Mr. Saturn
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I thought the person on the boat was named Geraci(?) I don't think he was a Childress?
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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st
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Cornballer
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Content Round Up - Episode 7 - After You’ve Gone
Reviews:
Videos:
Other:
- NY Mag: Let’s Talk About Those Creepy Rural Mardi Gras Pictures on True Detective
- Rolling Stone: Matthew McConaughey on 'True Detective,' His Pal Woody, McConaissance
Reviews:
- Sepinwall's review
- Onion A|V Club review
- Wall Street Journal
- Slate.com
- Poniewozik's review
- IGN
- MTV
- IndieWire
- The Atlantic
- The Daily Beast review
- EW
- NY Mag review
- The Atlantic roundtable review
- Warming Glow on last night's episode
- Nola.com
- Paste Magazine on last night's episode
- Onion A|V Club review
- Wall Street Journal
- Slate.com
- Poniewozik's review
- IGN
- MTV
- IndieWire
- The Atlantic
- The Daily Beast review
- EW
- NY Mag review
- The Atlantic roundtable review
- Warming Glow on last night's episode
- Nola.com
- Paste Magazine on last night's episode
Videos:
- Promo for next week's finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Inside the Episode #7
- Clip from Episode #7 "No Way Around It"
- Clip from Episode #7 "It Had to Be a Dream"
- Inside the Episode #7
- Clip from Episode #7 "No Way Around It"
- Clip from Episode #7 "It Had to Be a Dream"
Other:
- Variety: Matthew McConaughey Won’t do a ‘True Detective’ Season 2 (old news, but for the sake of completeness)
- NY Mag: Let’s Talk About Those Creepy Rural Mardi Gras Pictures on True Detective
- Rolling Stone: Matthew McConaughey on 'True Detective,' His Pal Woody, McConaissance
I can't wait for someone to tell me 'it's nice to see you' again.
Strange episode considering it's the penultimate, honestly if you told me this was half way through the season I'd have believed you, all the history stuff is behind us, here is the set up for the second part of the story, I guess having the villain reveal himself is part of that. I'm torn between wanting the show to ramp up but knowing that escalation isn't the point, it's trying to remain as grounded as possible, which at times can be very anticlimactic, perhaps TV has spoiled me over the last decade with each show trying to raise the stakes.
Looking forward to the finale.
Looking forward to the finale.
Miss.Selfdestruct
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I'm putting my eggs on the Daily Beast's prediction basket. It just makes sense. Looking back, we don't know how attentive Marty and Maggie had been of their kids to explain why only one of them seemed messed up.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Chilrdess was the old sheriff during the missing little girl times, who's son was the prison guard.
HalfBakedProphet
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When can we expect the blu ray release? Towards the end of the summer maybe?
Well, he was obviously lying from the get go since he didn't mention it when it was part of the 95 investigation. Beyond that, he basically said he never looked into it himself (even though it was his beat) and to talk to the Sheriff, who happens to be a Tuttle bastard. Then made a point of repeatedly asking to meet whoever was looking into it
Yeah it's pretty much the precise prediction I made earlier in this thread in the immediate aftermath of episode 7. It seems to me Marty is the one who is going to lose his mind when he finds Carcosa - because of what it will reveal about what happened to Audrey. Remember how he shot Ledoux when he saw too kids unrelated to him in that situation? How he reacted when he saw the baby killed in the microwave (he ended his career)? How he reacted when he watched the video in the storage locker? All very emotional, spontaneous reactions that suggest a mind fragile to such incidents.
How will he react when he finds or hears about the evidence that his own daughter was submitted to this horror? He will go insane
tycoonheart
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The guy Rust slapped.
Oh yeah that guy. I'm going to watch the whole series straight when it finishes so I can piece it all together, Cheers
For me it was that he remembered parts of the case very specifically and other parts very vague. And then the look Marty gave him we knew at least that Marty caught a lie.
Mowing is a flat circle.
I just read that one and it seems to line up pretty well. Seems especially obvious that Audrey is involved, and I can't wait to watch Marty lose it. I think Woody will steal the show in the finale.
The Daily Beast theory has the advantage that three of the five riders are dead, Sam and billy Tuttle, and assuming that the not seen in the present Ted Childress is dead (why go to the Sheriff who replaced Childress if Childress is available).
So that only leaves Governor Tuttle and Errol Childress to be confronted, which may be quicker, considering that they only have one hour left for torturing the Sheriff, learning of Errol, going to meet him, epic facepalming when Rust recognizes him -assuming that this will be where there will be a flashback explaining a bunch of stuff-, and a final confrontation. Add the possible inclusion of Marty's daughter/wife in the mix and the last episode will be rushed. Also, the other couple of detectives have to be dealt with. Maybe they just arrive to the shooting place late to pick up the pieces.
