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Content Roundup - Episode 5 - The Secret Fate Of All Life

Reviews:

- Onion A|V Club review
- Sepinwall's review
- NY Mag
- TV.com
- Nola.com
- Rolling Stone review
- The Atlantic on tonight's episode
- Daily Beast review
- Boing Boing
- IndieWire
- Slate.com
- Warming Glow on last night’s episode
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Videos:

- Inside the Episode #5 - The Yellow King
- Inside the Episode #5
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag all discussion)​

Other

who's a bad motherfucker..

And gifs:

- Music listings
- Screencaps
- More posters from Mondo
- Alyssa Rosenberg on the yellow king and Carcosa
- io9 on The King in Yellow
- Onion A|V Club: Beyond True Detective: 17 TV long takes worth your attention (spoilers for a few other shows)
- The King in Yellow is free to purchase on Amazon Kindle, if anyone wants to check it out.​

 

[Whooter]

I want Marty's "Pulse" t-shirt.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Spoiler

Anybody else notice that the jail guards, where Guy Francis commits Suicide, one is named Childress? In first episode we heard about the Fontenot family and the old Sheriff Childress who may have covered it up

Pay attention lol

The one guard looked like he was trying to intimidate the dude when they leave him in the cell. He kind of hangs around for a second or 2 while the other one walks away.

 

[raindoc]

What are the chances Tuttle has a son or something who is the Yellow King who Tuttle is covering up for?

Tuttle is dead.

 

[Solo]

Tuttle is dead.

I'm aware, but what's your point? He's dead in 2010, but alive for the 15 previous years of murders. Hes got pull and power and he could pull strings to cover up for someone. Perhaps he truly did kill himself in 2010 out of guilt for allowing it to go on.

 

[raindoc]

I'm aware, but what's your point? He's dead in 2010, but alive for the 15 previous years of murders. Hes got pull and power and he could pull strings to cover up for someone. Perhaps he truly did kill himself in 2010 out of guilt for allowing it to go on.

my point is, that there've been murders after he died and at least one of them got really covered up, according to Rust. When T was still around, there were press conferences etc. concerning the murders.

 

[Solo]

Perhaps. One way or the other I think its clear Tuttle was involved somehow.

 

[jvm]

So the writer said that the outline for the first six episodes was contained in the first episode. Great.

Does that mean that we'll see a turn of sorts with episodes 7 and 8? Kind of reaching a point where there isn't any more flashback and it moves fully into the present?

That quote from the interview about waiting out the bad times -- I wonder if that's what Rust has been doing all this time. Or if he thinks that's what he was doing when he was deep undercover.

I really, really don't want this story to end up being about the loss of Marty's daughter, or daughters.

 

[offtopic]

There's only one reason why someone who has been successfully living off the grid for almost a decade would do something so randomly banal as register his car, and that's because he wanted to be found by someone who he thinks is looking for him and who has access to state databases.

Yeah I think that one piece we are missing here is that the only thing Cohle has been doing since 2002 is investigating the murder. He is back on the grid because that is the next piece he needs. Sort of an obsessive fellow...

 

[raindoc]

Perhaps. One way or the other I think its clear Tuttle was involved somehow.

i don't want to argue against that, but I think that nothing is "clear" atm, other than that Rust knows a lot more about the Yellow King than we do, so we should "better start asking the right fucking questions".

IMO they could even pull of Rust as the yellow king and killer ATM, with the audience assuming the role of the "true detective" as defined by Marty's "Detective's curse" - ignoring what's right in front of you.

 

[Raiden]

Recently watched all currently available episodes and holy hell what the hell is this.

I mean its fucking incredible ...

Episode 4 where Cohle goes on this mission with his bikerbuddys was one of the greatest action sequences i have seen. And all in one shot Gravity style. I think i watched that bit about 4 times now. Amazing performance by Matthew who is on acting steriods lately.

 

[anarckitty]

i don't want to argue against that, but I think that nothing is "clear" atm, other than that Rust knows a lot more about the Yellow King than we do, so we should "better start asking the right fucking questions".

IMO they could even pull of Rust as the yellow king and killer ATM, with the audience assuming the role of the "true detective" as defined by Marty's "Detective's curse" - ignoring what's right in front of you.

