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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st
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pulga
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They kinda had to wrap up those loose ends in 2002, not much of a way around it. It's about to get fucking crazy, though!
reddit probably has some screencaps from the last episode: http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/top/?sort=top&t=day
They did have to wrap up them up, you're right... but some of the scenes just took too much time and could have just been hinted at or shown more briefly, since they telegraphed what was coming so clearly to the audience.
maquiladora
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Scars?
pulga
Banned
im sure you enjoyed rust's 15 second go at dat ass then
well it's clearly not the Rev. since he's dead, but I guess he could have scars on his body. The catatonic girl never said where the scars were.
im sure you enjoyed rust's 15 second go at dat ass then
That was the best part!
Both dem asses
Hnngngggggggg
They don't shy away from the thrusting on this show at all, do they
excaliburps
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Maggie says hi http://gfycat.com/SplendidParchedAoudad#?format=gif
Didn't embed since it's NSFW.Is the preview for Episode 7 up?
Overall, Episode 6 was good, but I agree with the other posters, it focused too much on things we already know and were expecting to happen. I wonder how they'll fit everything in two episodes.
So, at this point, can we take out Rust's name in the list of suspects? Judging from his reactions and whatnot, it really doesn't seem like him, I think. And his mug appearing in pictures? Way too convenient and seems to be something he did intentionally.
Just annoyed we have to wait another week to see the next one.
Gaf_SentMe
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Maggie says hi http://gfycat.com/SplendidParchedAoudad#?format=gif
Is the preview for Episode 7 up?
Overall, Episode 6 was good, but I agree with the other posters, it focused too much on things we already know and were expecting to happen. I wonder how they'll fit everything in two episodes.
So, at this point, can we take out Rust's name in the list of suspects? Judging from his reactions and whatnot, it really doesn't seem like him, I think. And his mug appearing in pictures? Way too convenient and seems to be something he did intentionally.
Just annoyed we have to wait another week to see the next one.
Thanks. Peeped the Reddit thread. Such a nice booty. I laugh at some of the posters there thinking it was a stunt booty. That was all her.
That was the reason why i put up my link. Better (drag to zoom): http://gfycat.com/GoodQueasyGibbon
excaliburps
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Thinking the same thing, to be honest. Was there confirmation it was really her and not a stunt booty?
Wonder if Marty ever cheated on her aside from D'darrio and the ex-bunny rancher. His attitude and personality suggests he's a chronic cheater/alcoholic, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
I posted about this after last week's episode, but I don't think we as the audience were ever supposed to really put stock into Rust as the killer. The cops are because from their view he's suspicious as hell, but we've seen him investigate the case on his own numerous times. Both in 95 and in 02. Makes no sense for him to be in on it.
If we had only seen him with Marty or other characters then maybe, but that hasn't been the case.
Kadayi
Banned
Definitely a different vibe from this episode compared to the previous. But quite an important episode in terms of outlining the breakdown and split of both of the working and personal relationships between Maggie, Marty & Rust.
I thought Michelle Monaghan was fantastic in her turn as Maggie and I really liked the no-nonsense steely determination of her as the woman betrayed, and the way that she just goes for the jugular in getting her vengeance on Marty and ensuring that her actions would be the death knell to the marriage without question. It's brutal, ugly, devastating and without sentiment and there's something quite refreshing about that absolute warts and all honesty as to how things can go south. Despite the fact that there clearly existed some form of friendship between her and Rust, Maggie is ready to sacrifice that in its entirety by leveraging Rusts frailties and that small torch she knows that he does carry for her as the emblem of a life he lost, turning up at his apartment late at night with a bottle in hand.
That Rust is already half cut makes the seduction that much easier, and him losing himself so easily in her only to realise as she pushes him away in order to hitch up her panties that it was never about him and her and perhaps the possibility of a future was just raw, and it's no surprise that he is outraged that she played him so easily, or that he walks resignedly into the inevitable forecourt smack down from Marty.
I also thought it was great the way she laid it all on Marty and pretty much was goading him into punching her out. An act whose repercussions would surely of put paid to both his reputation and career in one fell swoop. Maggie is burning down the house. That Marty despite the tumult of emotions that he must of been feeling was able to rein himself in says a lot about how despite everything, he's a different man from that which we encountered in 1995 in terms of being better able to manage his anger (if not his libido) and is the pre-cursor to him wisely putting his gun away before confronting Rust lest he send him the way of Reggie Ledoux.
Albeit neither of the leads will be back for further True Detective, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Michelle Monaghan return in a new role as perhaps one of next seasons detectives. Although her appearances have been limited I think she's done a great job in breathing life into Maggie, and I'd love to see her do more TV drama of this calibre.
