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[Mononoke]

She was a housekeeper for Sam Tuttle for decades right? She saw all the kids grow up. I'm sure she knew stuff about them. In fact, I personally prefer to think of the possibility that she was the influence. There's no evidence that Sam Tuttle was behind any of this. We know that Billy Lee was, and the Childress family was, and Eddie probably knew something about these stuff. What if part of the occult beliefs they practiced and especially the ones Errol latched on to, were actually stories and stuff she told them as kids, while looking after them. Scary eh?

Scary indeed!

I think my view on Carcosa is wrong. As my posts indicated last night I thought it was more Errol's layer. That the family rituals was it's own thing. But Ledoux said Carcosa is where old men sacrifice children.

 

[inky]

What if part of the occult beliefs they practiced and especially the ones Errol latched on to, were actually stories and stuff she told them as kids, while looking after them. Scary eh?

The bird traps (or devil nets) for example.
...

I spent all night thinking about some of my favorite aspects of the show. The only thing I found hard to reconcile was the jump from the green ears thing to painting the house to the killer himself. It was too much of a stretch, but in the end it helped keep the series concise and focused on the characters, which I appreciated ten times more.

That finale was fantastic. The songs are going to be stuck in my head for a long, long time.

 

[tekumseh]

This season of True Detective joins No Country For Old Men as examples of simply fascinating character studies for me. The show was never about the resolution of the crimes.

 

[Solo]

Ascension removes me from the disc and the loop. I'm near final stage. Some mornings, I can see the infernal plane.

Something about this links up beautifully with the imagery from the pilot where Errol lights a fire in the brush to signal his Dora Lange sacrifice.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Do you guys think Next Season will have mentions of The Yellow King? or will he jump to other occult type folklore/stories?

 

[chaobreaker]

So what should we expect for season 2? All I know that it's going to be another self-contained story about 2 detectives working on some case that might take place in Louisiana.

 

[Real Hero]

Do you guys think Next Season will have mentions of The Yellow King? or will he jump to other occult type folklore/stories?

I doubt it will be mentioned at all.

 

[Solo]

Do you guys think Next Season will have mentions of The Yellow King? or will he jump to other occult type folklore/stories?

Nope. I think each season will be 100% self-contained. I can't see The Yellow King being part of a series-long thematic tapestry. But I've been wrong before.

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

I've been to a couple old forts around southern Alabama and the gulf coast, it would be awesome to visit the Carcosa location.

 

[Blackhead]

Do you guys think Next Season will have mentions of The Yellow King? or will he jump to other occult type folklore/stories?

meh occult is over played.

Give me two IRS agents investigating a pyramid scheme cult or a fake religion.

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

Do you guys think Next Season will have mentions of The Yellow King? or will he jump to other occult type folklore/stories?

He'll be back in season 3 when it's revealed that all the crazy people were right and Marty's father-in-law was the yellow king all along

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Well that finale pretty much sucked. I hope season two is better than this.

I'm reading so many troll comments like this all over the internet. It seriously bums me out.

First with Breaking Bad and now this show.

I hate people some times.

 

[duckroll]

meh occult is over played.

Give me two IRS agents investigating a pyramid scheme cult or a fake religion.

It's still going to be "occult" next season apparently, but this time it's about the "secret history" of the US transportation system. Probably set in southern California.

 

[Moff]

all in all, the show didnt live up to what I hoped it would be, it was still an excellent piece of tv, but I really loved the first three episodes most, and as I said a few weeks before, the tone of the show changed a lot as the pace picked up, starting with the biker episode.

still, it was excellent, and the ending was satisfying, MM was stellar, I cant imagine him not getting the emmy for that. and season 2 will have a very hard time to deliever the same kind of overall quality.

