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That's weird. Although judging games based on Japanese comment sections would be like judging America's view on gay marriage from youtube comments. Maybe he should go to some Japanese forums for more hardcore gamers and ask about Mother 3 there.

Well, the person did get those comments from Mother fans on Japanese forums.
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Also, my copy of Smash Bros 3DS is finally preparing for shipment on Amazon!!

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>We're pleased to confirm that your items have now been despatched and will be with you shortly.
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there goes my hope of getting my eu copy on Friday :\
 
Part of my reason for disliking Mother, as petty as this may be, is I just got sick of hearing about how great it is. Especially the "omg Gigygas is based on a rape scene aborted fetus so deep!" shit. I dunno, the Mother fans I've been exposed to overall seem to pat themselves on the back for enjoying the game too much, like they're more intelligent or cultured.

A few years back Mother/Earthbound was a game legit most hardcore gamers ever heard of. The fans took it upon themselves to remedy that and now they've established the game as a cult classic. So I guess that's the reason behind the over-zealous fans
 
Part of my reason for disliking Mother, as petty as this may be, is I just got sick of hearing about how great it is. Especially the "omg Gigygas is based on a rape scene aborted fetus so deep!" shit. I dunno, the Mother fans I've been exposed to overall seem to pat themselves on the back for enjoying the game too much, like they're more intelligent or cultured.
Yeah this is petty as shit, it's a small (though vocal) part of the fanbase. I personally wouldn't let some small part of the fanbase ruin my enjoyment of something.
 
It bothers me a bit when someone dislikes something for how much someone likes something. It bothers me a TON when it's something that has a small, vocal fanbase. I mean, do you get bothered when people call Mass Effect the greatest RPG series of our time? EB deserves all the praise it gets.

Also, no real fan thinks that Giygas was a fetus. That's stupid shit. But I get the feeling that you think that EB really isn't that deep - is that what you're implying?
 
Part of my reason for disliking Mother, as petty as this may be, is I just got sick of hearing about how great it is. Especially the "omg Gigygas is based on a rape scene aborted fetus so deep!" shit. I dunno, the Mother fans I've been exposed to overall seem to pat themselves on the back for enjoying the game too much, like they're more intelligent or cultured.
That's how I felt for the first few levels, but it's one of those rare games that made me smile multiple times.

Oh would you look at that...great. Wario does have that grab release issue tho. :P
What grab release issue?
 
That's how I felt for the first few levels, but it's one of those rare games that made me smile multiple times.


What grab release issue?

Basically, when Wario is grabbed, and when he is suspended in the air by the grab, and he escapes from it, some characters get a free hit, often a KO, because Wario doesn't move very far away when he escapes. Further, the player controlling Wario can't regain control until too late.
 
It bothers me a bit when someone dislikes something for how much someone likes something. It bothers me a TON when it's something that has a small, vocal fanbase. I mean, do you get bothered when people call Mass Effect the greatest RPG series of our time? EB deserves all the praise it gets.

Also, no real fan thinks that Giygas was a fetus. That's stupid shit. But I get the feeling that you think that EB really isn't that deep - is that what you're implying?

Yeah. I don't.

I'm a Pokemon Fan I also get annoyed when people try to make it "deeper" as well through fan theories to try and hide the fact they enjoy a kid's game, when there's nothing wrong with that in the first place.
 
I've finally beaten someone! First I killed one of those pesky Zero Suit Samus with Toon Link and the second time it was a Lucina vs Falcon revenge battle. At least the win counter isn't at zero anymore.
 
Basically, when Wario is grabbed, and when he is suspended in the air by the grab, and he escapes from it, some characters get a free hit, often a KO, because Wario doesn't move very far away when he escapes. Further, the player controlling Wario can't regain control until too late.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks!

Also, would it be fair to say that diehard Earthbound fans are like the Whovians of videogames? Or is there a better analogy?
 
I live in the UK and I received mine today morning.

I've been playing Classic mode to unlock characters and omfg I got my ass kicked by jigglypuff three times before unlocking it.
 
