kikonawa
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No a slim is an identical console but in a ‘slim’ housing so to speak. This is a 33% xbxSx. The names get fok confusing
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Xbox Series S Won’t Apply Xbox One X Enhancements, Microsoft Confirms
- Thread starter DeadOblivion78
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The problem here is this machine will run many games from current gen to 720p (Xbox one s profile)
Mister Wolf
Member
Guess you will be buying a Series X.
I don’t know what I will buy (PS5,XSS,XSX or even PC)
Journey
Banned
Series S behaves like an S console
Series X behaves like an X console
News at 11.
Seriously though, it looks like XSS will enhance BC games, just not to the degree that X1X did because it won't be outputting them at 4K, instead at 1440p, but will still benefit from the superior filtering and framerate.
Makes sense to me.
Series X behaves like an X console
News at 11.
Seriously though, it looks like XSS will enhance BC games, just not to the degree that X1X did because it won't be outputting them at 4K, instead at 1440p, but will still benefit from the superior filtering and framerate.
Makes sense to me.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Peasants?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The expectations is that the lowest end of the new generation is faster even if nominally so than the highest end of the previous generation... until MS decided to bring the helpful PC GPU like branding over... do we expect AMD old school GPU rebrands next
?
ResilientBanana
Member
Don't need 4k assets when you're outputting at 1440p.
Journey
Banned
I'm getting myself an Xbox Series X and connecting to my 77" OLED display in my livingroom. My son will get an Xbox Series S to connect to his 50" LED 1080p display down in the basement "play room". I wouldn't call myself a "Peasant", so I guess Xbox Series S is aimed at the "Parent"
Close enough lol.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
MS has said that every Xbox Series X Optimized game will also be Series S Optimized.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/optimized
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anothertech
Member
Of course it's going to constrain designs. The games have to run on both.
Xbox can't catch a dam break.
Journey
Banned
Xss deal gets worse by the minute it seems.damn
Imagine playing many x1 games in 900p in 2020
jimbojim
Banned
So, another Xbox optimized badge???
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I would imagine they just combine them into one badge.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
77? Are you adopting?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
The X1X has a significantly worse CPU and a GPU with way less advanced graphical features. The XSS beats the X1X in the features that matter most and IT'S NOT THE UPGRADE TO THE X1X. It's the upgrade to the X1. Does the XSS beat the X1 is the real question and we all know the answer to that. Arguments about the XSS and X1X are silly.
JustP_Gaming
Banned
You Sony fans should be wondering where a real PS5 is, instead of debating the Series S.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
They are mad MS showed two consoles with hands on and teardowns before Sony showed one. For some reason it's always MS that garners the most 'concern'. They should be 'concerned' about the low system SOC yields.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
There is not much to debate despite circling of the wagons here and in the resurrected other thread around the one single developer who was “not negative” about XSS vs XSX while we have a lot of other edge cutting tech developers saying min specs do matter and XSS can and will hold back the XSX or better what the XSX could deliver if people developed for it exclusively and the XSS did not exist.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I wonder how many of those 'concerned' developers spoke to MS about assistance with game development seeing how they are having such problems. Doesn't MS provide tech support to show devs how that can maximize the performance of their console. Twitter seems like an odd place to request help. One of the devs admitted he didn't even have a XSS|X dev kit. How credible are these complaints if you don't even have a kit?
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Auto HDR confirmed
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Maybe they are not “asking for help”, maybe they are voicing their dissatisfaction with something they know they can work with, but we’re hoping it would be better or just not exist not to force constraints on their XSX ambitions? Sure, all ignorant developers who have never been briefed by MS with specs and whose jobs is not literally evaluate technology choices from vendors. They problem is that they did not contact tech support.
Principal and Lead Engine developers at Id/Bethesda not having the devkit and/or detailed documentation a few months ahead of launch? I refuse to think MS is so so late with their HW or incompetent, but if you prefer thinking this than criticise MS’s message on the XSS..
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Jason Ronald one of the engineers of the new Xbox consoles stated developers can scale the games down to the XSS with minimal effort. Perhaps they need to talk to him to figure out of that is done. I suppose he could read their Twitter feeds but I am surprised there isn't a more direct form of communication. Maybe you're right MS is just incompetent with software development and has no developer outreach.
Developers always want the best hardware but a world where only RTX 3090 cards exist wouldn't' have a very large gaming audience would it. I'm pretty sure MS thought about scaling between the consoles and those devs didn't make some sort of new discovery. Until there is proof that XSS can't scale down the XSX version of game this is all just more 'concern' to add to the huge mound about everything that is Xbox. I still don't get it especially if so many are so happy with PS4/5. How do you have the time to worry about what MS is doing when you have so many wonderful PS games? It's just as silly as wondering how the XSS isn't the upgrade for the X1X instead of the XSX.
FeiRR
Banned
Do you really think that a supporter of the dominating platform in console gaming really cares about underdog competition? Having a laugh at Craig or at clueless guesses of Xbox fans about technology is one thing but caring is another. Why would I care about Xbox? I haven't even seen one in person for years. It does not exist in my gaming environment. Just like Internet caps or cheques, it's part of some weird, old-fashioned culture that tries to be more vocal about it's importance than it actually is.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Does this mean Series S will have better enhancements than Xbox 1 X Not tailored to 4k?
Or that it cant have the enhancements because its not stronger than the X1X?
Or that it cant have the enhancements because its not stronger than the X1X?
CAB_Life
Member
So many warriors to be lost in the Great War of 2020.
skneogaf
Member
I'm very interested to see the improvements that unpatched games will have as the xbox one was severely underpowered so always dropped fps or visual quality if it was struggling depending on what techniques the developer put in.
The assassin's creed game with high cpu usage will be interesting.
The assassin's creed game with high cpu usage will be interesting.