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Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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GQman2121 said:
I can't help but feel bad for Capt. Ron Johnson. He obviously means well, but he's clearly being used by his superiors. How can they not give him all the information that is going to be made public before it's released?
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That's the vibe I got as well. I hope he gets some promotion out of this though.
 
I have to speculate as to what my employee saw, because there is no way that I could have spoken to him and asked.

But let me go ahead and construe this most favorably for him.
 
GQman2121 said:
I can't help but feel bad for Capt. Ron Johnson. He obviously means well, but he's clearly being used by his superiors. How can they not give him all the information that is going to be made public before it's released?
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He was actually asked about this during the press conference earlier today. He basically said he didn't know why he didn't get the information before the public.
 
Zoe said:
According to the report, he asked for several boxes and then tried to pass one to his friend. The clerk saw this and called him out on it, so that's when he grabbed the rest, pushed the clerk away, and took off.

There was a female witness to this who was the one who called 911.
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Thanks for the account. Hadn't heard those details. Why did I hear he tried to pay for the merchandise though? Was no money ever shown?
 
Veritigo_X said:
He was actually asked about this during the press conference earlier today. He basically said he didn't know why he didn't get the information before the public.
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Well, state police aren't involved in the investigation and I think the locals resent getting pushed off crowd control in their own neighborhood. The FBI hasn't said a peep, AFAIK.
 
timetokill said:
Ferguson Police Department: Writers Wanted

Mike Brown had just stolen a pack of cigarillos Cubans and was strolling down the middle of the street like he owned the place. Policeman Darren Wilson, a loving husband and father to 2.5 honor roll kids, was on patrol, trying to keep the streets safe, and presently he pulled up cautiously to the hulking Mike Brown and his accomplice.

"Hey fellas, would you mind keeping off the roads? Thanks."

Mike Brown stared at the officer. "Get fucked, pig."

Darren Wilson felt less than human under Brown's gaze. He pulled away, when a call came over his radio. "Store robbery reported, large black male suspect." Darren looked in his rearview mirror. There were not only one but TWO black males! Surely one of them might be the suspect, or at least know them in this tight-knit colored community! Wilson threw his car into reverse, pulling aside the negroes, and asked if they knew anything about any robberies.

Suddenly, Mike Brown took an aggressive step toward the vehicle! Lunging through the window, his black hands went instinctively for the cop's gun, a trait passed down in the Black Gene to all black males. Darren Wilson feared for his life, and accidentally fired the gun at Mike Brown.

Mike Brown staggered back, and started to run. Officer Wilson couldn't believe it... how could he run after being shot? Surely he was on the African Rage Drug, and if he got out into the community... God only knew what rampage he could go on then.

Thinking of his wife and children back home, Mr. Wilson fired another shot, striking Mike Brown in the back. "Surely that will be enough to end this menace," Darren thought, but his eyes widened as the giant black figure turned around, a sneer on his lips. Darren couldn't believe it... how could he still be standing....?

Unless...
He was inhuman?!

Officer Wilson gritted his teeth, knowing that his time had come. Clearly the animals in Ferguson had been working on this monster for some time, and were about to unleash him on unsuspecting white suburbs.

Knowing it was likely futile, Officer Wilson fired his weapon, crying out for God's help. It felt like it took so many bullets... but finally the demon fell. Darren fired at the downed body, just to be sure. Darren put his gun back in his holster, wondering when the president would call him and thank him for saving America. In the meantime, though, another call came in over the radio. Some dangerous foreigners wielding cameras were shooting policemen with them. It seemed an officer's work was never truly done.
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Stormfront's getting into the docu-drama market? Waaaaaaa.....
 
CrankyJay said:
That's the vibe I got as well. I hope he gets some promotion out of this though.
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I mean, it's basically a real world implementation of "Operation: Get Behind the Darkies".

I share the same sentiment as you though. If this fast tracks him through the ranks, all the best.
 
Just got back from work. Can you guys supply the three press conferences from today? The two Chief Wiggum did, and the one Chief Johnson did? I can't find em.
 
ridley182 said:
Releasing this footage was a brilliant idea if the goal was to make the dead kid look like a thug to the general public. People around me are already going like "Of course! I knew something like that would come to light eventually! It's always the case with these people in the end!" This isn't even some small town, either. It's SoCal FFS.

Depressing...
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I was at a funeral earlier and pretty much everyone there who was talking about it said "well, at least the truth finally came out!"
 
MechaX said:
"He said don't shoot, but he was still running. The question is to where? If he truly had nothing to fear and if he wasn't going to be a danger to someone else, he would have just stopped!"