What grab release issue?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szd9f7i1Qo8

The timing is apparently strict, and Mac and Rosalina are pretty situational. (Mac needs a full meter, Rosalina needs Luma to be up close).
It's not as bad as Brawl where he can get hit by a guaranteed tipper or knee. It's really only an issue with Shulk and ZSS, but Wario is a pretty hard character to grab anyway.

Still shouldn't have been in though.
 
Ah, gotcha. Thanks!

Also, would it be fair to say that diehard Earthbound fans are like the Whovians of videogames? Or is there a better analogy?

It's kind of a good analogy, but at the same time Doctor Who has a ton of mainstream appeal. It's more of a cult classic here in the states, but ww it's way too big to be considered an equivalent to EB.
 
The guy Zero's playing on his stream has an amazing Mega Man. He makes really good use of his throws, which I still suck at. I'm glad others are using his top spin and forward smash more, though. I rarely see them used competitively for whatever reason.
 
I heard rumblings of a mom-&-pop store that broke street date for Smash. Hours later, I saw an SUV full of Smash 3DS boxes drive by the street parallel to the Physics building.

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Very little, but from what I've read and watched of it I've seen nothing to suggest it's any deeper than any other JRPG which attempts deep themes.

Feel free to convince me otherwise.

I have no interest in convincing you, because you don't sound interested in being convinced :v you should annoyed by the idea that EarthBound may be deep, and that people hold it in such reverence.
 
I have no interest in convincing you, because you don't sound interested in being convinced :v you should annoyed by the idea that EarthBound may be deep, and that people hold it in such reverence.

What was that one review that stated "[EarthBound]'s the only game I've known to change people"?

Really though, EarthBound's one of the most emotionally complex games around. Dismissing it as only being quirky sounds like you'd be missing out on a lot of good games.
 
I have no interest in convincing you, because you don't sound interested in being convinced :v you should annoyed by the idea that EarthBound may be deep, and that people hold it in such reverence.

Well, in my opinion, you're only reinforcing my belief that people put Mother on a pedestal and that puts me off the series. Maybe if you attempted to show me how it's deep beyond the usual "it just is!", I'd actually have a reason to change my mind.

Not sure why it's bothering you so much, all I said was Mother and its fans being put on a pedestal put me off of it, and I didn't enjoy playing it. I'm sure there's something you hate for that reason.
 
Well, in my opinion, you're only reinforcing my belief that people put Mother on a pedestal and that puts me off the series. Maybe if you attempted to show me how it's deep beyond the usual "it just is!", I'd actually have a reason to change my mind.

Not sure why it's bothering you so much, all I said was Mother and its fans being put on a pedestal put me off of it, and I didn't enjoy playing it. I'm sure there's something you hate for that reason.

Of course. I don't advertise my irrationality. I never try to convince someone of something they specifically don't WANT to agree with. It's why I don't get into debates with tea partiers

EDIT: You're throwing your hat into the debate of "is EarthBound deep", having barely touched EarthBound and suggesting that people who disagree are overrating it. I don't discuss things I'm not personally privy to, you shouldn't either. It's annoying and disrespectful. You can discuss the early difficulty curve and your views of the fanbase, but you haven't any valid opinion on the depth of its story.
 
I requested Friday and Saturday off for Smash. I'll be ready to download it on Midnight after work. I just wish I didn't have evening shift tomorrow.
This week was tiring as all hell. But it's going to be worth it.
 
Well, in my opinion, you're only reinforcing my belief that people put Mother on a pedestal and that puts me off the series. Maybe if you attempted to show me how it's deep beyond the usual "it just is!", I'd actually have a reason to change my mind.

Not sure why it's bothering you so much, all I said was Mother and its fans being put on a pedestal put me off of it, and I didn't enjoy playing it. I'm sure there's something you hate for that reason.

Who cares what other people think of it? If it did nothing for you, that's totally fine. But trying to dismiss or generalize people who do like it is silly. They just like a game that you don't -- there's not much more to it. They're not wrong and you're not wrong.
 
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