Honestly, I hope they don't do that. It makes way more sense that he's essentially gone into hiding due to the big people involved in these murders and has continued to investigate the murders on the down low.

 

[TheOddOne]

So the writer said that the outline for the first six episodes was contained in the first episode. Great.

Felt like episode 5 was really about Chole―From the interrogation, how Ledoux shootout went down and the aftermath of it, his renowned interrogation skills and his confrontation with the bank robber (who utters “Yellow King” and later commits suicide), questions about Chole’s off the grid activities and his resurgence after years, him showing up at crime scenes, and how new and old evidence did not quite add up in Chole’s favor.

Marty was given less exposition, instead we got some insights into his grown up kids, his role in how it went down with Ledoux and is presented with the evidence against Chole.

My guess is that next week’s episode will be heavy on Marty and episodes after that will probably take place in 2012.

 

[kirblar]

The flashbacks shouuld end next episode, hence Ep6 being the end of the "outline" as the series moves completely to the present day.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

This is somewhat unrelated, but Cornballer, do you sleep?

With all these television updates and gathering of information, how can you?

 

[Raiden]

Is this a one season kinda thing? Or will they get renewed depending on the rating?

I kinda hope it stays in one perfect season. This might be some of the best television i have seen so far.

I might be too hyped atm but i'd hate to see this thing go down ala True Blood just because it has great ratings.

 

[anarckitty]

Is this a one season kinda thing? Or will they get renewed depending on the rating?

I kinda hope it stays in one perfect season. This might be some of the best television i have seen so far.

I might be too hyped atm but i'd hate to see this thing go down ala True Blood just because it has great ratings.

Each season is supposed to be an anthology, although, MM has said he'd be interested in coming back if they'd have him.

 

[Cornballer]

Is this a one season kinda thing? Or will they get renewed depending on the rating?

It will get renewed, but presumably they're firming up the S2 cast before they make an announcement.

It's an anthology series, so next season will be written by Pizzolatto but will have a new director, new cast, and a new story.

 

[MikeHaggar]

i'm wondering what the chances are of marty being involved in the killings/cult are. there's the "issues" with his daughter and the art in his home. additionally, he lied to the current detectives about things going well in his life after the "shootout". while he's telling them "things were good" we're being shown the problems going on with his daughter. there's a clear contrast there that is certainly intentional on the part of the writer. i understand lying about the shootout, but i don't understand why they chose to present him as a liar in that regard.

 

[Raiden]

Each season is supposed to be an anthology, although, MM has said he'd be interested in coming back if they'd have him.

It will get renewed, but presumably they're firming up the S2 cast before they make an announcement.

It's an anthology series, so next season will be written by Pizzolatto but will have a new director, new cast, and a new story.

Ah thats pretty great actually. I love stuff like this. No filler; no bullshit, just purely the plot.

 

[mre]

Yeah I think that one piece we are missing here is that the only thing Cohle has been doing since 2002 is investigating the murder. He is back on the grid because that is the next piece he needs. Sort of an obsessive fellow...

I agree. He either reached a dead end in his investigation and surfaced to try and stir the pot, or he thought he had a bead on the killer(s) and surfaced to try and rattle them.

The more I think about Tuttle, I'm sure he was involved in at least the cover-up if not in the procurement of victims for the killer, but wasn't the killer himself. I also doubt that Cohle had anything to do with his death, beyond the fact that his investigation into Tuttle was the impetus behind his death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are only two characters that we know of who have committed suicide so far in this show: Southern Fried and Tuttle. We know that Southern Fried killed himself after (1) opening his mouth to Cohle and (2) receiving a phone call from a mysterious stranger who, presumably, convinced him through some manner of coercion to commit suicide.

I think what likely happened is that Cohle's investigation into Tuttle got to close to uncovering some key fact about the Yellow King, and that Tuttle received a phone call / message "encouraging" him to commit suicide.

Now, do we know which happened first: Tuttle's death or Cohle's reappearance on the grid? If Tuttle committed suicide before Cohle reappeared by registering his car, then Cohle's surfacing could have been his way of kicking the hornet's nest following the loss of his key suspect. If Cohle's reappearance on the grid occurred first, then Tuttle's suicide could be a direct result of his reappearance, as the Yellow King knew Tuttle would be the focus of Cohle's investigation.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

Just thought if something. Rust left the force so that Tuttle(preacher or governor) couldn't keep tabs on him and interfere with his investigation.