FUUUUUUUU-
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"Your honor, my client had no way of knowing that the deceased was not one of the so-called 'X-men'."
 
SlowRevolution said:
I was at a funeral earlier and pretty much everyone there who was talking about it said "well, at least the truth finally came out!"
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I wonder how they justify killing an unarmed man surrendering in their mind? If it was their daughter, husband, son, etc, would they be fine with it if that loved one stole something from a store?

What truth has come out that makes these people feel better?
 
KingGondo said:
Hey now. Rewrites and revisions take time.
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Maybe they ran out of black sharpies.

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Camp Lo said:
Greg Jonsson ‏@Jonssonville 19m
#Ferguson chief says officer stopped Brown for walking in street, then saw he had cigars 1/2 http://bit.ly/1uCiCqz

Greg Jonsson ‏@Jonssonville 18m
#Ferguson officer knew there had been a robbery involving cigars and realized Brown might be suspect 2/2 http://bit.ly/1uCiCqz
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Is it ooochi walley or is it one mic?

timetokill said:
Ferguson Police Department: Writers Wanted

Mike Brown had just stolen a pack of cigarillos Cubans and was strolling down the middle of the street like he owned the place. Policeman Darren Wilson, a loving husband and father to 2.5 honor roll kids, was on patrol, trying to keep the streets safe, and presently he pulled up cautiously to the hulking Mike Brown and his accomplice.

"Hey fellas, would you mind keeping off the roads? Thanks."

Mike Brown stared at the officer. "Get fucked, pig."

Darren Wilson felt less than human under Brown's gaze. He pulled away, when a call came over his radio. "Store robbery reported, large black male suspect." Darren looked in his rearview mirror. There were not only one but TWO black males! Surely one of them might be the suspect, or at least know them in this tight-knit colored community! Wilson threw his car into reverse, pulling aside the negroes, and asked if they knew anything about any robberies.

Suddenly, Mike Brown took an aggressive step toward the vehicle! Lunging through the window, his black hands went instinctively for the cop's gun, a trait passed down in the Black Gene to all black males. Darren Wilson feared for his life, and accidentally fired the gun at Mike Brown.

Mike Brown staggered back, and started to run. Officer Wilson couldn't believe it... how could he run after being shot? Surely he was on the African Rage Drug, and if he got out into the community... God only knew what rampage he could go on then.

Thinking of his wife and children back home, Mr. Wilson fired another shot, striking Mike Brown in the back. "Surely that will be enough to end this menace," Darren thought, but his eyes widened as the giant black figure turned around, a sneer on his lips. Darren couldn't believe it... how could he still be standing....?

Unless...
He was inhuman?!

Officer Wilson gritted his teeth, knowing that his time had come. Clearly the animals in Ferguson had been working on this monster for some time, and were about to unleash him on unsuspecting white suburbs.

Knowing it was likely futile, Officer Wilson fired his weapon, crying out for God's help. It felt like it took so many bullets... but finally the demon fell. Darren fired at the downed body, just to be sure. Darren put his gun back in his holster, wondering when the president would call him and thank him for saving America. In the meantime, though, another call came in over the radio. Some dangerous foreigners wielding cameras were shooting policemen with them. It seemed an officer's work was never truly done.
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Roflmfao I want to be s writer. I have loads of lies.
 
Brawly Likes to Brawl said:
As plenty of have said earlier, I'm glad that a few outlets like MSNBC are grilling the fuck out of these guys, but I can't help but to wonder how on the ball they would've been about it if no reporters were arrested two nights ago.
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I think they would've been on the ball, but far more tame about it. But now that it's clear to them that Ferguson ain't playing with a fair deck, they're coming at em, both barrels loaded.

Essentially, they may have gotten away from this cleaner if they didn't do what they did. There's always a rather general understanding between law enforcement and the news media/the news media will always get some form of preferred treatment in situations like this.

Not get tear gassed. And if you go on one news outlet, you could go on them all. Now they realize they aren't your friend.
 
timetokill said:
Ferguson Police Department: Writers Wanted

Mike Brown had just stolen a pack of cigarillos Cubans and was strolling down the middle of the street like he owned the place. Policeman Darren Wilson, a loving husband and father to 2.5 honor roll kids, was on patrol, trying to keep the streets safe, and presently he pulled up cautiously to the hulking Mike Brown and his accomplice.

"Hey fellas, would you mind keeping off the roads? Thanks."

Mike Brown stared at the officer. "Get fucked, pig."

