Duallusion
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Haha, thanks
EDIT: And I'm still proud of myself for guessing who the killer was in that episode we first see him for less then a minute
And it wasn't even because I recognized him from Boardwalk Empire.
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Haha, thanks
EDIT: And I'm still proud of myself for guessing who the killer was in that episode we first see him for less then a minute
And it wasn't even because I recognized him from Boardwalk Empire.
bunbun777
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season 2 spoilers
Just kidding but I have high hopes for next season, should be great. Good job Remus!
Just kidding but I have high hopes for next season, should be great. Good job Remus!
reptilescorpio
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Set design was off the fucking charts. Whole department should get 70 Emmy's for that madness. Blew the roof off my expectations of Carcosa.
Teared up a little when Marty broke down. Really strong moment. You can tell he is full of so much regret.
Found the final monologue great but was a bit put off by the staging. Not sure how to put it, just felt like the air had come out of the sail at that moment strangely.
All in all a great end to the show.
Teared up a little when Marty broke down. Really strong moment. You can tell he is full of so much regret.
Found the final monologue great but was a bit put off by the staging. Not sure how to put it, just felt like the air had come out of the sail at that moment strangely.
All in all a great end to the show.
I thought it started really rough, the incest would have been better left implied. And they went back to it for a second scene? Just to make sure you knew how grotesque the bad guy was. Not to mention I never do like when the villain is only really introduced at the very end.
Anyway, it picked up steam from there. The "here comes the cavalry" trope was blunt with the cell phone and whatnot, but I didn't really mind it. Just another flair for the dramatic in a long line of many. What really struck me is how well Rust's hospital stay and final scene were handled. Looking back on it, there were so many potential pitfalls for it go all sappy, the police coming in hat in hand to apologize or Maggie or something. No one is there to validate his trials and tell him what a great job he did, but he is in a much better place mentally when we leave him. Good stuff, even if I couldn't help but think about Rocky while those two were convalescing.
Anyway, it picked up steam from there. The "here comes the cavalry" trope was blunt with the cell phone and whatnot, but I didn't really mind it. Just another flair for the dramatic in a long line of many. What really struck me is how well Rust's hospital stay and final scene were handled. Looking back on it, there were so many potential pitfalls for it go all sappy, the police coming in hat in hand to apologize or Maggie or something. No one is there to validate his trials and tell him what a great job he did, but he is in a much better place mentally when we leave him. Good stuff, even if I couldn't help but think about Rocky while those two were convalescing.
the only thing i didn't really 'get' was the dude in the shed - that was errol's father? so he was just torturing him over a number of years or what?
i'm a bit confused by rust's 'cosmos hallucination' as well - i could understand if happened after the stabbing (i.e. it was a NDE) but it was before. any ideas?
i'm a bit confused by rust's 'cosmos hallucination' as well - i could understand if happened after the stabbing (i.e. it was a NDE) but it was before. any ideas?
reptilescorpio
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I felt like the two incest scenes get you in a "this is going to get even more fucked up" mindset before they ratchet to back from the gross and gory into a thick, oppressive tension as Marty and Cohle arrive on the scene to try and find some closure.
I was expecting more victims and torture, so thankfully that didn't happen lol
I was expecting more victims and torture, so thankfully that didn't happen lol
reptilescorpio
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I assumed it was Errol's father. Since his father abused him as a child he was getting back at him, and then some. I'm pretty sure he was breathing, Errol was bringing him water at the least.
Also on the drive into Carcosa Marty asked Cohle if he was still having his hallucinations and he said yes, so it was just another one like the spiral of birds years ago. Us as viewers usually don't get to see that.
It looked to me that he was using the water to drip out of those bags, I guess to keep the room humid...does that affect decomposition?
That's what I think. Remember that guy from the movie Se7en who had been tortured for years? In this case, I think it's some sort of punishment for what his father did to his face, among other things.
reptilescorpio
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Messypandas
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Rust suffered neural damage and chemical flashbacks from his days undercover in a drug ring. Hes also a synesthete. We've seen him hallucinate trails while driving and bird murmurations before.
There's some hording type behavior going on in the house, so why not keep pops around? The hallucinations are a callback to what's been going on with Rust for a long time.
Did we figure out what that stone structure was? When Rust just went in I thought it was a barn, then I saw the stone and thought foundation for something left unfinished, but then that last chamber.
i must have completely missed this, thanks!
reptilescorpio
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The structure at the end is an actual civil war fort in that location apparently.
His hallucinations are usually a distortion of actual reality. In this case, the dome nature of the chamber along with the open circular ceiling with the last bits of daylight flowing in already creates a feeling of a vortex for any normal person. Throw in Cohle's state of mind at the time and his mental condition and I don't see anything confusing about it.
His hallucinations are usually a distortion of actual reality. In this case, the dome nature of the chamber along with the open circular ceiling with the last bits of daylight flowing in already creates a feeling of a vortex for any normal person. Throw in Cohle's state of mind at the time and his mental condition and I don't see anything confusing about it.
It took me pretty long to identify the guy as Remus. He's good.
Messypandas
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I imagine the hallucination is more to do with the sound. The reverberations in hollow open air structure like that, the low bass circular hum. I imagine it triggered his synesthesia.
