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Prometheus 2 unlikely to contain xenomorphs
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i enjoyed it, despite its faults and its weirdness. i think i like it because it was so weird and inexplicable.
Michael Green, known for such classics like Green Lantern.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Basically, the goo weaponizes everything it comes in contact with to varying degrees, and as it evolves, it refines the biological weaponization.
Plain black goo, ingested: total breakdown/dispersal of DNA
Black goo in physical contact with organism: weaponized organism (human turns superhuman, worm turns super-worm)
Black goo diluted and ingested: weaponized cells/tissue gestates inside host, begins life-cycle for new organism.
The suggestion is not that the Deacon will become a classic Giger xenomorph, but that it's a weird sort of cousin to it, thanks to David's experimentation with the goo. The film seems to be saying (who knows, considering) that the Engineers figured out a cleaner, more efficient means of winding up at the classic ALIEN, as seen by the frieze on their big-head-todd hall of pedestals.
I also STILL strongly doubt this ever actually becomes a movie.
Plain black goo, ingested: total breakdown/dispersal of DNA
Black goo in physical contact with organism: weaponized organism (human turns superhuman, worm turns super-worm)
Black goo diluted and ingested: weaponized cells/tissue gestates inside host, begins life-cycle for new organism.
The suggestion is not that the Deacon will become a classic Giger xenomorph, but that it's a weird sort of cousin to it, thanks to David's experimentation with the goo. The film seems to be saying (who knows, considering) that the Engineers figured out a cleaner, more efficient means of winding up at the classic ALIEN, as seen by the frieze on their big-head-todd hall of pedestals.
I also STILL strongly doubt this ever actually becomes a movie.
Garcia el Gringo
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I don't need to see the classic Xenomorph featured prominently in the Prometheus sequels, but I'd be interested to see a mature Deacon in part 2. The Deacon we saw teased at the end of the first film was possibly in its equivalent of chestbuster form; in this immature form it's similar enough to a Xeno to scratch that nostalgic itch for the audience, but there's a lot of potential for it to mature into something mysterious, imposing and shocking like the adult Xeno was in Alien. It'd be tough to provide thrills with the classic Xeno.
Bobby Roberts
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If you want, you can imagine the deacon grew up and became the bio-raptors in Pitch Black.
Which is a better ALIEN movie than Resurrection, AvP, AvP 2, and Prometheus.
If you watch AA, Von Daniken is talked about and on it all the time, so the younglings would get the reference.
Discotheque
Banned
this buffoon needs to take a break for once.
Engineers are so boring tho.
I was hoping for the weird elephant alien.
But nope, it was just a suit.
Yeah, my interest plunged off a cliff after that. The final movie did not restore it.
Not dementia. A wine buzz.
Conkersbadfurday
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Good. Prometheus set the mantle for something amazing, and it's far from the Xenos and hopefully somewhere much much worse 
shinobi602
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I'm fine with that. I got my fill of xenomorphs already.
I enjoyed Prometheus, looking forward to the sequel a lot.
I enjoyed Prometheus, looking forward to the sequel a lot.
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Deleted member 80556
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Article @ AV Club
Original Yahoo UK source
I do agree with Scott that the beast is done and cooked, but it makes you wonder why spend an entire movie establishing the species origins if the sequel won't involve xenomorphs:
Can someone explain this chart? Needlessly confusing universe.
Bobby Roberts
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Bobby Roberts
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The reason the xenomorph remained in the script is because the original script was straight up an Alien prequel. Same moon, same shit that would be the derelict ship in Alien, face huggers, chest bursters, eggs. All that shit. Then Lindellof got involved and changed all the small details and Ridley went with it because he was more interested in drinking as much wine as he could. If you watch the 4 hour doc included on the bluray, it is the story of Ridley not giving a shit and going with any suggestion because all he cared about was getting to the end of shooting so he could bring his wine out and get everyone buzzed.
Bobby Roberts
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Backwards. Lindelof came aboard BECAUSE Ridley wanted to change the small details after the suggestion from Fox to do so.
The four-hour doc (which is great) makes this clear. The changes came top down. Fox -> Ridley -> Lindelof.
Lindelof didn't "fool" Ridley Scott into making a bunch of dumb decisions. Lindelof had to incorporate those dumb decisions on Ridley's orders.
Of course, Lindelof came up with some dumb ways to implement those dumb ideas as well.
He also writes like a 13 year old boy rattling off a story to impress his peers.
