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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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I didn't think that the family did any killing, but rather the other depraved things. Was there evidence that anyone other than Errol (and his "acolytes") killed as well?
 
None of that fell by the wayside. Eg corruption....the news said FBI discredited rumors about the Tuttles involvement. Tuttle is a senator the sprawl.
I don't mean to say it was completely ignored, but it comes as an aside rather than being anything remotely personal or interesting.
 
Great finale. Most consistently excellent show I've seen in a while. I'll be really sad if/when season 2 doesn't happen in Louisiana.
 
So the ritual Mardi Gras sacrifices are separate from Errol right?

He seems like he's been on his own a bit and it didnt seem like he would have a group of people and a camera to record his murders.
 
Just finished. Good ending, but after all the speculation, it left me wanting more closure as far as Audrey and the Tuttles are concerned. I guess nothing is ever really solved after all.

Come on season 2!
 
Well they had the tape in one of their houses.

Did that show a murder? I thought it was sex abuse but stopped short of murder, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

Edit: Hmmm, I guess it must've been murder, since they never found her (Fontaneau) -- I'm dense. I liked the idea that the family was not murdering but then Errol went a step further better, I guess, but I guess the family just kept it lower key for generations? Kinda odd.
 
Just finished. Good ending, but after all the speculation, it left me wanting more closure as far as Audrey and the Tuttles are concerned. I guess nothing is ever really solved after all.

Come on season 2!
Audrey was just Nick P. fucking with the viewer the entire time. She was just a typical angsty teenager who could not have looked like a more normal adult.
 
All these interesting elements about Marty's family, corruption from higher up, and the up and coming cops kind of just fell by the wayside as the show poorly wrapped up its ill defined criminal case.

Agreed. I think it boils down to the fact that 8 eps was not enough.
 
So the ritual Mardi Gras sacrifices are separate from Errol right?

He seems like he's been on his own a bit and it didnt seem like he would have a group of people and a camera to record his murders.

I think you have two circles: one with Errol, one with the Tuttles. There's some overlap, but they're mostly distinct.
 
No... no... I want someone to explain how a person paints both their ears green while painting a house.

He didn't. The paint got on him while he was painting the house. It was a messy job, and he's clearly very sloppy. In his first scene, you can see his jumpsuit had green paint on it because it was never washed.
 
dude do i need to shout or what

childress was the absolute devil, and rust and marty shot him down, but they didn't get all the roots cos we're evil, and he'll be back (NOT THE ACTOR, CHRIST) next season

the crown is nothing, the root abides. his family has been here for a long long time! i mean come on
 
That was Marie Fontenot who was never seen again, so I'm assuming they killed her.

From my understanding it was a ritualistic murder

Yeah, I was editing my post as you all answered -- I guess it was, just seems odd. I figured it was a deranged family member (Errol) taking their depravity a step further but I guess it was a deranged family member spinning it off into his own thing (and being careless about it in the process).
 
I think you have two circles: one with Errol, one with the Tuttles. There's some overlap, but they're mostly distinct.

Thats what I figured, overlap but distinct.

The darkest part of this is knowing that there are a bunch of tuttle and bastard rapist/murderers still running around.
 
But one thing that bothers me is how a guy with a face like that could be so hard to find. Did I miss something?

He had a beard in ep3, which shouldn't have been able to grow because of the scars, so I don't know. He doesn't have beard in ep7 though, so he seems to be out in the open without a care :/

Someone need to explain to me how is it the green house is green ears...
 
no it was him.

he's literally evil incarnate. am i the only one who saw it this way?

I saw it separate. Errol liked to display his victims. The rest of the group were quick to cover it up. They had been doing it for a long time, without getting caught. I dunno. I got the sense that Errol became obsessed with killing.
 
He had a beard in ep3, which shouldn't have been able to grow because of the scars, so I don't know. He doesn't have beard in ep7 though, so he seems to be out in the open without a care :/

Someone need to explain to me how is it the green house is green ears...

He got paint on himself, there's your answer.

Why would he be hiding?

It's not like there was a search party looking for him. The case was closed.
 
Man, love this series. Not a fan of this episode AT ALL.

It felt like this episode was scored by someone scoring a Disney movie. I swear, NONE of the music in this episode lined up with any of the other eps. Felt goofy/cartoony at times and took me out way to fast.

I dunno, the last scene seemed really tacky.

I mean the action was good, even if drawn out for him going deeper into Carcosa, just wish they played with him losing it more and more as he went deeper, similar to Jack in the Maze in The Shining. Just seemed like a missed opportunity.

Still love this series and I need to watch this episode again, but overall, kinda a letdown.
 
No... no... I want someone to explain how a person paints both their ears green while painting a house.
I just knew when Marty pointed out, "why the green ears?" That it would've been revealed as green earmuffs -- lawnmower man... Would've been a lot easier to make sense of than a painted green house.
 
I saw it separate. Errol liked to display his victims. The rest of the group were quick to cover it up. They had been doing it for a long time, without getting caught. I dunno. I got the sense that Errol became obsessed with killing.

one murder junkie wouldn't hold rust's attention, this was a sprawl, like he was saying. it goes much deeper than errol. it goes back centuries and will keep going forward. we'll never meet the yellow king, the next cast will pick up the torch and it'll be rough on us all but we'll chug along.

that's what i take from this sorry tale of two drunks.
 
I just knew when Marty pointed out, "why the green ears?" That it would've been revealed as green earmuffs -- lawnmower man... Would've been a lot easier to make sense of than a painted green house.