 

[Dennis]

Ranking:

1. Episode 5
2. Episode 4 tied with Episode 8
4. The rest

 

[Cornballer]

- Andy Greenwald and other Grantland writers on the finale

 

[Dennis]

For next season I hope they keep an "occult" atmosphere simmering under the surface but with no connection to the first season









and then in the final episode of the season ties it into Carcosa/Yellow King

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Ascension removes me from the disc and the loop. I'm near final stage. Some mornings, I can see the infernal plane.

True Detectives version of "this isn't even my final form"

New meme in the making, I think.

 

[inky]

meh occult is over played.

Give me two IRS agents investigating a pyramid scheme cult or a fake religion.

Meh. You could say fake religion is overplayed too. It is all about the treatment of the subject in the end.

 

[Rixxan]

- Andy Greenwald and other Grantland writers on the finale

jesus Greenwald really rode this one out didn't he

pretty transparent, imo

 

[Dio Brando]

Goddamn, loved the ending. Cant wait to see what they can do with season two.

 

[Dennis]

I admit it annoys me that so many found the Carcosa/chase scene too long and saying that a movie would never use 20 minutes for that......


.......but that is part of what I loved about it! Immensely tense and satisfying and boy did those 20 minutes fly by - no flat circle there!

 

[duckroll]

Ranking time?!

Best Overall Episode: Episode 5
Best Thematic Episodes: Episode 1 and Episode 8
Best Technical Episode: Episode 4
Worst Episode But Still Better Than Most TV: Episode 6

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Let's see them take on Scientology and crazed brainwashing while investigating the secret occult history of the United States Transportation System.

 

[Dennis]

Ranking time?!

Best Overall Episode: Episode 5
Best Thematic Episodes: Episode 1 and Episode 8
Best Technical Episode: Episode 4
Worst Episode But Still Better Than Most TV: Episode 6

Edit: lol nm I can't count to 8

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Let's see them take on Scientology and crazed brainwashing while investigating the secret occult history of the United States Transportation System.

I think the disappearance of Los Angeles' Mass Transit would be fascinating if that's what he's talking about...

 

[Blackhead]

She was a housekeeper for Sam Tuttle for decades right? She saw all the kids grow up. I'm sure she knew stuff about them. In fact, I personally prefer to think of the possibility that she was the influence. There's no evidence that Sam Tuttle was behind any of this. We know that Billy Lee was, and the Childress family was, and Eddie probably knew something about these stuff. What if part of the occult beliefs they practiced and especially the ones Errol latched on to, were actually stories and stuff she told them as kids, while looking after them. Scary eh?

not bad

It's still going to be "occult" next season apparently, but this time it's about the "secret history" of the US transportation system. Probably set in southern California.

I thought that was a joke haha. White collar crime I'd definitely find entertaining haha

 

[Cornballer]

- NY Mag: Was There a Hidden Comic Book Homage in the True Detective Finale?

 

[PBY]

jesus Greenwald really rode this one out didn't he

pretty transparent, imo

Transparent in what way? Not everyone had to like it, I think dissent is good for criticism when it's articulated as well as greenwald has.

 

[Solo]

I'll just update my previous list:

1. Ep. 5 (Leydoux takedown, 2002 jump, Rust gets back on the case, that delicious unreliable narrator execution)
2. Ep. 8 (Carcosa, Cohle's arc conclusion, that final scene)
3. Ep. 1 (Pretty much a note perfect pilot that sucked me in wholly)
4. Ep. 4 (Craaaaaaash)
5. Ep. 3 (the lead up to the identification of the killer, or so we thought)
6. Ep. 7 (The glimpse into the pathetic lives of two broken men who need redemption)
7. Ep. 6 (Marty/Rust partnership dissolves, Marty/Maggie marriage ends)
8. Ep. 2 (dat Daddario.....and other stuff)

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I think the disappearance of Los Angeles' Mass Transit would be fascinating if that's what he's talking about...

I've never been to LA, but what's that about? Never heard of it. I thought LA had a subway/train system.

