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[The Artful Dodger]

I'm pretty sure the man with the scars isn't the yellow king, and the Tuttles don't really believe in him and the "Spaghetti man" brought the murders out to punish them for not believing.

That's my guess anyways

 

[AuthenticM]

This fucking show.

I want Kate Blanchett and Kate Winslet as the two detectives for next season.

 

[RustyNails]

That was rust and he unloaded his gun on the guy for it. That's why he was forces to do his stint as a deep undercover asset.

Oh yeah. You see Rust isnt particularly shaken by it, nor by the creepy ritual rape/mutilation video of the Fontenaut girl. Like I said, it takes a little crazy to survive it.

 

[Kadayi]

I wonder how they will get away with pointing the gun (and torturing) the sheriff.

Three men got on the boat, but only two are coming back at a guess. Fuck that guy. Let the gators have him.

Well Tuttle had the videotape in his safe, along with what I presume were pictures of naked kids, maybe dead, and there were like 5 guys in the video.

Lawnmower dude is certainly the killer of Dora Lange (as confirmed by NP in the inside the episode) but there is still clearly a family cult in play, and he's simply part of it. Rust & Cohle are gonna clean house. They're so far past the point of legality in terms of what they've done, that it's never going to be a case anyone slapping the cuffs on and hauling off the Tuttles to jail.

I have a feeling that both Rust and Marty are going to get killed off in the finale to close the story.

Case is going to get resolved. Whether both of them walk out alive is another matter.

I'm gonna watch the episode in a few, but AV Club gave it a C?

Dude is just Trolling with that score. It might not have the high pace of some of the episodes, but it was a solid B in my book and I enjoyed the way that the characters reconnected.

He still hasn't forgiven Maggie for what she made him do.

There's no looking past shit like that. The anger isn't there but, it's understandable that he's not really interested in engaging with her given how things played out and how his life went after that.

He didn't say it, but he implied something related to death (maybe suicide).

I think its more likely that Rust has found out that's he's dying or something and he figures he needs to clear his conscience by solving the case.

I just now watched the episode, I'm sorry.

You're in Carcosa now.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Welp, I think Reddit has convinced me on who the Yellow King is:



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It's a good theory, but it doesn't explain why

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everyone's insanely muttering about the Yellow King and Carcosa as a real person and thing respectively.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

How pissed will you guys be if we never get an explanation and connection to the killings with Audrey's behavior? I'm not so sure that's going to be specifically mapped out like some are thinking.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Interesting theory. I maintain that the yellow king isn't a person. Could be the straw man idol could be Santeria Jesus.

 

[RustyNails]

"You're in Carcosa now" is the new "You aren't in Kansas anymore"

 

[D4Danger]

oh look, more theories that have it all figured out... until next time when it all changes

I'm sure they put that together before the lingering shot of a boat in the last episode. yep.

 

[kirblar]

I've assumed Yellow King/Carcosa are just part of the religious/cult stuff, and nothing more. Never seemed like we were looking for them to represent something tangible.

 

[LordCanti]

I still want them to go supernatural. Just a single frame of a man in yellow watching them inserted where no one could see it if they weren't going frame by frame or something

How pissed will you guys be if we never get an explanation and connection to the killings with Audrey's behavior? I'm not so sure that's going to be specifically mapped out like some are thinking.

It's fine if they leave it as speculation. I think it's going to be the thing that finally drives Marty insane though.

 

[Dennis]

Welp, I think Reddit has convinced me on who the Yellow King is:

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lol I think your brain sprung a leak.

 

[Vespene]

I still want them to go supernatural. Just a single frame of a man in yellow watching them inserted where no one could see it if they weren't going frame by frame or something



It's fine if they leave it as speculation. I think it's going to be the thing that finally drives Marty insane though.

I'm now pretty sure Audrey is the girl in the 2012 murder. Shit's gonna hit the fan. The cult probably used her to lure Rust and Marty out... and in retaliation for reverend Tuttle.

 

[Enco]

Looks like the way Marty's kid arranged those dolls.

 

[Blackhead]

Random conspiracy angle that has to do with another conspiracy I read earlier.

If. Maggie were somehow involved, perhaps the Rust lust was intended to break them up and get them off the case by destroying whatever friendship they had.

I am not saying that Maggie is involved, just adding this for funsies.

I'd be quite shocked if Maggie is involved. That would completely destroy the character. I was surprised that old housekeeper was actually a believer. That's the first woman (and black person) that's been shown to be involved with the cult, right?

How pissed will you guys be if we never get an explanation and connection to the killings with Audrey's behavior? I'm not so sure that's going to be specifically mapped out like some are thinking.

A resolution to that storyline is needed even if it's not explicitly connected to the killings (despite the many clues that suggest so).

 

[LordCanti]

I'm now pretty sure Audrey is the girl in the 2012 murder. Shit's gonna hit the fan. The cult probably used her to lure Rust and Marty out... and in retaliation for reverend Tuttle.

Maggie seemed like she was in pretty constant contact with Audrey so I don't know if that makes a lot of sense. I think she'd tell Marty if Audrey was missing.

