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Alright, so I feel like an idiot, but I didn't realize that lawnmower man was revealed as the spaghetti monster at the end of the last episode.

When I said this to my friend he said "didn't you see the scars?!", but I honestly didn't. I figured the whole point of that scene was to indicate that he was a part of this larger group involved with the killings.

Is there a picture of him anywhere at the end of the episode that show those scars?
 
Zozobra said:
Alright, so I feel like an idiot, but I didn't realize that lawnmower man was revealed as the spaghetti monster at the end of the last episode.

When I said this to my friend he said "didn't you see the scars?!", but I honestly didn't. I figured the whole point of that scene was to indicate that he was a part of this larger group involved with the killings.

Is there a picture of him anywhere at the end of the episode that show those scars?
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First time we saw him:

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Second time we see him:

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I waiting for the inevitable backlash when all these theories don't pan out.

My guess is still that 'The Yellow King' is just one of the men in the cult (on the tape) that has a yellow animal mask (maybe a lion or giraffe or something).

"Man is the cruelest animal"
 
D4Danger said:
I waiting for the inevitable backlash when all these theories don't pan out.

My guess is still that 'The Yellow King' is just one of the men in the cult (on the tape) that has a yellow animal mask (maybe a lion or giraffe or something).

"Man is the cruelest animal"
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I'd say symbolism wise, it's more apt to pick on the Catholic Church - the children being molested and the consequent cover ups.
If this holds true, Tuttle wouldn't necessarily be the yellow king, just somebody trying to keep up the reputation of the church.
 
Man. I found the first 4 eps to be pitch perfect. The past three I've been torn on. Finale basically will color my whole view on this show.
 
peterb0y said:
Man. I found the first 4 eps to be pitch perfect. The past three I've been torn on. Finale basically will color my whole view on this show.
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I agree that the way it comes together will allow us to see the big picture and finally make some conclusions about all the disparate threads and messages.

Either way there are too many people with too many demands for how its going to go down that I feel it might be divisive. Either too clean for some people or not clean enough.

Talon said:
The Banh Mi lady.
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Marty's imaginary Filipino Match.com girlfriend. She's been pulling the strings all along.
 
-Pyromaniac- said:
Have we met any asian characters on the show? If so I have a new theory...


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Old.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-killer-marty-the-five-horsemen-and-more.html

It’s All About ‘Nam

The most insane theory has been saved for last. A Reddit user who goes by the handle “simplyravishing” posted that “The Yellow King,” who’s presumably at the heart of the ritualistic killings in True Detective, is none other than “the owner of the Vietnamese restaurant from Episode 3.” His/her evidence for this theory is that Rust and Marty “somehow not only found, but ate at a Vietnamese restaurant in the backwoods of Louisiana,” and that most of the people linked to the cult have been “white guys with white power ideals” like LeDoux and Lange, who would probably refer to a Vietnamese person as “yellow.” Furthermore, there’s the scene where Rust describes LeDoux’s “little shop of horrors as being reminiscent of the way his father described Vietnam,” so we can assume that some nasty stuff went down there. I’ll let simply ravishing take it from here:

The King in Yellow is a Vietnamese refugee who made his way to the United States after the war in an effort to track down Mr. Cohle and any of his living family members to repay him for the atrocities he committed against the King's family in Vietnam. Rust didn't choose to leave Alaska, his father sent him to the relative safety of Texas after training him how to survive the relentless onslaught of the King in Yellow's vengeance. Then, as the investigators stated, Mr. Cohle vanished from the map (the first step in the King's ultimate plan).

After the ‘accident’ involving Rust's daughter (orchestrated by the King in Yellow), Rust knew he had to disappear or face certain death so he chose to go deep cover, finding that to be a safer way to live than be out in the open without a badge where he would be easy for the King in Yellow to pick off. Once, Rust was allowed to resume normal life and take a job as a detective in the Louisiana State Police, the King in Yellow relocated to Louisiana, opened a Vietnamese restaurant as a front to avoid suspicion, and began gaining the loyalty of local criminals by offering them a direct line to his narcotic connections in Southeast Asia. The Lange murder and the cult sculptures are simply breadcrumbs the King in Yellow is using to lure Rust into a trap and finally finish his ultimate quest for revenge.​

Wow.
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Dude...
 