 

[Anton Sugar]

i'm wondering what the chances are of marty being involved in the killings/cult are. there's the "issues" with his daughter and the art in his home. additionally, he lied to the current detectives about things going well in his life after the "shootout". while he's telling them "things were good" we're being shown the problems going on with his daughter. there's a clear contrast there that is certainly intentional on the part of the writer. i understand lying about the shootout, but i don't understand why they chose to present him as a liar in that regard.

I don't think it's meant to be read that way. Remember, the shootout happened in 1995, and all of the problems with Marty's teen daughter occur in 2002. Sometime after the shootout in 1995, Maggie took Marty back and they were happy, then problems started occurring in or around 2002 again.

 

[-griffy-]

There's only one reason why someone who has been successfully living off the grid for almost a decade would do something so randomly banal as register his car, and that's because he wanted to be found by someone who he thinks is looking for him and who has access to state databases.

Yeah, it's exactly what Marty said to the 2012 detectives in the last episode. They thought they've been questioning him, but it's actually been Rust who is sizing them up. In the very first episode it was clear he was more interested in what they had then they were in what he knows.

 

[raindoc]

I don't think it's meant to be read that way. Remember, the shootout happened in 1995, and all of the problems with Marty's teen daughter occur in 2002. Sometime after the shootout in 1995, Maggie took Marty back and they were happy, then problems started occurring in or around 2002 again.

hence his remorse for "not being there". failing to see the road his daughter embarked on, thinking all was well.

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

I agree. He either reached a dead end in his investigation and surfaced to try and stir the pot, or he thought he had a bead on the killer(s) and surfaced to try and rattle them.

The more I think about Tuttle, I'm sure he was involved in at least the cover-up if not in the procurement of victims for the killer, but wasn't the killer himself. I also doubt that Cohle had anything to do with his death, beyond the fact that his investigation into Tuttle was the impetus behind his death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are only two characters that we know of who have committed suicide so far in this show: Southern Fried and Tuttle. We know that Southern Fried killed himself after (1) opening his mouth to Cohle and (2) receiving a phone call from a mysterious stranger who, presumably, convinced him through some manner of coercion to commit suicide.

I think what likely happened is that Cohle's investigation into Tuttle got to close to uncovering some key fact about the Yellow King, and that Tuttle received a phone call / message "encouraging" him to commit suicide.

Now, do we know which happened first: Tuttle's death or Cohle's reappearance on the grid? If Tuttle committed suicide before Cohle reappeared by registering his car, then Cohle's surfacing could have been his way of kicking the hornet's nest following the loss of his key suspect. If Cohle's reappearance on the grid occurred first, then Tuttle's suicide could be a direct result of his reappearance, as the Yellow King knew Tuttle would be the focus of Cohle's investigation.

Yeah this definitely makes the most sense. When I realized Tuttle was dead I was actually relieved because it makes me fairly confident he's not the killer.

The prospect of Marty being involved like someone suggested is certainly interesting though. Maybe he passively lets something go and that's what splits up him and Cohle.

Also what do we think splits up Marty's family? I was really sure for a minute during the last episode the daughter was going to commit suicide and his wife was going to blame him...

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

Does that mean that we'll see a turn of sorts with episodes 7 and 8?

end game, I assume. The first 6 set up the pieces, the last 2 are the closing act.

This is somewhat unrelated, but Cornballer, do you sleep?

With all these television updates and gathering of information, how can you?

sentient computer programs don't need to rest, yo

 

[lamaroo]

I'm guessing Tuttle knew the killer, probably a family member, and was trying to cover up for them in 1995. Convinced them to stop leaving bodies for the police to find, but after he died, there was nothing holding the killer back from creating snother scene.

 

[MikeHaggar]

I don't think it's meant to be read that way. Remember, the shootout happened in 1995, and all of the problems with Marty's teen daughter occur in 2002. Sometime after the shootout in 1995, Maggie took Marty back and they were happy, then problems started occurring in or around 2002 again.

yeah, i can see that. it was strange though because as he was saying "things were good" they immediately jump to the flashback and we're being shown things are not so good. i can accept that i am probably misreading it, but it could have been presented better. it really felt like another case of "unreliable narrator" to me...