Unless she's in on it, obviously.

Edit: Aah, if they've said who the victim is, then I guess you've got your answer: No.

 

[Stark]

I've assumed Yellow King/Carcosa are just part of the religious/cult stuff, and nothing more. Never seemed like we were looking for them to represent something tangible.

In the preview:

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Rust comes across this room with a giant skeletal monument like thing. Makes me believe The Yellow King is just of something to worship or instil fear.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

In the preview:

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Rust comes across this room with a giant skeletal monument like thing. Makes me believe The Yellow King is just of something to worship or instil fear.

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See, I could see them assuming that and then like towards the end finding it's real. Kinda like Call of Cthulhu

 

[duckroll]

I'm now pretty sure Audrey is the girl in the 2012 murder. Shit's gonna hit the fan. The cult probably used her to lure Rust and Marty out... and in retaliation for reverend Tuttle.

She's not. The girl in the Lake Charles murdered is identified and there are details on her. It's all in the report.

 

[RustyNails]

oh look, more theories that have it all figured out... until next time when it all changes

I'm sure they put that together before the lingering shot of a boat in the last episode. yep.

Didnt you know? Rust's dad is the yellow king.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I think they will visit the actual Carcosa.

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There will be an actual place, the lair of the cult. That is Carcosa, and that's where everything ends. It's not supernatural, just creepy and fucked up and sinister. Place where nightmarish things happen.

 

[D4Danger]

Didnt you know? Rust's dad is the yellow king.

The lawnmower man is innocent. It's actually the lawnmower that's been committing all these murders. it can also transform into a boat when it needs to get away.

 

[Stark]

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See, I could see them assuming that and then like towards the end finding it's real. Kinda like Call of Cthulhu

That would be neat.

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Also, might explain why Rust kind of looked terrified. Never seen him like that. What's up with the demonic voice though

 

[EvaristeG]

I haven't see the scars on the guy's face at the end. I must be blind.

 

[RustyNails]

The lawnmower man is innocent. It's actually the lawnmower that's been committing all these murders. it can also transform into a boat when it needs to get away.

Spoiler alert dammit!

 

[Cornballer]

I haven't see the scars on the guy's face at the end. I must be blind.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I haven't see the scars on the guy's face at the end. I must be blind.

It's not your fault you were looking for the spaghetti...

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Episode 8 Preview Spoilers

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That's definitely Childress in the cross hairs. So they don't interrogate and kill him on the boat.

Maybe he's bait? Or they execute him?

There's also the Yellow King idol/skeleton thing in 'Carcosa'.

 

[Miss.Selfdestruct]

I still want them to go supernatural. Just a single frame of a man in yellow watching them inserted where no one could see it if they weren't going frame by frame or something



It's fine if they leave it as speculation. I think it's going to be the thing that finally drives Marty insane though.

TD going supernatural would butcher any legitimacy this show had for being a well written and executed show. There's sufficient fucked up people in the world to cover spooky shit. Imo, anyways

 

[PBY]

I still want them to go supernatural. Just a single frame of a man in yellow watching them inserted where no one could see it if they weren't going frame by frame or something



It's fine if they leave it as speculation. I think it's going to be the thing that finally drives Marty insane though.

Please no

 

[Sanjuro]

I still want them to go supernatural. Just a single frame of a man in yellow watching them inserted where no one could see it if they weren't going frame by frame or something



It's fine if they leave it as speculation. I think it's going to be the thing that finally drives Marty insane though.

I would instantly reduce True Detective to Newsroom-tier.

 

[LordCanti]

TD going supernatural would butcher any legitimacy this show had for being a well written and executed show. There's sufficient fucked up people in the world to cover spooky shit. Imo, anyways

I still say the owl in the church did all the murders. It makes so much sense that it has to be true.

The lawnmower probably worships the owl because the owl is incapable of being mowed (since he's not on the ground).

I would instantly reduce True Detective to Newsroom-tier.

Please no

A single frame inserted at the right time and you wouldn't even know about it until some autistic person went through frame by frame years later and found it (like the penis drawn in a single frame of...uhh...An American Tail? Or something?). It'd be great.

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I love easter eggs

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Please no

I was thinking weeks after it's all finished Marty finds one of those stick figures on the hood of his car.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

TD going supernatural would butcher any legitimacy this show had for being a well written and executed show. There's sufficient fucked up people in the world to cover spooky shit. Imo, anyways

Agreed. It's still Lovecraftian in that there is just evil that exists and is always out there, looming on the edge of sight...a place where we can't, or don't want to see. So we leave it there, feeling better in telling ourselves that it can't be.

 

[RukusProvider]

Carcosa = boat
Yellow King = skeleton (that might "grow" with each sacrifice)
Scar man = executioner

That's my take.

 

[Messypandas]

Ok I cracked for it real:

Yellow King =

Scar Man =

CARCOSA = MUFASA. SAME AMOUNT OF SYLLABLES

The whole thing is an elaborate meditation on Disney's renaissance in the 90's

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Ok I cracked for it real:

Yellow King =

Scar Man =

CARCOSA = MUFASA. SAME AMOUNT OF SYLLABLES

The whole thing is an elaborate meditation on Disney's renaissance in the 90's

That means Simba is the bad guy though.