I thought Michelle Monaghan was fantastic in her turn as Maggie and I really liked the no-nonsense steely determination of her as the woman betrayed, and the way that she just goes for the jugular in getting her vengeance on Marty and ensuring that her actions would be the death knell to the marriage without question. It's brutal, ugly, devastating and without sentiment and there's something quite refreshing about that absolute warts and all honesty as to how things can go south. Despite the fact that there clearly existed some form of friendship between her and Rust, Maggie is ready to sacrifice that in its entirety by leveraging Rusts frailties and that small torch she knows that he does carry for her as the emblem of a life he lost, turning up at his apartment late at night with a bottle in hand.
That Rust is already half cut makes the seduction that much easier, and him losing himself so easily in her only to realise as she pushes him away in order to hitch up her panties that it was never about him and her and perhaps the possibility of a future was just raw, and it's no surprise that he is outraged that she played him so easily, or that he walks resignedly into the inevitable forecourt smack down from Marty.
I also thought it was great the way she laid it all on Marty and pretty much was goading him into punching her out. An act whose repercussions would surely of put paid to both his reputation and career in one fell swoop. Maggie is burning down the house. That Marty despite the tumult of emotions that he must of been feeling was able to rein himself in says a lot about how despite everything, he's a different man from that which we encountered in 1995 in terms of being better able to manage his anger (if not his libido) and is the pre-cursor to him wisely putting his gun away before confronting Rust lest he send him the way of Reggie Ledoux.
Albeit neither of the leads will be back for further True Detective, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Michelle Monaghan return in a new role as perhaps one of next seasons detectives. Although her appearances have been limited I think she's done a great job in breathing life into Maggie, and I'd love to see her do more TV drama of this calibre.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Assuming most here have seen this but if not might be a little spoilerish while it is still speculation seems like a pretty good find
https://twitter.com/andylevy/status/437295461075279873
5 men directly involved in these killings
Gaf_SentMe
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Well she said she gained weight because she was pregnant at the time. They had to size up for her fitting. She has long legs (5'7) and her small waist + body arch + camera angle = her fine ass booty. Look at me, fn Mr. Skin all of a sudden smh.
ProudCanuck
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so i finally got around to watching all 6 episodes last night.
I thought Breaking Bad was the Everest and its downhill from there, then I saw this and realized we have reached space.
I thought Breaking Bad was the Everest and its downhill from there, then I saw this and realized we have reached space.
This reminds me of that interview with pizzolato saying that television viewers have been abused for years and are always expecting to be deceived. Its been a recurring theme that he hates people who hurt kids. He killed a man for injecting a baby with drugs. He told the kid from the projects to sit in the tub. He says that what Marty did to ladeauz was justice. He just has a soft spot for kids is all, and that can be part of his trauma having lost his daughter.
BobTheFork
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I caught up with the first 5 from my roomates DVR, and I'll watch 6 tonight.
I don't know if I love this show but I'm invested and I really want to see where this goes. It feels like they are been dancing around the possibilities and we are about to get some seriously weird shit about to go down.
How many episodes will this story/sesason be?
I don't know if I love this show but I'm invested and I really want to see where this goes. It feels like they are been dancing around the possibilities and we are about to get some seriously weird shit about to go down.
How many episodes will this story/sesason be?
Check Mark
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Cohle's disappointment, anger and subtle sadness when he sits on the couch after the fight which culminate in him quitting the job and saying shit like "Fuck this world"
It's like a better version of after Johnny and Mark fight in The Room
Cpt.Underpants
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Gotta love dat bounce on Maggie's butt
Wow at Cohle's reaction when Maggie told what she did as a fuck you to Martin, what a total nut
Wow at Cohle's reaction when Maggie told what she did as a fuck you to Martin, what a total nut
usernamechange
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... did you skip the very next line of the review? It's all about seeing too much into things.
Ninja Beagle
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On Maggie: Has sex for 15 seconds and claims it was the best she's had.
Shiiiit! That's the perfect girl for me. I'm heroic for that long too.
Shiiiit! That's the perfect girl for me. I'm heroic for that long too.
You want someone who lies? She just wanted to revenge fuck, but failed and lies to Marty about it
| Praxis |
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Being careful what I read in here, but this is the best show on tv at the minute. Just finished episode 3, the end was amazing. Great soundtrack.
Oh man, episode 4 will blow your mind - watch it as soon as you can
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ProudCanuck
Banned
Just watched it. Mildly surprised by all the articles saying True Detective hates women, can't write women, etc - surprised because I don't think it's very true, not surprised that the Internet in this day and age reacts to it like that.
Clearly here, Maggie is being a bit of a dick when she fucks Rust. But her reaction on calling Marty a coward, the way she straight up tells him without dilly dallying or lying like he does, the fact he calls her a fucking whore like the hypocrite he is; Pizzolato is clearly making Marty the real cumstain here, from his distaste at buying something as innocuous as tampons to his inability to see that he drove her to this.
