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Content Roundup - Episode 8 - Form and Void

Reviews:

- Sepinwall's review
- IGN review
- MTV review
- The New Republic
- NY Times on the finale
- Rolling Stone review​

Videos

- Inside the Episode (youtube)
- The Altar​

Other

- Sepinwall Interview: 'True Detective' creator Nic Pizzolatto looks back on season 1
- HBO episode synopsis
- Final lines from the show:

"You're looking at it wrong, the sky thing. "
"How's that?"
"Well, once there was only dark. If you ask me the light is winning.”

- GIFs from Warming Glow
- GIFs from NY Mag
- Slate.com: Here Is Rust’s Final Speech From True Detective (transcription of the final scene)
- A few promo pics and other content from the darknessbecomesyou website
- Closing credits song: "The Angry River" - The Hat, Father John Misty, & S. I. Istwa (available on iTunes)
- Variety: True Detective Finale Overwhelms HBO Go​

 

[KHarvey16]

All the Sheriff confirmed was that Childress is the one that changed the report, and told him to keep quiet. The green house stuff, was from Lange, and was completely unrelated. It was the ultimate break in their case.

The green house stuff is strengthened by everything they've learned about Childress up until then. Without the rest of it you have a guy who might have been there to paint a house green.

 

[potam]

it was rust

it was carcossa

 

[amnesiac]

now we have to wait another year

 

[JasonUresti]

Like all religions, you have those more fanatical and dedicated than others.

Errol clearly bought totally into the family belief system. While the others might not have thought what he was doing was wise or in their best interests, he was family and just practicing their faith the way he thought proper, and perhaps the way the others would if less inhibited.

I don't think you have to go nearly so far as to say he was the leader or they were scared of him. Errol was part of the family, and they would do what they could to protect him and also to protect themselves by keeping him from being captured and potentially spilling secrets about the family.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

This is gonna get alotta mileage.

 

[potam]

This is gonna get alotta mileage.

"this thread is fucking stupid. I'm out"

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

This is gonna get alotta mileage.

HAHAHA AWESOME!

 

[brianjones]

i liked the rusty/marty stuff but the case resolution was kinda underwhelming

thought the light/darkness talk at the end was kind of cheesy too.. "seems theres a lot more darkness than light" or whatever

 

[real_slime]

You think he saw the light from Lost?

No matter how good he was at preserving the life of his abusive father Se7en-style

As opposed to a certain other HBO show in which intrafamilial fucking involves some of the most attractive human beings alive

in the redneck-horror tradition of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills Have Eyes, or even Deliverance. By locating its human monsters in the countryside

(Beat that, Heisenberg.)

dude has no thoughts, just an internet voicebox

 

[Fatalah]

an idiotic review

Wouldn't say it's idiotic. Rolling Stone falls in line with the Boston Globe article about the show being overrated.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Wouldn't say it's idiotic. Rolling Stone falls in line with the Boston Globe article about the show being overrated.

Yes we all read your thread.

 

[real_slime]

Wouldn't say it's idiotic. Rolling Stone falls in line with the Boston Globe article about the show being overrated.

i've pointed out the show's flawed writing since the started EDIT - think it's a fantastic show btw - RESUME POST -, but these idiots are writing anything remotely worth paying for. i've gotten much better and more interesting analysis outta this topic so far.

 

[PBY]

i've pointed out the show's flawed writing since the start, but these idiots are writing anything remotely worth paying for. i've gotten much better and more interesting analysis outta this topic so far.

He liked the ep tho?
Don't understand your reaction to it.

 

[Grifter]

There's something profoundly sad about going to a forum to throw out "I told you sos."

 

[potam]

There's something profoundly sad about going to a forum to throw out "I told you sos."

Why? It's less obnoxious than having a friend do it in real life.

 

[Jayhawk]

HBO posted a music video on YouTube of the closing song.
http://youtu.be/08CddEWzYnQ

 

[James Woods]

I'm seeing a lot of atheists pissed off by the final monologue (elsewhere, not here). I thought it was nice. I had some tears in my eyes.