His actual screenwriting infuriates me.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
No, the Black Goo is psychically sensitive.
Engineer- Sacrifices himself to create life, seeds life on earth
Doctor Dreamy- Wants to be the father of Noomi's children, squid baby. After he sees eye worm he thinks he's sick, the goo makes it happen
Mohawk guy dies in terror- becomes terror monster.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I dunno, I dont' see anything in the film really pointing at that.
Granted, you could probably argue that there's not much textual evidence of my interpretation, either, but I'd argue then that there's at least MORE textual evidence leaning towards my interpretation than yours.
But I guess it's possible. Maybe they'll run with that in the Part 2 that probably won't ever get made. Might make it more interesting that way.
I mean - Deck'ard's explanation is probably the most plausible, really
That can't be real.
[googles]
Jesus.
Shaw ROLLS ACROSS THE FLOOR as the entire room CANTS -- JESUS
-- WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? -- IS IT ANOTHER
EARTHQUAKE?!? -- WHAM!!!! NOW, A BENDING OF METAL -- ALARMS
GO OFF --
-- WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? -- IS IT ANOTHER
EARTHQUAKE?!? -- WHAM!!!! NOW, A BENDING OF METAL -- ALARMS
GO OFF --
[...]
A TORNADO OF VICIOUS WHIRLING LIMBS -- AN ORGANISM WITH ONE
PURPOSE ONLY AS IT --
ATTACKS THE ENGINEER!
It DROPS SHAW -- She hits the ground -- STILL HOLDING HER
BREATH -- JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY --
PURPOSE ONLY AS IT --
ATTACKS THE ENGINEER!
It DROPS SHAW -- She hits the ground -- STILL HOLDING HER
BREATH -- JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY --
The guy sure like to use JESUS a whole lot in his stage directions.
It isn't just Lindelof. When I watched the doc, what I saw was people from prop designers to editors suggesting shit and Ridley not caring at all and just going with it. He'd be like, "oh sure" while having a glass of wine. Once he got to actually making the movie, it seemed like he had zero passion for it. It felt like his whole attitude towards it was, "Oh. That seems cool. Let's go with that I guess."
Wow, he writes like a child. Is that how all writing is in Hollywood? Would explain the shallowness and lack of cohesiveness in the plots.
RadioHeadAche
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Well, Aliens: Infestation for the Nintendo DS has it as a boss in the derelict ship.
Seems he came to believe Alien and Blade Runner were all his. He thinks he's an SF auteur, now.
If he could just keep his plot ideas to himself and hire a good writer...
HP_Wuvcraft
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Article @ AV Club
Original Yahoo UK source
I do agree with Scott that the beast is done and cooked, but it makes you wonder why spend an entire movie establishing the species origins if the sequel won't involve xenomorphs:
Oh my God, this movie was originally Alien 5. The first Prometheus very clearly set up they created the Xenomorphs as weapons. That was the entire MacGuffin. The movie very clearly set up that as the backbone.
What.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I'm confuzzled by all this. So, is Prometheus a prequel in the classic sense or one of those, kinda side-sequels?
Prometheus had that Xenomorp-ish thing at the end, and all that other lore. This is like LOST 2.0, at this point.
Prometheus had that Xenomorp-ish thing at the end, and all that other lore. This is like LOST 2.0, at this point.
my complaint is that the movie raised more questions than answers and that felt cheap. also this sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaKqOMGPWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaKqOMGPWc
Absolutely not.
There is quite a range of styles when writing scripts, and while I haven't read many script, of those that I did, this is abnormally awful.
That is somewhat reassuring. But how in the hell could anyone read that and take it seriously? Boggles my mind.
Noisepurge
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Well they just wanted to give a little fanservice at the end by showing a pre-cursor species to the classic Xenomorph. I don't think they even planned any further than that.
It's like "haHA! This story sort of did give birth to the classic Aliens, but we won't be showing you what happens next and in between here and Alien 1, use your imagination."
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The movie was originally Alien 5 until Lindelof came on board and started fanjacking off.
It is painfully obvious the entire movie is a prequel.
I don't want a shitty brave new world movie though
samurai1226
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Ridley Scott always said that Prometheus wont be a prequel to aliens, but fans will see some connections in the universe. I was so disappointed when the whole movie was just a plain Aliens prequel and the complete ending was spoiled in the very first trailer.
So yeah, just do whatever you want Scott, im not going too watch another Prometheus movie...
So yeah, just do whatever you want Scott, im not going too watch another Prometheus movie...
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