 

[aFIGurANT]

what interests me is why...

There are killings before and after the Dora Lange case that weren't noticed. So why did the killer bring attention to all of it.

Because of the rogue element as has been noted here by other posters. Also without good police (Rust and Hart) the dots don't get connected. It's taken 17 years to get here, to Carcosa.

 

[jakefromstatefarm]

I'd be quite shocked if Maggie is involved. That would completely destroy the character. I was surprised that old housekeeper was actually a believer. That's the first woman (and black person) that's been shown to be involved with the cult, right?

Yeah, she was oddly supportive of a masculine-skewed perspective on life too. "Back then a man's house was his own," felt really weird coming out of her mouth.

Did anyone else find the final shot of the boat floating down the river right next to where Errol was mowing really corny? When they pulled back to show the river I got a sense like they'd do it to show how the solution was "under our noses the whole time" but it felt so heavy handed.

 

[aFIGurANT]

Yeah, she was oddly supportive of a masculine-skewed perspective on life too. "Back then a man's house was his own," felt really weird coming out of her mouth.

Did anyone else find the final shot of the boat floating down the river right next to where Errol was mowing really corny? When they pulled back to show the river I got a sense like they'd do it to show how the solution was "under our noses the whole time" but it felt so heavy handed.

I didn't see it as really corny. At that point I think the lingering shot and the quiet was like a nice inhalation before diving into water, a small moment of respite that G&P were afforded (through their ignorance) before the coming storm.

 

[Miss.Selfdestruct]

Wanna share with explanation? (spoiler tagged, of course)

Sure.

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I suspect that the Yellow King might be Reverend Tuttle. If not, I still believe he would be one of the few running this cult. Reasons: Rust pin points it all in a previous episode, why have all these murders and people missing (young girls specifically) been going on for so long unresolved in such a small place? Tuttle has the money and power to buy authority and manipulate it.

That said, I thought last night's episode was great. I like how prominent Maggie was to really display how disconnected Marty had been from Rust, his own work partner.

 

[AkuMifune]

God this show. So good. Every episode I'm surprised how straightforward yet still more clever it becomes.

It's sad how alone they both became. Very real and very crushing

 

[Socreges]

Sure.

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I suspect that the Yellow King might be Reverend Tuttle. If not, I still believe he would be one of the few running this cult. Reasons: Rust pin points it all in a previous episode, why have all these murders and people missing (young girls specifically) been going on for so long unresolved in such a small place? Tuttle has the money and power to buy authority and manipulate it.

That said, I thought last night's episode was great. I like how prominent Maggie was to really display how disconnected Marty had been from Rust, his own work partner.

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That's definitely the most popular theory going right now, I figure. He was even wearing some yellow when last seen, IIRC.

 

[Miss.Selfdestruct]

Looks like the way Marty's kid arranged those dolls.

His girl never specified where she saw that, right? The scene where Marty finds the dolls mid gang-raep was spooky. I figured they might have seen it in a video at school...

This fucking show.

I want Kate Blanchett and Kate Winslet as the two detectives for next season.

YES.

 

[Splatt]

All of the momentum from ep 4 and 5 is gone. Shame...

 

[AkuMifune]

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That's definitely the most popular theory going right now, I figure. He was even wearing some yellow when last seen, IIRC.

Wait.

Spoiler

But the Reverend Tuttle is dead. Died off-screen. Killed by people (or suicide) after finding our someone (Rust) stole the kiddie porn and may use it for blackmail. If he was the real Yellow King I doubt they would have dispatched him so summarily (his people, not the show). I guess it could be the brother, the Senator we've never met. But with so little time left we'll find out the killer is lawnmower guy, but hope we never see who the Yellow King was.

 

[Socreges]

Wait.

Spoiler

But the Reverend Tuttle is dead. Died off-screen. Killed by people (or suicide) after finding our someone (Rust) stole the kiddie porn and may use it for blackmail. If he was the real Yellow King I doubt they would have dispatched him so summarily (his people, not the show). I guess it could be the brother, the Senator we've never met. But with so little time left we'll find out the killer is lawnmower guy, but hope we never see who the Yellow King was.

You're right. Got my Tuttles mixed.

 

[Sanjuro]

I think the best ending for this show would be Rust getting lost trying to come up with this case, loses his mind and becomes more paranoid about authority figures and government.

It's then revealed that his true name is Rusty Shackleford and he begins next season as Dale Gribble.

True King of the Hill.

 

[Cornballer]

You're right. Got my Tuttles mixed.

I want to start using this in everyday conversation. "My mistake. Got my Tuttles mixed."

 

[Pollux]

Welp, I think Reddit has convinced me on who the Yellow King is:



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That doesn't even make any god damn sense. Nobody is going to be terrified of a boat. The Yellow King is definitely a person or some entity that this group worships and sacrifices people to, and Carcosa is probably the name of the Tuttle estate/land that the Tuttle family owns where these sacrifices take place.