So that only leaves Governor Tuttle and Errol Childress to be confronted, which may be quicker, considering that they only have one hour left for torturing the Sheriff, learning of Errol, going to meet him, epic facepalming when Rust recognizes him -assuming that this will be where there will be a flashback explaining a bunch of stuff-, and a final confrontation. Add the possible inclusion of Marty's daughter/wife in the mix and the last episode will be rushed. Also, the other couple of detectives have to be dealt with. Maybe they just arrive to the shooting place late to pick up the pieces.
talisayNon
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Closure for what? Has the show given us any indication that she's involved outside of internet sleuthing?
Yes, a LOT of indication. This connection with Audrey is not people going into Carcossa and digging into stuff that isn't there. The behavior of Audrey is clear and intentionally highlighted, and the showrunner has said time and time again he is not here to trick people. What is there before us indicates some really sinister happened in Audrey's past.
... damn.
The possibility of the Tuttle bastards leaves me thinking that the show will end with the pair winning a pyrrhic victory, beheading the cult, but unable to deal with all the Tuttle family members they are not aware of and that will continue the killings.
It'd be a very lovecraftian ending.
I wouldn't say there's a lot of indication. She had a troubled youth but Maggie and Marty's scene seemed like more a discussion that would lead to closure on the kids than a scene that's setting us up for a big "your daughter has been involved" reveal. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong but I wouldn't expect to see Maggie or the kids outside of a funeral service or something like that, if at all.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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One thing I should have mentioned, I really liked how Rust is relatively back to normal when he's got his Tax Man look going on. The interview mannerisms are there and so is the detective work he became known for. The smart facade of being drunken, beer can puppeteer during the inadmissible interview segments was mostly an act. He's been through from shit, that's clear. His return to Louisiana was purposeful for him to tie things off.
You don't remember her getting in trouble for drawing pictures of sex at school, or making gang rape scenes with her dolls? Not even getting into her teen years. I feel the show has been making a strong effort to get us to pay attention to what is happening with her, so I don't think it would make sense to just drop it with, "oh well she has an okay art career now"
Marty has even repeatedly pointed out his inattentiveness to c;ues under his nose
Doubt there's any hope of them rooting out the entire conspiracy in one go. They'll find their man and Marty will get his redemption and Rust his validation, but I doubt it'll be anything more than that. The environment which has permitted these people to exist will always remain in place.
Hope they leave it unsaid. Hope they avoid some big, dramatic reveal.
Hope they leave it unsaid. Hope they avoid some big, dramatic reveal.
Dreamseller
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Wait. I don't get it. The lawnmower guy is supposed to be the man with the scars? We saw this guy before and he hadn't any scars. Russ looked this dude straight in the face and didn't see any scars. The way the victim and other people described him, it sounded like his face was pretty messed up.
ProudCanuck
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can anyone link me to Dailybeast's prediction?
I think a lot of that stuff could just be the allusion of bad parents creating bad children and how both Marty and Rust ended up doing the same thing. The spectre of evil being handed down permeates every corner of this universe. I don't think we're owed anything there the same way we weren't owed a Billy Tuttle death scene.
He had a beard before? And Marty interrupted him? I'm also not sure if he knew to look for scars or not beforehand, but he will certainly be kicking himself once he realizes.
Cornballer
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First time we saw him:
It's one side of his face, Rust was called away quickly by Marty, and he has some facial hair.
Second time we see him:
Cornballer
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The Daily Beast review/speculation. It's also linked at the top of the page.
HalfBakedProphet
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If not for the barbie doll scene which was extremely reminiscent of the video Rust found, I might be able to toss aside the Audrey connection. But that combined with everything else...plus they seemed to pay special attention to her during the Maggie/Marty scene this past episode. They made a point to mention some very specific details of her life.
I'd be surprised if she wasnt involved in some way in the finale
I'd be surprised if she wasnt involved in some way in the finale
TrAcEr_x90
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I'm still a little confused on what is being implied? That these five men (brothers or cousins?) raised in this area all became officials of the state? And all five men are peder-asses?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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First time we saw him:
It's one side of his face, Rust was called away quickly by Marty, and he has some facial hair.
Second time we see him:
That's... a shitty beard.
There's no way he wouldn't have seen all that scarring.
I'll chalk it up to suspension of disbelief since it might be a prop problem.