Zozobra said:
Awesome, thank you. I guess I was envisioning these crazy-ass, Heath Ledger Joker-type scars.
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Yeah, I didn't see the episode on HD, and I was pretty iffy if what they were showing was supposed to be scars or not, especially as he was growing a beard (which I don't think can even grow out of a burned skin?)
 
Lord Error said:
Yeah, I didn't see the episode on HD, and I was pretty iffy if what they were showing was supposed to be scars or not, especially as he was growing a beard (which I don't think can even grow out of a burned skin?)
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There are too many things that don't add up for me to just accept that he is the one we've been looking for.

-His scars are supposed to be so notable that almost everyone he encounters has a memory of them, yet we've been unable to really notice them each time we've seen them
-One witness said it looked like he had been burned. As you noted, you can't really grow hair through burn scars
-Dude's face looks nothing like spaghetti. Unless the real dude actually has significant facial scarring OR this dude was wearing a spaghetti mask, it doesn't really add up
 
Too bad that there's actually a pretty big Vietnamese population around New Orleans.

Also, too bad that's batshit hilariously crazy.
 
BobTheFork said:
Oh, that's why the girl called him green-eared.... the lawns. It took me way to long to put that together.
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That picture always looked to me like he could be wearing a set of green, industrial ear protection, but he hasn't had them on whenever he's been mowing. Might have been too obvious of a tip-off.
 
Possible spoilers from IMDB on the finale:

Madison Wolfe the child actress for Audrey is listed under the credits for the final episode... take that for what you will
 
Marty eating his TV dinner alone was exceptionally upsetting to me. I feel like going out tonight just to affirm that was imaginary.
 
Cornballer said:
That picture always looked to me like he could be wearing a set of green, industrial ear protection, but he hasn't had them on whenever he's been mowing. Might have been too obvious of a tip-off.
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In the final scene of the episode I kept waiting for him to put on the ear protectors. As the camera is pulling out he actually does put something on his ears but it is very subtle.

I think it's less than that they don't want to "tip-off" the audience than it is that they don't want to be too on-the-nose. They already showed the scars. We can use our imagination regarding the ear protection at this point (though there still might be a reveal to this effect in the final episode.)
 
I really appreciate that the bit about that crazy girl in 2002 being the catalyst for the state of the 2012 universe. The show is actually really fucked up about sex. Its depiction of sex and the function of sex in the story is as this really awful and heinous thing. Marty and Rust are fighting against people high up using their position for sexual deviancy with children. And at the same time Marty has girl half his age (whom he rescued as a child?) begging him to fuck her in the ass as he's sulking with self-pity from his uncontrollable urges. Oh man. I see a real parallel there. Gross.

If Marty hadn't given in, then his wife wouldn't have cheated and him and Rust wouldn't have gotten in a fight, etc, etc, etc..
 
This show has great acting, cinematography, atmosphere, characters... the list goes on.

But the main murder/conspiracy story is boring and feels generic. A real shame it has such a big flaw.

A great show regardless but it could be God tier if the main mystery was better.
 
sammyCYBORG said:
But the main murder/conspiracy story is boring and feels generic. A real shame it has such a big flaw.
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I'm genuinely curious on what is available where a murder story does not feel boring or generic. I'm personally not sure if this is boring/generic or not. Or is there not a lot of room to work topics of people killing people? I'm antsy for more content to grab.
 
True Detective - SEASON TWO | OT |

Starring
Demi Moore as Detective Cloudy Fridd
Rupert Grint as Detective Leo Trapeze

Plot
Set in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2024 Duluth, Minnesota, the new cop pairing of Cloudy Fridd - famous for killing two drug dealers with a crossbow in a bathroom - and Leo Trapeze - a ball of ginger rage and fury, isolated from his wife due to his sexual preferences - must solve a murder that involves the entirety of the local news team and their mothers

just spoke to nic on msn and he assures me this is pretty much it
 
I think the issue is everything has been done to be honest. Nothing shocks or intrigues me in the show because it's all been done to death.

I think the show would be better if it was even more character focused and the case(s) took a back seat.
 
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