 

[The Return of]

i liked the rusty/marty stuff but the case resolution was kinda underwhelming

thought the light/darkness talk at the end was kind of cheesy too.. "seems theres a lot more darkness than light" or whatever

Maybe, it's because I like a little bit of cheese every now and then, but I actually didn't really mind that. Felt a bit natural to me as this was really the first time we ever see Rust breakdown and Marty attempts to talk in a way he does. It wasn't all that serious anyway

 

[The Artful Dodger]

There's something profoundly sad about going to a forum to throw out "I told you sos."

I took a class on Gothic literature. I sorta knew alotta things were gonna play out in a certain fashion even if I didn't know the details of how they would happen.

Even so, I found the show to be super satisfying

 

[real_slime]

He liked the ep tho?
Don't understand your reaction to it.

yeah i know, i'm not trying to start a war about whether it was good - i think most of us loved it? right? the final scenes were a little weak
- but that review is pure tabloid trash for reasons i already quoted,
and you won't find an interesting throught in the whole thing unlike this topic

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Final track: "The Angry River" - The Hat, Father John Misty, & S. I. Istwa

They just put it up on the iTunes store.

yayyyyyyyy, on HBO's official youtube as well. Oh that was already said.

 

[potam]

I'm seeing a lot of atheists pissed off

fixed

Spoiler

don't kill me atheistGAF

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

I really dislike GAF meta-commentary.

"Everyone on GAF loves X, but I don't. Read this article that agrees with me. Clearly X is overrated and GAF is a hivemind. I'm the one shining beacon of critical thinking that broke free and saw the truth!".

Blah blah blah. I've only seen the first 3rd of the episode, I might just give up and try again tomorrow morning.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I'm seeing a lot of atheists pissed off by the final monologue (elsewhere, not here). I thought it was nice. I had some tears in my eyes.

Anybody pissed off about it didn't really seem to catch on that Rust was a man trying to convince himself of a belief that clashed with who he naturally was.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

There's something profoundly sad about going to a forum to throw out "I told you sos."

profoundly sad?

 

[potam]

I really dislike GAF meta-commentary.

"Everyone on GAF loves X, but I don't. Read this article that agrees with me. Clearly X is overrated and GAF is a hivemind. I'm the one shining beacon of critical thinking that broke free and saw the truth!".

Blah blah blah. I've only seen the first 3rd of the episode, I might just give up and try again tomorrow morning.

wtf are you doing in this thread then? You play a dangerous game.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I'm seeing a lot of atheists pissed off by the final monologue (elsewhere, not here). I thought it was nice. I had some tears in my eyes.

Pissed off in what regard? That Rust found some sort of peace or faith by the end?

 

[JasonUresti]

Did anyone really suspect that the ending would be Marty or Rust scribbling an italicized line in a journal about how they could hear the unnameable horror approaching?

Or that the Yellow King would come out and reveal himself to Rust and Marty as the Black Pharaoh Nyarlathotep before spiriting them away into the Abyss?

 

[real_slime]

I really dislike GAF meta-commentary.

"Everyone on GAF loves X, but I don't. Read this article that agrees with me. Clearly X is overrated and GAF is a hivemind. I'm the one shining beacon of critical thinking that broke free and saw the truth!".

Blah blah blah. I've only seen the first 3rd of the episode, I might just give up and try again tomorrow morning.

sorry, i'm being positive about the ep. it ruled. the reviews which are coming in - which are also postive - are idiotic though. that's what i'm saying. i know that looks bad on a skim.

 

[KHarvey16]

I'm seeing a lot of atheists pissed off by the final monologue (elsewhere, not here). I thought it was nice. I had some tears in my eyes.

The only way for an atheist to be angry at that final monologue is if they're stupid and didn't understand it or the character.

 

[Buckethead]

I liked the direction, it felt confident in simplicity and didn't hide shocking endings at every turn.

Great performances, Season 2 needs to do something completely different, but keep the smart writing.

 

[Cornballer]

HBO posted a music video on YouTube of the closing song.
http://youtu.be/08CddEWzYnQ

Thanks, good find. I added it above.