It's like the Wolf of Wall Street stuff, people mistaking observation for glorification. There's no way Marty doesn't come off the worse of the two here, and Pizzolato has done that deliberately. It's a bunch of flawed prick males; not original, but it's not poorly done or vilifying women.
Maggie's quite well written I think, considering the amount of time she's had on screen. The show isn't about her, or about women, it's about men. Like I say it's not original, but some people seem to want this show to be about something it isn't (much in the same way this episode is getting a bit of flak for just filling in gaps, or confirming things we already knew; reminds me of how people were slamming BB's finale for predictability instead of recognising that that way was the best way and commenting on the execution of said plot).
Clearly here, Maggie is being a bit of a dick when she fucks Rust. But her reaction on calling Marty a coward, the way she straight up tells him without dilly dallying or lying like he does, the fact he calls her a fucking whore like the hypocrite he is; Pizzolato is clearly making Marty the real cumstain here, from his distaste at buying something as innocuous as tampons to his inability to see that he drove her to this.
It's like the Wolf of Wall Street stuff, people mistaking observation for glorification. There's no way Marty doesn't come off the worse of the two here, and Pizzolato has done that deliberately. It's a bunch of flawed prick males; not original, but it's not poorly done or vilifying women.
Maggie's quite well written I think, considering the amount of time she's had on screen. The show isn't about her, or about women, it's about men. Like I say it's not original, but some people seem to want this show to be about something it isn't (much in the same way this episode is getting a bit of flak for just filling in gaps, or confirming things we already knew; reminds me of how people were slamming BB's finale for predictability instead of recognising that that way was the best way and commenting on the execution of said plot).
Nussbaum's gonna Nussbaum.
Cornballer
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Anything that has already aired is fair game. In addition, if you're just speculating, then please post without tags. Things that need to be spoiler tagged include preview/promo discussion, anything that gives away things that haven't aired yet (e.g. one of the actors or the writer says something about a future episode in any interview), as well as speculation that's informed by any of this (e.g. "Well, we see in the preview that X happens, so I think that Y will also occur.) If anyone has additional questions about this, feel free to ask.
I both hope and suspect that we will not find out who the Yellow King is. The idea is obviously taken from Robert Chambers, and in keeping with that, the Yellow King should remain a distant figure of menace and malice, influencing others. I hope next season will have another, different connection to the Yellow King.
Kadayi
Banned
I think unfortunately there's a lot of PC filtering going on in the reviews and a bit of reluctance to acknowledge that women as well as men can do very bad things when they're motivated. The crime is that it's a man writing a female character that way. Where as I suspect if it was a female writer they'd be less inclined to throw the accusations around. Personally I do feel that too much credence is given over to gender versus human response. Certainly our genitals and body forms are differently arranged, but the brains are still the same, and people often forget that at times. As expressed earlier on I really liked where the shows taken Maggie in terms of bringing the cold fury, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that because I've seem that sort of thing occur in real life when relationships have broken down due to betrayal (or perceived betrayal). It's fucking ugly (especially when children are involved) and no one comes out looking good from it a lot of the time. It would be all to easy to play Maggie as the on a pedestal Madonna, wronged by Marty but devoid of sin herself, so to have her out and out wreck everything deliberately is quite refreshing.
I almost see her actions as a counterpoint to the actions of Betty in Mad Men where seeking revenge on Don for his various infidelities she goes to a bar for a rough backroom liaison with a total stranger and comes away less than satisfied that she's achieved her goal. Where as Maggie rejects that approach not because she couldn't do it, but because it wasn't meaningful enough an act of betrayal to truly cut Marty to the core. There's some quite deliciously vindictive about targeting Rust, even though he's done her no harm and isn't really deserving of the treatment despite himself.
I would presume the Yellow King is something they commit the murders in the name of? Like ritual killings to a deity, in this case the Yellow King?
Although the man with the scars might be leader of the cult or something.
Yeah, exactly. Twice now this season we've had women wronged by Marty Hart show him up for the hypocrite cheating shitbag he is, by using initiative and cunning, by not being afraid of him.
Does it mean either is a good person? No, because they've committed the same crime as Marty. They just don't hide it like he did, and because they don't feature as much doesn't mean the show doesn't know how to write women. It just means it's about men, and it's a lie to say they don't come off worse than the women.
Mackenzie 92
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I thought it was a good episode. I wish Rust wouldn't have held out during the fight tho. Also there's no way Marty could get young women that hot.