 

[Anton Sugar]

yeah, i can see that. it was strange though because as he was saying "things were good" they immediately jump to the flashback and we're being shown things are not so good. i can accept that i am probably misreading it, but it could have been presented better. it really felt like another case of "unreliable narrator" to me...

I can see how you'd think that.

I really do love Harrelson's performance in this. I think when he mentions the good years, mentally, he is juxtaposing them to the bad and how he lost it all. He only recognizes them as good years because of the bad years that came afterward.

You know when you’re in the good years, or you just wait for ‘em until you get ass cancer and realize that the good years came and went? ‘Cause there’s a feeling that—you might notice it sometime—this feeling that life has… slipped through your fingers… like the future’s behind you; like… like it’s always been behind you. You know, I cleaned up, but maybe I didn’t change… not the way I needed to. Remember what I said about the detective’s curse….The solution to my life was right under my nose…. That woman, those kids… and I was watching everything else. See, infidelity is one kind of sin, but my true failure was inattention. I understand that now.

Without the bad years, maybe he could have never recognized the other years as good. That's why he took them for granted, and knowing that he can't appreciate these things until they're gone is...well, depressing.

 

[B33]

It will get renewed, but presumably they're firming up the S2 cast before they make an announcement.

It's an anthology series, so next season will be written by Pizzolatto but will have a new director, new cast, and a new story.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pizzolatto related he was still writing the next season in an interview with The Daily Beast. Nothing has been approved, but I think we'd all be surprised if the series doesn't get a second season.

Casting usually doesn't begin in earnest until a draft is approved by the powers that be.

I'm skeptical of any announcements being made about the cast within the next couple of months. Keep in mind that casting can dramatically change. McConaughey was originally in talks to play Hart before Harrelson signed on to the project.

You're, of course, spot-on with everything else. Rust and Hart's journey ends with the finale of season 1. Pizzolatto retains the literary rights to them, so he could write a spin-off novel featuring the two.

 

[Cornballer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pizzolatto related he was still writing the next season in an interview with The Daily Beast. Nothing has been approved, but I think we'd all be surprised if the series doesn't get a second season.

Casting usually doesn't begin in earnest until a draft is approved by the powers that be.

I'm skeptical of any announcements being made about the cast within the next couple of months. Keep in mind that casting can dramatically change. McConaughey was originally in talks to play Hart before Harrelson signed on to the project.

You're, of course, spot-on with everything else. Rust and Hart's journey ends with the finale of season 1. Pizzolatto retains the literary rights to them, so he could write a spin-off novel featuring the two.

We'll have to wait and see, and most of this is in the category of educated guesses. We do know that Pizzolatto signed a new contract with HBO. Also, he's working on S2, but it's unclear where he is in that process. He'd probably need to get at least a script or two plus an outline to HBO before they sign off on anything and casting begins. The speculation that they'd want to wait until the cast is settled is based on something that Sepinwall said - they could certainly announce before then if they want to. I doubt they'd want to wait until after this season finishes to officially renew the show, but again, this is just guesswork on my part.

 

[Kadayi]

We'll have to wait and see, and most of this is in the category of educated guesses. We do know that Pizzolatto signed a new contract with HBO. Also, he's working on S2, but it's unclear where he is in that process. He'd probably need to get at least a script or two plus an outline to HBO before they sign off on anything and casting begins. The speculation that they'd want to wait until the cast is settled is based on something that Sepinwall said - they could certainly announce before then if they want to. I doubt they'd want to wait until after this season finishes to officially renew the show, but again, this is just guesswork on my part.

Yeah. Clearly Pizzolatto impressed the shit out of them with Season 1 but that might well be lightning in a bottle (thus getting him to sign a general contract). But for all anyone knows his season 2 outline might be hot garbage and HBO might take a view that rewrites are in order or that other writers are required to round it out.

I suspect the thing HBO least want to do it tie themselves down to a show pony like they did with Milch in that they had a guy who wrote a great series (Deadwood) and then largely managed to piss away all the good will people had for him with a largely incomprehensible followup (John from Cincinnati).

