims avoid one or both of those anyway.
Forza isn't trying to simulate real motorsports but rather just racing a large variety of cars. 3d puddles, for Forza, fits in and is definitely a bullet point
missed this will watch, thanks.
How many other AAA games, let alone racing games, on any console are locked 1080p and 60 fps locked? That's right... Forza 5 and Forza 6 are the only ones.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_forza_motorsport_6_trailer-16697_en.html
cutmeamango
Banned
I see, I'd compare it to visual damage modelling, it adds to the spectacle even if it doesn't precisely fit to racing norms and that's always a bullet point.
You are correct, but that happens with near every game because it's a good cost/function over precision.
In a lot of settings, the PS1-era solution Gran Turismo used for its rear window reflections is actually pretty close to how it should look, which I always find interesting. It's sort of like how Forza 5/Horizon 2 reflect the driver's hands and steering column on the windshield from the in-car view in a way that looks great, but at an angle that wouldn't generally show it. I actually like that sort of stagecraft most of the time. I guess "I like it until I don't."
Agree. This is quite an accomplishment.