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[SenjutsuSage]

Must say, show is damn good so far. Can't wait to see where it goes next. It's looking like it takes a new and interesting turn next episode -- what with us now starting to get a glimpse of what's going on with present day Cole and Hart. Is it about the coke that Cole stole, or something even more serious?

 

[Extra Sauce]

what is he supposed to do? its a really awkward position to be put in between a married couple on the outs

theres really nothing he can say about marty thats gonna make everything OK

The reason he stood up and left had nothing to do with Marty. She called out Rust on his own denial. I think deep down Rust still loves his family and the nihilistic bravado is at least in part a defense mechanism against grief, which is why he literally escaped the situation once Maggie got through his bullshit.

 

[xxracerxx]

Must say, show is damn good so far. Can't wait to see where it goes next. It's looking like it takes a new and interesting turn next episode -- what with us now starting to get a glimpse of what's going on with present day Cole and Hart. Is it about the coke that Cole stole, or something even more serious?

Or about the current day murder that is like the one in the past even though they thought they captured the killer. The present day stuff is not about the cocaine he stole.

 

[brianjones]

The reason he stood up and left had nothing to do with Marty.

yeah I think I covered that she took her anger out on him and made it personal and insulted him

 

[Dresden]

yeah I think I covered that she took her anger out on him and made it personal and insulted him

She probably felt betrayed that the one person she expected to be honest about this served her some bullshit instead. He tells her that it's not about her, which kinda misses the whole point of this breakup between husband and wife, and prefaces it with some bullshit about biological impulses, etc, etc.

Also saw the moment as the writer cluing in the viewers about how seductive Rust could be - it's so easy to take his side because he's eloquent and badass and hot, but the commentary that he ducks into rationalizations like everyone else is true.

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

finally caught up to the last episode, god damn what a show

 

[SenjutsuSage]

yeah I think I covered that she took her anger out on him and made it personal and insulted him

Yep, she clearly went too far. The gist of what took place there is that she and Cole share a bit of a special relationship, one she's clearly aware of, and it started on that very first night they had dinner together -- when she learned that he lost his daughter, and his marriage couldn't survive the event. What Cole was attempting to tell her, no matter how much she may try to view it as a rationalization, carries with it special significance to Cole, and I feel she understands enough about him at this point to not simply cast aside what he's trying to say.

An important focus in their conversation wasn't so much Hart and her, but the importance of the children being apart of Hart's life, and how, in his view, it's the best part of a marriage. When someone loses his daughter, as Cole did, I would take him at his word when he stresses the almost extreme circumstances that one should be willing to put up with to not break that bond between parent and child. Even if it's, as Maggie says, Cole's own rationalization, stemming from a traumatic experience in his own life, it really shouldn't be generalized as being the exact same as any other man's appeal on the importance of being able to be apart of his children's lives. Maggie has every right to be angry, but I think even she herself realized that she crossed the line a bit with that dismissal of hers. The message in that scene wasn't that Cole didn't get through to her, or that he was the one in the wrong, it's that Maggie, in her anger, was pretty insensitive considering what she knows about the man. There were other ways to end the conversation with Cole without giving any ground to Hart for fucking up, and I think Maggie realizes she chose the wrong route.

Hell, she even clearly enjoyed his company when he was at the house helping out. Remember when Cole came to get Hart from the hospital? Cole and Maggie have an understanding of sorts (take note of the looks and slight nods the two of them exchanged), which makes her dismissal even more cold. I don't exactly condemn her for it, but it could have been handled better.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

She probably felt betrayed that the one person she expected to be honest about this served her some bullshit instead. He tells her that it's not about her, which kinda misses the whole point of this breakup between husband and wife, and prefaces it with some bullshit about biological impulses, etc, etc.

I agree, he's no different from anyone else, but man, what she said to him must have cut deep.

 

[Kadayi]

The reason he stood up and left had nothing to do with Marty. She called out Rust on his own denial. I think deep down Rust still loves his family and the nihilistic bravado is at least in part a defense mechanism against grief, which is why he literally escaped the situation once Maggie got through his bullshit.

Grief and guilt. Given he's repeatedly skipped over the exact circumstances of his daughters death, when normally he's fastidious its pretty much a certainty that he or his wife were directly involved in some fashion.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Grief and guilt. Given he's repeatedly skipped over the exact circumstances of his daughters death, when normally he's fastidious its pretty much a certainty that he or his wife were directly involved in some fashion.

I'm thinking now he might have been under the influence of some kind of drugs, maybe.

 

[Solo]

Why did rust borrow the lawn mower

To free Marty from the oppressive shackles of society's desire to avoid facing the prospect of mortality through meaningless diversions such as "mowing the lawn."

 

[Themacabre]

Blatantly stolen from 4chan mere moments ago

Pretty neat!

 

[Stark]

Blatantly stolen from 4chan mere moments ago

Pretty neat!