Darren Wilson felt less than human under Brown's gaze. He pulled away, when a call came over his radio. "Store robbery reported, large black male suspect." Darren looked in his rearview mirror. There were not only one but TWO black males! Surely one of them might be the suspect, or at least know them in this tight-knit colored community! Wilson threw his car into reverse, pulling aside the negroes, and asked if they knew anything about any robberies.

Suddenly, Mike Brown took an aggressive step toward the vehicle! Lunging through the window, his black hands went instinctively for the cop's gun, a trait passed down in the Black Gene to all black males. Darren Wilson feared for his life, and accidentally fired the gun at Mike Brown.

Mike Brown staggered back, and started to run. Officer Wilson couldn't believe it... how could he run after being shot? Surely he was on the African Rage Drug, and if he got out into the community... God only knew what rampage he could go on then.

Thinking of his wife and children back home, Mr. Wilson fired another shot, striking Mike Brown in the back. "Surely that will be enough to end this menace," Darren thought, but his eyes widened as the giant black figure turned around, a sneer on his lips. Darren couldn't believe it... how could he still be standing....?

Unless...
He was inhuman?!

Officer Wilson gritted his teeth, knowing that his time had come. Clearly the animals in Ferguson had been working on this monster for some time, and were about to unleash him on unsuspecting white suburbs.

Knowing it was likely futile, Officer Wilson fired his weapon, crying out for God's help. It felt like it took so many bullets... but finally the demon fell. Darren fired at the downed body, just to be sure. Darren put his gun back in his holster, wondering when the president would call him and thank him for saving America. In the meantime, though, another call came in over the radio. Some dangerous foreigners wielding cameras were shooting policemen with them. It seemed an officer's work was never truly done.
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I am so ashamed that I ROFL'd at this.
 
ErasureAcer said:
Thanks for the account. Hadn't heard those details. Why did I hear he tried to pay for the merchandise though? Was no money ever shown?
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There are a lot of pissed off people that are very upset that it looks like Brown did in fact commit a crime. Even after the friend's lawyer admitted that the robbery took place we continue to have posters concoct stories of how "he tried to pay" or "he only had 100's" or "the time stamps screwed with." The police report of the robbery gave a figure of $48 in merchandise stolen.
 
devilhawk said:
There are a lot of pissed off people that are very upset that it looks like Brown did in fact commit a crime. Even after the friend's lawyer admitted that the robbery took place we continue to have posters concoct stories of how "he tried to pay" or "he only had 100's" or "the time stamps screwed with." The police report of the robbery gave a figure of $48 in merchandise stolen.
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Regardless of when or if we get any new information on the robbery, his murder was still murder, so being angry over the robbery is a moot point.
 
Officer Wilson, as far as I know, did not know about the robbery at the time of the shooting. Even if he did know, shooting a fleeing suspect is murder.
 
devilhawk said:
There are a lot of pissed off people that are very upset that it looks like Brown did in fact commit a crime. Even after the friend's lawyer admitted that the robbery took place we continue to have posters concoct stories of how "he tried to pay" or "he only had 100's" or "the time stamps screwed with." The police report of the robbery gave a figure of $48 in merchandise stolen.
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Again, what does Brown stealing have to do with being gunned down? People are allowing the smear campaign to succeed.
 
PopeReal said:
Again, what does Brown stealing have to do with being gunned down? People are allowing the smear campaign to succeed.
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It only means something in that in the officer's trial the defense can use this as motive if they try and present a story that the officer was attacked. Brown obviously knew he had just robbed a store so his mindset would be different when approached by a cop, regardless if the cop knew or not. He possibly thought the cop knew.
 
devilhawk said:
It only means something in that in the officer's trial the defense can use this as motive if they try and present a story that the officer was attacked. Brown obviously knew he had just robbed a store so his mindset would be different when approached by a cop, regardless if the cop knew or not. He possibly thought the cop knew.
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None of this matters to the main part of the case, which is him shooting Brown while Brown runs away. And then apparently shooting him several times after he has surrendered.

Slayven said:
The media wouldn't be going so hard if the cops hadn't roughed up those two journalist.
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Bing bang boom. You arrested two of us? You tear gassed a news crew? You're going down. That's how the media is looking at it. They straight up ignored that robbery shit and put it on blast immediately. I don't see them playing ball with what the police give them whatsoever. They want heads.
 
Brown is innocent. I don't care if he fucking shot the clerk during a robbery, he was executed by Police for no reason other then being black. Since when were Police judge, jury and executioner? An innocent man is dead because of Police.
 