Yeah, that felt forced for sure. Really, a lot of the missing parts in this case felt kind of contrived in the end. I love how everyone they talk to can't remember much, but they remember that scarred face. Granted, people don't forget details like that about a person. But after hearing so much about it, started to roll my eyes.
 
no it was him.

he's literally evil incarnate. am i the only one who saw it this way?

dude do i need to shout or what

childress was the absolute devil, and rust and marty shot him down, but they didn't get all the roots cos we're evil, and he'll be back (NOT THE ACTOR, CHRIST) next season

the crown is nothing, the root abides. his family has been here for a long long time! i mean come on
Errol wasn't in the tape.

Da he'll you talking about in these posts?
 
He got paint on himself, there's your answer.

Why would he be hiding?

It's not like there was a search party looking for him. The case was closed.

The paint thing was years ago, why the sudden far-fetched jump now. And what about the green spaghetti? He got paint all over his hairs, face, and everything but not his scars?
 
one murder junkie wouldn't hold rust's attention, this was a sprawl, like he was saying. it goes much deeper than errol. it goes back centuries and will keep going forward. we'll never meet the yellow king, the next cast will pick up the torch and it'll be rough on us all but we'll chug along.

that's what i take from this sorry tale of two drunks.

Not arguing that it doesn't go back. But I'm saying this specific case with Dora Lange and her body being put out on display. IMO this was separate from the sacrifices being done by the secret society of families living that region. That is what made the ending so disturbing, because in the end they CAUGHT their man that killed Lange. But those that killed the little girl, and who have been doing these things for decades were not brought to justice.

IMO Errol was apart of this society, but took it in his own direction. I personally don't see this MO of displaying the body, as really jiving with the other sacrifices in the past.
 
Green ears was kind of forced; they could have gone through the tax records of the Childress family way sooner. That, or getting something from interrogating the Sheriff, that was a huge risk with no payoff for the pair.
 
He had a beard in ep3, which shouldn't have been able to grow because of the scars, so I don't know. He doesn't have beard in ep7 though, so he seems to be out in the open without a care :/

Someone need to explain to me how is it the green house is green ears...
I mean, so many people know of "the man with the scars." He even works out in public. How he could be so elusive with no one remembering his name is beyond me.
 
I mean, so many people know of "the man with the scars." He even works out in public. How he could be so elusive with no one remembering his name is beyond me.

It was 17 years ago, Rust and Cohle weren't even looking for "the man with the scars" in 1995.

The paint thing was years ago, why the sudden far-fetched jump now. And what about the green spaghetti? He got paint all over his hairs, face, and everything but not his scars?

Marty was looking at pictures of that house and made the connection. I'm not sure what your second point is, the kids refered to him as the "green eared[/] spaghetti monster", so presumably his face wasn't covered in paint.
 
Green ears was kind of forced; they could have gone through the tax records of the Childress family way sooner. That, or getting something from interrogating the Sheriff, that was a huge risk with no payoff for the pair.

They didn't go through the tax records for the Childress family, and I don't know how that would have given them anything if they had since they wouldn't know what to look for. Interrogating the sheriff gave them another piece pointing to Childress.
 
It was 17 years ago, Rust and Cohle weren't even looking for "the man with the scars" in 1995.



Marty was looking at pictures of that house and made the connection. I'm not sure what your second point is, the kids refered to him as the "green eared[/] spaghetti monster", so presumably his face wasn't covered in paint.


Rust was racing towards a red light, when he bought into the narrative that Ledoux was the one responsible.

They didn't go through the tax records for the Childress family, and I don't know how that would have given them anything if they had since they wouldn't know what to look for. Interrogating the sheriff gave them another piece pointing to Childress.

All the Sheriff confirmed was that Childress is the one that changed the report, and told him to keep quiet. The green house stuff, was from Lange, and was completely unrelated. It was the ultimate break in their case.
 
I'll just reiterate the Naomi Watts pick cos we all know Dave is busy making a movie with Laura.

Who is he co-star is my question?

i been saying naomi watts and viggo for so long now. it must happen. throw in cate blanchett too.
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good season. i think the hospital scenes got a bit sappy but still it was nice to see a real life friendship sort of replicated in this episode with the two characters. mcconaughey's crying scene was great, but an obvious clip for the awards season.

the music certainly seemed corny as hell. i'm glad i wasn't the only one who noticed.
 
Not arguing that it doesn't go back. But I'm saying this specific case with Dora Lange and her body being put out on display. IMO this was separate from the sacrifices being done by the secret society of families living that region. That is what made the ending so disturbing, because in the end they CAUGHT their man that killed Lange. But those that killed the little girl, and who have been doing these things for decades were not brought to justice.

IMO Errol was apart of this society, but took it in his own direction. I personally don't see this MO of displaying the body, as really jiving with the other sacrifices in the past.

sounds like a decent perspective on things, but i think errol was using the tuttles and rust for his own long term amusement. carcosa seemed supernaturaly scary and enwildening because it was.

whoever we meet in S2, whatever the case, we might chop his legs off but hell is gonna continue to reign right here day to day. that's what i took from this series.
 
dude do i need to shout or what

childress was the absolute devil, and rust and marty shot him down, but they didn't get all the roots cos we're evil, and he'll be back (NOT THE ACTOR, CHRIST) next season

the crown is nothing, the root abides. his family has been here for a long long time! i mean come on

Dude I'm sorry to be blunt but are you fucking retarded? The shows second season has nothing to do with this one.
 
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