Man, he went quite a distance to get to Marty. Only shows his skill and how tense it was.

 

[joesmokey]

Just watched the latest episode and all I can say is wow. This show can get damn tense when it wants to.

That long sequence near the end that was a single camera shot was insane.

 

[verbum]

So far we got evangelists, prostitutes, strippers, meth heads, bikers, devil worshipers, and serial killer(s). What's next? Lawyers?

 

[Lizardus]

Didn't Rusty's daughter die in an accident? I wonder why his nickname was Crash...

 

[Anton Sugar]

Didn't Rusty's daughter die in an accident? I wonder why his nickname was Crash...

That would be a fucked up nickname.

"Oh hey, daughter-killer!"

 

[KHarvey16]

Didn't he talk about his nickname at some point? Or am I remembering something else? It was when his undercover stuff came up with the present day detectives if I'm remembering right.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

So far we got evangelists, prostitutes, strippers, meth heads, bikers, devil worshipers, and serial killer(s). What's next? Lawyers?

Governors.

 

[UrbanRats]

First episode to genuinely impress me, that final sequence was something, wow.
Also happy that Marty is getting some heat, about time...

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

So far we got evangelists, prostitutes, strippers, meth heads, bikers, devil worshipers, and serial killer(s). What's next? Lawyers?

Isn't that covered under devil worshippers?

 

[lamaroo]

So far we got evangelists, prostitutes, strippers, meth heads, bikers, devil worshipers, and serial killer(s). What's next? Lawyers?

Cops, amirite!?

 

[dimb]

She probably felt betrayed that the one person she expected to be honest about this served her some bullshit instead. He tells her that it's not about her, which kinda misses the whole point of this breakup between husband and wife, and prefaces it with some bullshit about biological impulses, etc, etc.

Also saw the moment as the writer cluing in the viewers about how seductive Rust could be - it's so easy to take his side because he's eloquent and badass and hot, but the commentary that he ducks into rationalizations like everyone else is true.

Is it really bullshit though? To someone who lost their kid that's probably what he sees as being the most important part of the relationship.

 

[Dresden]

Is it really bullshit though? To someone who lost their kid that's probably what he sees as being the most important part of the relationship.

It feels like he's avoiding why his marriage failed when he focuses on the death of his child versus the distance that was there between him and his wife. Not that his daughter's death is trivial, but I wonder if he's ever reflected on why the marriage held together, only to collapse, at that point.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Governors.

I've been thinking this

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

It feels like he's avoiding why his marriage failed when he focuses on the death of his child versus the distance that was there between him and his wife. Not that his daughter's death is trivial, but I wonder if he's ever reflected on why the marriage held together, only to collapse, at that point.

Not every marriage can survive such tragedy. Looking at Cohle now, I can imagine he just spiraled into a deep, dark depression that he never fully emerged from.

 

[UrbanRats]

It feels like he's avoiding why his marriage failed when he focuses on the death of his child versus the distance that was there between him and his wife. Not that his daughter's death is trivial, but I wonder if he's ever reflected on why the marriage held together, only to collapse, at that point.

Perhaps, though she wasn't in the position to be that crude, imo.
She's certainly dealing with a dickhead of a husband, so it's understandable, but losing a kid can put a strain on a relationship that i don't think she can relate to with complete honesty, just because of what Marty did.

 

[movie_club]

 

[Dresden]

Not every marriage can survive such tragedy. Looking at Cohle now, I can imagine he just spiraled into a deep, dark depression that he never fully emerged from.

Looking at the missive above, he got screwed pretty hard, although he did escape jail time. I wonder if young Cohle resembled the somewhat voluble drunk we see in 2012.

Perhaps, though she wasn't in the position to be that crude, imo.
She's certainly dealing with a dickhead of a husband, so it's understandable, but losing a kid can put a strain on a relationship that i don't think she can relate to with complete honesty, just because of what Marty did.

Yeah, it was definitely a low blow. At the same time I don't think she was wrong.

 

[Staccat0]

Why did I read that?

I was saying to a friend today, it'd be neat if this thing got all lovecraft. The show exists (at last in the 1995 version of the show) in some sort of dark and heightened version of our world. More drastic and forboding.

 

[Iceman]

That's what she said.

 

[Draconian]

Yeah, it was definitely a low blow. At the same time I don't think she was wrong.

I think it was a bit of both of these being true that made him get up and leave.

 

[potam]

Where's that from? And the fact that his name is Rustin just makes him that much more of a badass.

 

[Tim the Wiz]

She probably felt betrayed that the one person she expected to be honest about this served her some bullshit instead. He tells her that it's not about her, which kinda misses the whole point of this breakup between husband and wife, and prefaces it with some bullshit about biological impulses, etc, etc.

Also saw the moment as the writer cluing in the viewers about how seductive Rust could be - it's so easy to take his side because he's eloquent and badass and hot, but the commentary that he ducks into rationalizations like everyone else is true.