 

[RangerX]

Just watched the finale. Absolout fucking perfection. I'm really glad Rust did'nt die. The last exchange between him and Marty was really cool and hints at Rust living life more positively in the future,

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

Not sure I could rank the episodes. I am glad I can watch the entire series now, I'm probably going to marathon this start to finish quite a few times.

This was filmed like one big movie, I think the breaks in the story they were forced to make in order to create the episodes were pretty arbitrary in the scheme of things.

 

[DiscoJon]

So what was the deal with the missing girl on the highway billboard? Misdirection?

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I've never been to LA, but what's that about? Never heard of it. I thought LA had a subway/train system.

It has one, that's not particularly great but at one point it had an amazing mass transit system that was gradually bought out, decommissioned and replaced by Freeways and the Automobile. Who Framed Roger Rabbit is loosely based on that story.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

I've never been to LA, but what's that about? Never heard of it. I thought LA had a subway/train system.

Judge Doom had the Red Car dismantled so he could make a freeway. Rapidly prepared food was also his dream.

 

[kingocfs]

I can't say I have a favorite ep, but the second half of ep 4 elevated this series for me. The tension from when Rust went into that biker bar until the end of the long-shot was fucking crazy. Last ep of TV to make me feel like that was Crawl Space, didn't think I'd ever experience it again. Golden age indeed.

 

[verbum]

Let's see them take on Scientology and crazed brainwashing while investigating the secret occult history of the United States Transportation System.

apportation

TITLE: apport (occultism)
...its passage through other material objects. Apports usually occur during a séance (q.v.) and may involve living or inanimate objects. The apporting of human beings is sometimes called transportation. Spiritualists explain apport as a process involving dematerialization and subsequent reintegration of the objects. Although numerous instances of apport have been reported, many have...

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/603105/transportation

Edit: Also, if I remember correctly, in the early 1900's, the Masons controlled employment on quite few railroads.

 

[inky]

So what was the deal with the missing girl on the highway billboard? Misdirection?

What I took from that was that it was just meant to be symbolic, like the billboards on The Great Gatsby or Less Than Zero. It ties with how Rust tries to connect other missing persons to their original case, and his own loss.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

- NY Mag: Was There a Hidden Comic Book Homage in the True Detective Finale?

The Cerebus reference was a little more overt.

 

[Solo]

So what was the deal with the missing girl on the highway billboard? Misdirection?

It was Marie Fonteneau, no? Girl who was abducted/ritualistically murdered by Tuttle and co.

 

[kirblar]

The Cerebus reference was a little more overt.

That's an art term.

 

[Frost_Ace]

Liked the finale, Errol and his hal sister were creepy as fuck.

 

[Stark]

Forgot to say, fantastic finale and I'm glad they didn't cover every single question and left it up to the viewer and just focused on "their guy" as Marty put it.

I felt more from Rust's case and his breakdown. Really well done and made me tear up a bit but both were fantastic.

I wasn't disappointed by Rust's "optimism" there was a change in him when he opened up to Marty and when he reached that "space" and it made me feel for him, both happy and sad that yes he accepts, at least, Marty and sees some meaning to continue, but the ones he really loved are gone.

All in all, a really nice bittersweet end to all the gritty and dark tones from throughout the show.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

That's an art term.

just let me have this one

 

[Extra Sauce]

I'm reading so many troll comments like this all over the internet. It seriously bums me out.

First with Breaking Bad and now this show.

I hate people some times.

Every great work of art has its share of naysayers. It would be more worrying if everyone liked it.

 

[Real Hero]

So what was the deal with the missing girl on the highway billboard? Misdirection?

I don't think this show had any misdirections

 

[Sanjuro]

Didn't you see the cosmic portal that almost opened enough to let Cthulhu step into our world?

They explained that. It wasn't anything supernatural, it was just Rust being Rust.

 

[Solo]

Dennis is in Carcosa now.

 

[Future PhaZe]

In a show that's been rather morbid and depressing from the start I'm super pleased that they went with an optimistic if not happy ending.