Wow

So I last visited this thread when there were report of riots and looting. I'm not gonna lie, GAF is my main news source for this sort of thing but this is a long thread so don't crucify me for asking potentially stupid questions, I'm catching up and don't know everything that's happened.

Now there's (alleged?) video of Brown stealing (cigars/cigarillos?) on the same day (?) he was shot. There seems to be some confusion over whether or not the policeman who shot Brown was aware of this when the incident happened. One of the damning things for the police officer is that Brown was supposedly quite far from the police car when he was shot, and that he was shot numerous times. Is there actually a know number of times he was shot? Am I right in thinking there are apparently two eyewitnesses who said they saw him run?

One of my main questions is how on earth is it, as some are saying on recent pages, not relevant to the shooting that Brown committed a crime the same day. Putting aside the emotional "this is being used to make him look like a thug" thing; sure, it no doubt is. But that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the case in hand. In what court would you ignore that?

EDIT

Also, has there been an autopsy or other investigation that can shed more light on it yet?
 
dapperbandit said:
Wow

So I last visited this thread when there were report of riots and looting. I'm not gonna lie, GAF is my main news source for this sort of thing but this is a long thread so don't crucify me for asking potentially stupid questions, I'm catching up and don't know everything that's happened.

Now there's (alleged?) video of Brown stealing (cigars/cigarillos?) on the same day (?) he was shot. There seems to be some confusion over whether or not the policeman who shot Brown was aware of this when the incident happened. One of the damning things for the police officer is that Brown was supposedly quite far from the police car when he was shot, and that he was shot numerous times. Is there actually a know number of times he was shot? Am I right in thinking there are apparently two eyewitnesses who said they saw him run?

One of my main questions is how on earth is it, as some are saying on recent pages, not relevant to the shooting that Brown committed a crime the same day. Putting aside the emotional "this is being used to make him look like a thug" thing; sure, it no doubt is. But that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the case in hand. In what court would you ignore that?
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Seven to nine times.

Two witness, one one twitter, the other has been doing news interviews.

The policed chief has gone on record to say that the police officer who killed him was not aware of the robbery.
 
dapperbandit said:
One of my main questions is how on earth is it, as some are saying on recent pages, not relevant to the shooting that Brown committed a crime the same day. Putting aside the emotional "this is being used to make him look like a thug" thing; sure, it no doubt is. But that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the case in hand. In what court would you ignore that?
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The chief of police came out and said that the robbery had nothing to do with the shooting. The cop did not know that Brown allegedly robbed that store.
 
dapperbandit said:
One of my main questions is how on earth is it, as some are saying on recent pages, not relevant to the shooting that Brown committed a crime the same day. Putting aside the emotional "this is being used to make him look like a thug" thing; sure, it no doubt is. But that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the case in hand. In what court would you ignore that?
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You would ignore it because it doesn't change anything about the fact that the officer wasn't in danger when he shot Brown while Brown was running away and killed Brown while he was dozens of feet away.

It's not relevant to the officer's actions because the officer wasn't aware of what Brown had done earlier. It could ONLY be potentially relevant if Brown thought the officer knew and attacked him for it, but regardless of whether he knew or not, he still had his hands up and was surrendering from a safe distance away when the officer killed him.

The main reason they're releasing it is to try and diminish sympathy for him. That's it.
 
dapperbandit said:
Wow

So I last visited this thread when there were report of riots and looting. I'm not gonna lie, GAF is my main news source for this sort of thing but this is a long thread so don't crucify me for asking potentially stupid questions, I'm catching up and don't know everything that's happened.

Now there's (alleged?) video of Brown stealing (cigars/cigarillos?) on the same day (?) he was shot. There seems to be some confusion over whether or not the policeman who shot Brown was aware of this when the incident happened. One of the damning things for the police officer is that Brown was supposedly quite far from the police car when he was shot, and that he was shot numerous times. Is there actually a know number of times he was shot? Am I right in thinking there are apparently two eyewitnesses who said they saw him run?

One of my main questions is how on earth is it, as some are saying on recent pages, not relevant to the shooting that Brown committed a crime the same day. Putting aside the emotional "this is being used to make him look like a thug" thing; sure, it no doubt is. But that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the case in hand. In what court would you ignore that?
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Again, the police admitted that the shooting was not connected to the theft.

And even if it would have been, he was surrendering and then gunned down.
 
I just saw on MSNBC that the family of the victim had another autopsy and will release the results at a press conference. I don't think they said when though.
 
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