Cornballer
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- Warming Glow with a few thoughts on last night's episode (there are a couple potential spoilers towards the end)
Interesting episode. It comes to no surprise that Marty's back at it again. Like Rust already told Gilbough and Papania, time repeats itself, so the question was merely when the opportunity would present itself again. Marty's got his own internal demons that he's battling, and it's a fight that he has never won. I was wondering how Maggie would retaliate by the act of betrayal. She shut him out last time he cheated, but this time, she wanted to hurt him in the most profound of ways. She wanted Marty to actually feel like the failure that he was, and if it meant that it would be at the expense of Marty's and Rust's relationship, then so be it. This is no one's fault other than Marty's, who couldn't keep his fidelity in check. To see how he blames everyone but himself just goes to show that he really hasn't learned anything. The the only person that brought this on him was himself.
As for the rest of the episode, the exchange between Rust and the reverend was noteworthy. The revelations pretty much rules out the rev as a suspect, but what came out of that exchange wasn't very surprising. We all knew that Tuttle's a shady bastard that's involved with the cult in some form. As already mentioned, it was interesting to see that Tuttle's right hand man still remains in the force. I'm sure that Rust's digging must of given them all a pretty severe headache. The girl from the psych ward mentioned a giant with scars.
It will nonetheless be interesting to see how all of this concludes. I'm stoked.
Oh, it's cool to see all these people being brought back from The Wire, and other shows. I've seen that there's been mentions of Boardwalk Empire. I haven't seen it, but I think it's cool that HBO's assembling many actors from these other great shows to this one. They're really going all out on this one, and it really shows. Fantastic stuff.
As for the rest of the episode, the exchange between Rust and the reverend was noteworthy. The revelations pretty much rules out the rev as a suspect, but what came out of that exchange wasn't very surprising. We all knew that Tuttle's a shady bastard that's involved with the cult in some form. As already mentioned, it was interesting to see that Tuttle's right hand man still remains in the force. I'm sure that Rust's digging must of given them all a pretty severe headache. The girl from the psych ward mentioned a giant with scars.
We know from episode three that Dora Lange was accompanied by a tall man with a scar on his face, and the only person that has manifested any resemblance to that description is the lawn mower from episode 2. The same man who is suspected to be the green man from the facial composite.
Oh, it's cool to see all these people being brought back from The Wire, and other shows. I've seen that there's been mentions of Boardwalk Empire. I haven't seen it, but I think it's cool that HBO's assembling many actors from these other great shows to this one. They're really going all out on this one, and it really shows. Fantastic stuff.
Now, as for the next episode: It looks like it's about to get even more insane from here.. Down the spiral, into the realm of madness, we go.
ToyMachine228
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My favorite part of that episode was Rust answering the door, seeing Maggie and just saying "What?" No "Hi" or anything.
I don't think we will have a resolution to the murders either. I'm expecting the relationship between Rust and Marty to come to some kind of finality and that's it.
Anton Sugar
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I really don't think this show is concerned with karma of any kind.
So we finally come to the end of Act 2. That was pretty good stuff, and I love how the show continues to focus far more on the characters and who they are, rather than just the "case". In fact, almost nothing happened this week in terms of building on the case meaningfully but goddamn Rust and Marty are so compelling. I'm glad they're going to be together again for the final Act, and that last shot of the broken light at the back of Rust's truck was a pretty great idea thematically.
Sadly, Shea Whigham continues to ruin scenes for me again. It's really not his fault I think, but it's unfortunate. I can't unsee Eli. It's even worse here when he's down on his luck now and reduced to an alcoholic. The entire scene between him and Rust felt like a weird True Detective/Boardwalk Empire crossover where Rust is questioning Eli about bad things Nucky has been doing or covering up. Lol.
Another thing that's bothering me a little is that I'm starting to dislike the way that women are portrayed on the show. It's obvious they're being written as examples of the consequences of what men in authority can do to others. That's fine. But as characters it's starting to feel a little too obvious that the story is written by a guy who thinks very much like a guy and is writing a story about guys. Every notable female character on the show is either used as a form of temptation or a commentary on how bad men treat women and sometimes the price men pay when they wrong "their" women. It's one part of the hard boiled masculine narrative which I think would benefit from being toned down or balanced out in a more meaningful way.
The writer seems well aware of this "issue"
Not that this confirms anything, but maybe season two will have a female detective as protagonist; or at least, deeper female characters
The only explanation I can think of is that
Rust acquired the video VERY recently, possibly even between the time the other detectives interviewed each of them (remember, they finished talking to Rust before they began talking to Marty).
For Beth, it's not about what Marty looks like. Marty essentially marked a turning point in her life, and Beth is likely thanking Marty in the only way she knows how.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Or he didn't want to get Marty involved. He probably got it by breaking into Tuttle's house 2 years ago. In the promo you see Rust wearing a ski mask.
Marty wasn't exactly interested in the case reopening.
Still, I think Rust would have told Marty in that time, so they better have a good explanation.
Marty wasn't exactly interested in the case reopening.
Still, I think Rust would have told Marty in that time, so they better have a good explanation.
Cornballer
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