 

[Snapshot King]

Maybe I missed something, but I remember the writer mentioning that they straight up showed the face of the Yellow King in Episode 1. That everything is there in episode 1 to work forward from. But I can't for the life of me put a face to him.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

wtf are you doing in this thread then? You play a dangerous game.

force of habit, I feel like I have to post. I havent been spoiled yet, but you're right. I'm going to bed.

You let me down HBO

 

[amnesiac]

force of habit, I feel like I have to post. I have been spoiled yet, but you're right. I'm going to bed.

You let me down HBO

Do you have Comcast? If so, go through Xfinity's website.

 

[potam]

Someone mentioned a few pages back that season 2 is going to have multiple directors, like a standard show. Anyone know if this is true? Is Nic P. still writing it all solo? Will they still shoot on film? IS OUR BABY BEING DESTROYED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES?

 

[ivysaur12]

A fantastic ending to a really fantastic series. I can't wait to see the next cycle. I hope it's something completely different.

 

[brianjones]

green eared spaghetti monster = guy painting a house green?

come on

 

[Dresden]

Someone mentioned a few pages back that season 2 is going to have multiple directors, like a standard show. Anyone know if this is true? Is Nic P. still writing it all solo? Will they still shoot on film? IS OUR BABY BEING DESTROYED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES?

In a recent interview Nic mentioned that there was no intention of going with a single director again. As long as they get the right people, I don't think it'll suffer much. Trying to replicate the same process Fukunaga used would just hobble future efforts, anyways.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Lucia Micarelli for Season 2

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Someone mentioned a few pages back that season 2 is going to have multiple directors, like a standard show. Anyone know if this is true? Is Nic P. still writing it all solo? Will they still shoot on film? IS OUR BABY BEING DESTROYED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES?

Yea, he said this in a recent interview. Can't remember which one.

 

[Cornballer]

Someone mentioned a few pages back that season 2 is going to have multiple directors, like a standard show. Anyone know if this is true? Is Nic P. still writing it all solo? Will they still shoot on film? IS OUR BABY BEING DESTROYED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES?

Yes, they're going to use multiple directors. Pizzolatto still intends to write the whole thing. I have no idea if they're going to shoot on film or digital.

 

[xbhaskarx]

I think saying it was overrated is ridiculous, it was one season, eight episodes. You can't exactly compare it to shows like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad.

I hope in future seasons they have a few more episodes to work with, it felt like it should have been hitting the halfway point at episode six and they only had two left to wrap everything up...

 

[Helmholtz]

green eared spaghetti monster = guy painting a house green?

come on

In retrospect this is really dumb. I remember being confused at the time I heard it too. I was like...what? How did you make that connection?

I hope in future seasons they have a few more episodes to work with, it felt like it should have been hitting the halfway point at episode six and they only had two left to wrap everything up...

Agreed... the first several episodes were so deliberately paced, with slow progress being shown for the actual case. Then by the last two they're basically on full throttle and solely focused on the case.

 

[demolitio]

What was Rust seeing at the end of his final encounter in his hallucination? Was that the universe or something?

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Great episode, great show

Man I could watch a whole show that's nothing but Marty and rust driving in a car talking.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

I'M CALLING IT NOW

WE ARE IN CARCOSA

This artist rendition is still phenomenal. We got so close to it, but what they did in the final fit everything that we've seen in the prior 8 episode. No hyperbole, but I haven't felt tingly and still for an extended period of time like that. Simply incredible. All the superlatives possible to describe how well executed that was.

People doubted Nick because of whatever role he played in The Killing. I didn't watch that show, and never had any fears. I held complete trust in this show and how HBO was handling it. They COMPLETELY AND ABSOLUTELY delivered.

Now to read through the reactions as it happened lived for others in this thread.

 

[Air]

Excellent show.

 

[Mononoke]

The green house stuff is strengthened by everything they've learned about Childress up until then. Without the rest of it you have a guy who might have been there to paint a house green.

What about Childress and the missing child had them look at Lange's house? OR did I get that part wrong. Was it not Lange's house? The house that was green belonged to the missing girl?

I think I mixed stuff up. My apologies. Can you connect how talking to the Sheriff about Childress connects to the Green House?