 

[wenis]

end game, I assume. The first 6 set up the pieces, the last 2 are the closing act.sentient computer programs don't need to rest, yo

it's the act where we go mad.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I don't think it's meant to be read that way. Remember, the shootout happened in 1995, and all of the problems with Marty's teen daughter occur in 2002. Sometime after the shootout in 1995, Maggie took Marty back and they were happy, then problems started occurring in or around 2002 again.

I disagree. It was clearly more of Marty misleading but I don't think it was anything more sinister than just his shame over a failed marriage.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I disagree. It was clearly more of Marty misleading but I don't think it was anything more sinister than just his shame over a failed marriage.

You think he's misleading when he says they had some good years after they got back together? I don't disagree that he feels shame over his failed marriage, nor do I think it was anything more than that.

I do think that their relationship improved/they had "good" years. Otherwise, why posit the question of how hard it can be to recognize good years when you're in them?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

You think he's misleading when he says they had some good years after they got back together? I don't disagree that he feels shame over his failed marriage, nor do I think it was anything more than that.

I do think that their relationship improved/they had "good" years. Otherwise, why posit the question of how hard it can be to recognize good years when you're in them?

I don't think they were good, no. They were perfunctory. He basically admits this anyway over the (best ever in television history, not kidding, fuck the six minute tracking sequence, that's kids stuff) tiara fade sequence. He didn't appreciate what he had, what was there, I can hardly imagine he'd consider that time "good", no matter what he tells people.

 

[UltimaPooh]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...ective-20140108,0,6934835.story#axzz2tf1EqkMY



http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/true-detective-writer-nic-pizzolatto-tells-tall-tales-20140113



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-mind-of-true-detective-s-nic-pizzolatto.html




It's clear he has no real interest in the mystery itself in the conventional sense, only so much as there being a sort of mystery that unfolds allows him to tell a story about these two men, who they are, what they did, and the world around them. It's very much a character study piece about two detectives caught in solving a crime that is more than what it seems, rather than a traditional whodunnit with a heavy focus on the killer and the crimes.

Thank you for this!

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't think they were good, no. They were perfunctory. He basically admits this anyway over the (best ever in television history, not kidding, fuck the six minute tracking sequence, that's kids stuff) tiara fade sequence. He didn't appreciate what he had, what was there, I can hardly imagine he'd consider that time "good", no matter what he tells people.

I think we're agreeing/saying the same thing, just looking at it differently. I absolutely agree that he likely took the "good" years for granted, but compared to where he came from (alone/dumped by Maggie) and where he ended (not handling his teenage daughter responsibly and ending presumably in the same situation), they were good.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

I think Marty is the type that gets bored when doesn't have the chase. Those months where he had to get back in Maggie's good graces is exactly the type of shit he enjoys.

 

[MikeHaggar]

I don't think they were good, no. They were perfunctory. He basically admits this anyway over the (best ever in television history, not kidding, fuck the six minute tracking sequence, that's kids stuff) tiara fade sequence. He didn't appreciate what he had, what was there, I can hardly imagine he'd consider that time "good", no matter what he tells people.

i feel like the signficance of this scene really went over my head. care to elaborate?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

i feel like the signficance of this scene really went over my head. care to elaborate?

I don't know that it meant anything more than "time passes"; but the subtlety, execution, and poignancy was unparalleled in television filmmaking, I'd say.

You set it up with this full blast Malick sequence of two sisters fighting, one totally emotionally curb stomps the other and throws the tiara into a tree (an already hugely significant symbol in the series), we pull away from the tiara and it's 8 (?) years later, the hurt and pain and meanness is gone, meaningless in the face of progressing time. It's pretty much the central moment of the series, I'd say, maybe the central moment of any executed entertainment in our lifetimes. I don't know that any other television program or film has ever concerned itself as much with emotional consequence in the face of the hard truths of physics and decay and time while keeping a consistent narrative around it to maintain audience interest. Malick touches on this sort of stuff but is unable (or uninterested) in building a plot around it. This is the first time someone has had the same philosophical concerns but understands that people probably need to be entertained in the process.

The only analog to this approach creatively I'd say is David Foster Wallace.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

I think Marty is the type that gets bored when doesn't have the chase. Those months where he had to get back in Maggie's good graces is exactly the type of shit he enjoys.