HalfBakedProphet
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even on my first viewing of ep. 7, I thought it was hard to make out the scars. Place some scraggly blond/brown hair over the top, I think I'd be easy to miss.
I think this episode showed how deep and vast this whole thing is. Nailing just Errol in 1995 wouldn't have been much better that getting Ledoux, really. They are both just a piece of the puzzle. You could argue Errol is a bigger piece (especially if he is the one displaying the bodies) but this is much darker than just murder.
Dreamseller
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I don't know man. A guy like Russ who is extremly detail oriented in everything he does just forgets he saw a guy with scars when all he did for 10 years is looking for a man with scars? Even the guy they interviewed remembered the man with the scars, from when he was 11 years old. The show is awesome, but that part of the story doesn't feel right to me.
The witnesses stress the scars a lot, but when seen directly they are barely noticeable.
Maybe there's something else to it.
Then again, maybe the scars have recovered. Remember that the Ledoux guy in the garage that went to fish with Errol, did it so when he was a kid, at least 15 years ago, maybe 20 or 30.
I don't remember clearly, but it is possible that Rust learned of the Scar Man after his encounter with the Lawnmover Man.
Someone else would have to clear up this.
Maybe there's something else to it.
Then again, maybe the scars have recovered. Remember that the Ledoux guy in the garage that went to fish with Errol, did it so when he was a kid, at least 15 years ago, maybe 20 or 30.
I don't remember clearly, but it is possible that Rust learned of the Scar Man after his encounter with the Lawnmover Man.
Someone else would have to clear up this.
Wasn't it months or years later that he learned of the scars as a defining feature? Seems unlikely that he'd remember that some otherwise innocuous lawnmower man had some barely discernible scars under his beard.
The suspension of disbelief works fine for me here, though maybe someone could persuade me otherwise.
The suspension of disbelief works fine for me here, though maybe someone could persuade me otherwise.
The One Who Knocks
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Cohle approached him from the side without scarring. When he turns around to look at Marty, as does Cohle, that's when we notice the scarring here:
It's only a very brief glimpse we get. We have the benefit of knowing it's a television show, and every scene, and character, is important. Considering the visit to the school was just to view around, they had a primary suspect in mind anyway, Cohle was extremely uninterested in him (Cohle rarely looked at him, he was looking at the premises), and Cohle never saw him from the angle which revealed his scarring (looking away as he turns around), all in addition to the terrible beard, I think it is very plausible that he'd miss it and not remember him, despite many of us having suspected him since his appearance and noted the parallels.
They learnt early on that scarring was a feature from I believe two sources, Theriot's camp noted that Dora was with a tall man with scars and I recall there was another source which also stated this (perhaps the spaghetti monster drawing, but I think there was something more definitive) making reference to scarring. This was further emphasized later on but scarring was a feature to note before they arrived at the school.
TrAcEr_x90
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How are they going to fit this all in, in one last episode?
Miss.Selfdestruct
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I feel like this was the biggest bone they throw the audience. I remember they specifically focused on Marty, that line he said, and his kids, the tiara... At the time, I figured the crown and the young innocent girls were a figurative parallel to the twisted shit in the cases. But, given how the show makes a point to not go any farfetched path, just pure simple basics. The scene seems very clear now.
Now I'm thinking there might be a scene with Marty visiting Audrey, seeing her art, noticing familiar symbolism, then losing his shit somehow. Whatever happens, I don't think it'll close on a good note for Marty with what's been shown thus far.
Gotta admit, the creepiest thing about this show is knowing this shit, and worse, happens irl.
She has become an artist and she has a boyfriend which Maggie likes. Also she's on some sort of medication.
edit: meh, now i don't know if you edited your post or i'm just drunk but i thought you were asking something else
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Get info out of the Sheriff, dispose of him, next 55 minutes are devoted to killing/capturing the remaining members? 20 minutes exposition about Carcosa and the Yellow King, ten minutes
creeping about in Carcosa itself
I'm pretty sure that Cohle and Hart will have gone full on vigilante by the final twenty minutes of the episode. The law did nothing for the victims, so they'll go ahead without it.
HalfBakedProphet
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2 minutes of getting info out of the sheriff, 57 minutes of wandering the insanity of Carcosa, human sacrifice, demons feasting on human flesh and revealing Marty as the Yellow King.
AM I RITE
AM I RITE
I'm having trouble believing they can conclude the story in a satisfying way in such a short amount of time. I really liked the last ep but it didn't exactly answer too many questions. To me it feels like they'd need at least two more episodes at this point. Hope I'm wrong.
Well, they have to explain the My Little Pony blanket. So about three minutes for that.
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