Yup. I think the writer of the show has explicitly hinted that Rust is just as unreliable a narrator as anyone else, although that's of course implicit in the way this whole season is framed.

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

Just saw latest episode. Jesus is it confirmed that final shot was one continuous shot? No camera tricks or anything? If so GOD DAMN. That's insane.

 

[Cornballer]

Where's that from? And the fact that his name is Rustin just makes him that much more of a badass.

It's off the HBO teaser site darknessbecomesyou.com

 

[JCreasy]

Whoa, where did this come from?

EDIT: nevermind

 

[ezekial45]

Not to turn this into a tumblr/reddit love fest, but I do love me some good fanart.

 

[PhoenixDark]

That AV Club review pointed out the Boogie Down Productions track in the strip club but not Sleep's Holy Mountain & the Melvins A History of Bad Men playing in the Biker bar?

Weak.

BDP was more out of place. You could argue the same about Wu Tang in the stash house; almost nobody n the south was listening to east coast rap circa 1995. Regardless the song was perfect for the tone of that scene.

Great episode, great show. Not sure they can top that shit, although both detectives have alluded to a shoot out in the woods/saving some kids.

 

[Mr.Swag]

I felt like I was there ribbon that stash house... Last 30 min of that episode is as good as any BrBa ep.

 

[potam]

Not to turn this into a tumblr/reddit love fest, but I do love me some good fanart.

So fucking good.

 

[Socreges]

I never noticed Rust's skinny jeans until now.

 

[Fallout-NL]

She probably felt betrayed that the one person she expected to be honest about this served her some bullshit instead. He tells her that it's not about her, which kinda misses the whole point of this breakup between husband and wife, and prefaces it with some bullshit about biological impulses, etc, etc.

Also saw the moment as the writer cluing in the viewers about how seductive Rust could be - it's so easy to take his side because he's eloquent and badass and hot, but the commentary that he ducks into rationalizations like everyone else is true.

His rationalizations being spot on is what makes him so interesting though.

Just saw latest episode. Jesus is it confirmed that final shot was one continuous shot? No camera tricks or anything? If so GOD DAMN. That's insane.

Yeah that was - fucking - incredible.

Holy shit, if this show manages to keep this up... I'm starting to like it as much as the Wire. The dialogue is jaw droppingly good almost all of the time and if they keep backing that up with incredible sequences like that last moment... wow.

 

[Jake.]

amazing episode, but one thing that bothered me - rust had been shooting up, freebasing, drinking AND snorting blow yet he seemed coherent and was like a gun-ho rambo but in reality he would be on another fucking planet and barely able to stand (even if he was a junkie previously).

was the gas mask dude (end of e3) in e4 or not? i got kind of confused at the start.

i also read a funny thing on twitter the other day - "the most unbelievable thing about true detective is that its set in the 90's but they're wearing slim, fitted shirts".

 

[Gouty]

Just saw latest episode. Jesus is it confirmed that final shot was one continuous shot? No camera tricks or anything? If so GOD DAMN. That's insane.

I don't think it was. About halfway through there's a shot where the camera shoots the night sky and a helicopter flies over and then back down to follow Rust into a house. I think those are two separate cuts edited together.

As for the quality of the episode I wasn't really impressed with it, I thought the first three were better. mathew's fight scenes looked stiff and hokey, like I was watching an 80's cop show where the star just one hits his way out of any situation because fuck you, he's the Fall Guy!

 

[Tom_Cody]

"With all that dick swagger you can't spot crazy pussy?"

- Rust Cohle

Michael Jordan of being son a bitch.

I died.

 

[KHarvey16]

I don't think it was. About halfway through there's a shot where the camera shoots the night sky and a helicopter flies over and then back down to follow Rust into a house. I think those are two separate cuts edited together.

As for the quality of the episode I wasn't really impressed with it, I thought the first three were better. mathew's fight scenes looked stiff and hokey, like I was watching an 80's cop show where the star just one hits his way out of any situation because fuck you, he's the Fall Guy!

It was one continuous shot according to the director. They incorporated points where they could edit if they needed to but they were able to do it in one and that's what they aired.

 

[BBboy20]

I don't have HBO but even I've seen the scene. Like jesus!

Aren't they hunting a serial killer? Seems like people are getting killed just trying to find the purp.

 

[Tom_Cody]

I don't have HBO but even I've seen the scene. Like jesus!

Aren't they hunting a serial killer? Seems like people are getting killed just trying to find the purp.

Sort of? The last episode kind of took a hard right turn. A Michael Mann thriller appeared out of nowhere. All of that action was tangential to the guy they are pursuing.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

i also read a funny thing on twitter the other day - "the most unbelievable thing about true detective is that its set in the 90's but they're wearing slim, fitted shirts".

I dont get it.