HalfBakedProphet
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OK, woke up early finally saw the episode from start to finish. Still bitter I didn't get to watch last night.
Was pleasantly surprised it was a semi-happy, if not a little bitter-sweet ending (Marty's family coming to see him. The look of regret on his face. God damn). Really shocked Rust survived, in a good way. I want the follow up series of Rust taking up zen meditation and wandering the earth searching for meaning, helping people along the way.
I have two inconsequential questions.
1)Why'd Errol kill his own dog?
2)Was the final bricked structure the same place the old sacrifices took place?
I was happy with the finale overall. One of my favorite seasons of television ever.
Was pleasantly surprised it was a semi-happy, if not a little bitter-sweet ending (Marty's family coming to see him. The look of regret on his face. God damn). Really shocked Rust survived, in a good way. I want the follow up series of Rust taking up zen meditation and wandering the earth searching for meaning, helping people along the way.
I have two inconsequential questions.
1)Why'd Errol kill his own dog?
2)Was the final bricked structure the same place the old sacrifices took place?
I was happy with the finale overall. One of my favorite seasons of television ever.
Gozer the Gozerian
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Man I never expected this show to have as optimistic of an ending as it did. I thought for sure that Marty and Rust would both end up having to suffer in some way, if not straight up die, for all the sketchy shit they'd done over the past 17 years.
Dr.Horrible
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For question 1 I assumed it was so he didn't give away his location by following him.
SlowRevolution
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Think the show kind of lost steam in the last two episodes, but it was still great. Kind of wish the last episode was a little longer, the part where they were chasing down Errol was amazing and I wouldn't want it cut down at all, but it took up a pretty long time. Would've liked the other parts to have had more room to breathe.
BenjaminBirdie
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That was one hell of a stuck landing.
A gentleman and a scholar!
To send the coldest of shivers down my spine. Seriously. God tier chills.
But I suspect it's about Carcosa and Errol's views on ascension and whatnot.
I loved the episode. I love the optimism at the very end, was not expecting that. I would have liked to find out more about the Tuttles and the other powerful men involved in the origins of all this stuff, but I guess it wasn't really about that as much as it was about Rust and Marty.
I can't wait to see what season 2 will be about and who is in it. I've been thinking all along that they'll go for much smaller stars and avoid any attempt at matching McConaughey and Woody, but now I'm not so sure. This show has blown up pretty big. Might not be too difficult to attract more big names.
I can't wait to see what season 2 will be about and who is in it. I've been thinking all along that they'll go for much smaller stars and avoid any attempt at matching McConaughey and Woody, but now I'm not so sure. This show has blown up pretty big. Might not be too difficult to attract more big names.
HalfBakedProphet
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they mentioned in the Inside the Episode that Errol was eager for this confrontation. He wasn't looking to escape.
Gozer the Gozerian
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Ya but the dog was being loud it was going to get in the way of his monologue
talisayNon
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I think it was episode 2 when Cohle took a picture of that green house. He was canvassing for clues, and I remember thinking that scene lingered a little longer than any other scene. Now we know why.
Amazing TV.
Boom I was right. 42:14 on episode 2
Can someone cap it?
Amazing TV.
Boom I was right. 42:14 on episode 2
Can someone cap it?
roosters93
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I like the part where Marty drank out of a cup in hospital
Made me snicker
Made me snicker
Messypandas
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Nothing of the sort. Although there is strong occult vibes and weird hallucination scenes.
Man, Cohle's arc is something else. Thinking about where he was in 1995 and where he ends up in 2012, and the course of events that pulled him from feeling like humanity was a blight that needed to be wiped out to believing that while life is cosmically cruel and ugly, it's worth sticking around for, is really profound. One of the better executed character arcs I've ever seen in television.
And of course Marty is intrinsically linked to all of that. Him and Rust are bonded in way no two other people could ever be. They are essentially the only true friend each other has.
And of course Marty is intrinsically linked to all of that. Him and Rust are bonded in way no two other people could ever be. They are essentially the only true friend each other has.
neoism
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lol Im an atheist and I cried to0 MM acted the shit out of that.. <3
Rust talking about his daughter was just heart wrenching, and really paints how tragic and fucked up his life has been and how Marty is so lucky to still have family even if he doesn't get to be with them all the time.
One of the best things about this last episode is that there were no stupid twists in the end. The pieces were there to be put together from the beginning, and there wasn't any shock "Marty's daughter is the final victim!" moment or anything like that.
Such a contrast to stuff like Game of Thrones where the only reason you watch is because you're just waiting for the next shock moment where your worst fears come true.
True Detective was 'pure' in a pretty unique way for modern TV. Loved it.
One of the best things about this last episode is that there were no stupid twists in the end. The pieces were there to be put together from the beginning, and there wasn't any shock "Marty's daughter is the final victim!" moment or anything like that.
Such a contrast to stuff like Game of Thrones where the only reason you watch is because you're just waiting for the next shock moment where your worst fears come true.
True Detective was 'pure' in a pretty unique way for modern TV. Loved it.
neoism
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yup I didn't get any religion from what he said... He was crying for his daughter but also because he was still alive...
Rust is the Atheist Superman the internet has been waiting for.
I thought it was just about him finding peace with himself and accepting everything.
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