I'm reading everything in Rust's voice.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't know that it meant anything more than "time passes"; but the subtlety, execution, and poignancy was unparalleled in television filmmaking, I'd say.

You set it up with this full blast Malick sequence of two sisters fighting, one totally emotionally curb stomps the other and throws the tiara into a tree (an already hugely significant symbol in the series), we pull away from the tiara and it's 8 (?) years later, the hurt and pain and meanness is gone, meaningless in the face of progressing time. It's pretty much the central moment of the series, I'd say, maybe the central moment of any executed entertainment in our lifetimes. I don't know that any other television program or film has ever concerned itself as much with emotional consequence in the face of the hard truths of physics and decay and time while keeping a consistent narrative around it to maintain audience interest. Malick touches on this sort of stuff but is unable (or uninterested) in building a plot around it. This is the first time someone has had the same philosophical concerns but understands that people probably need to be entertained in the process.

The only analog to this approach creatively I'd say is David Foster Wallace.

Yup, that scene was/is lovely. I mentioned the Malick connection earlier, really reminded me of Tree of Life. Expertly done.

 

[Socreges]

I don't think they were good, no. They were perfunctory. He basically admits this anyway over the (best ever in television history, not kidding, fuck the six minute tracking sequence, that's kids stuff) tiara fade sequence. He didn't appreciate what he had, what was there, I can hardly imagine he'd consider that time "good", no matter what he tells people.

I don't know that it meant anything more than "time passes"; but the subtlety, execution, and poignancy was unparalleled in television filmmaking, I'd say.

You set it up with this full blast Malick sequence of two sisters fighting, one totally emotionally curb stomps the other and throws the tiara into a tree (an already hugely significant symbol in the series), we pull away from the tiara and it's 8 (?) years later, the hurt and pain and meanness is gone, meaningless in the face of progressing time. It's pretty much the central moment of the series, I'd say, maybe the central moment of any executed entertainment in our lifetimes. I don't know that any other television program or film has ever concerned itself as much with emotional consequence in the face of the hard truths of physics and decay and time while keeping a consistent narrative around it to maintain audience interest. Malick touches on this sort of stuff but is unable (or uninterested) in building a plot around it. This is the first time someone has had the same philosophical concerns but understands that people probably need to be entertained in the process.

The only analog to this approach creatively I'd say is David Foster Wallace.

I feel like you're overstating things here, but I do appreciate your enthusiasm!

 

[Avon Barksdale]

I LOLed.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

There was a similar image used for the episode on HBO Go. Way to fucking ruin the episode, HBO! I've learned to not read the synopsis when I go to watch an episode but putting this damn picture for the episode?! Come on!!!

 

[Mr Cola]

Re-watching the episode, I can really see Cohls storage space becoming key in the next few episodes, a running theory I have is that it will be opened and evidence will e found incriminating him but will most likely be evidence he has accrued about the killer, since they are looking to tie this on him there will be a manhunt. It feels like the most plausible angle but then, I cant imagine Cohl being that sloppy, he has been so careful up to now.

 

[MikeHaggar]

I don't know that it meant anything more than "time passes"; but the subtlety, execution, and poignancy was unparalleled in television filmmaking, I'd say.

You set it up with this full blast Malick sequence of two sisters fighting, one totally emotionally curb stomps the other and throws the tiara into a tree (an already hugely significant symbol in the series), we pull away from the tiara and it's 8 (?) years later, the hurt and pain and meanness is gone, meaningless in the face of progressing time. It's pretty much the central moment of the series, I'd say, maybe the central moment of any executed entertainment in our lifetimes. I don't know that any other television program or film has ever concerned itself as much with emotional consequence in the face of the hard truths of physics and decay and time while keeping a consistent narrative around it to maintain audience interest. Malick touches on this sort of stuff but is unable (or uninterested) in building a plot around it. This is the first time someone has had the same philosophical concerns but understands that people probably need to be entertained in the process.

The only analog to this approach creatively I'd say is David Foster Wallace.

ah, ok. i didn't realize there was a time passage occuring when i watched it. i wondered who the mean little girl was because after throwing the tiara in the tree i saw the older sister get out of the truck. that makes much more sense.

 

[Solo]

Probably gave her a special commendation on her boobs too!