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[Enter the Dragon Punch]

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...shmen_at_UPenn_with__lynching_.html?mobi=true

University of Pennsylvania officials said Saturday that a student from the University of Oklahoma has been suspended -- and more people may be involved -- for targeting Penn black freshmen with racist hate messages in a cell phone text-messaging app under the group name "N- Lynching."

Penn President Amy Gutmann said her counterpart at the University of Oklahoma, David Boren, had called her to report the temporary suspension of the student, who was not named. The suspension came early in an investigation by the FBI and campus police at both universities.

"Penn Police will continue to work with the FBI and University of Oklahoma Police in completing the investigation, as additional individuals may be involved," Gutmann said.

The messages came from a person or people using the name “Daddy Trump.” “Heil Trump” also was written in the messages by the group, calling itself "MudMen."

A calendar function in the GroupMe app scheduled several "N- Lynchings," including a "daily lynching" for Friday. The group also included references to "SAE." The national fraternity Sigma Alpha Epsilon is often referred to by that abbreviation. A second message, from someone who posted under the name GORT, said "message Heil Trump."

One posting displayed an old image of a lynching with the note "I love America."

In all, the messages named 161 people, including those who created the group and the students who were targeted.

I just... What? Why?

Why would you ever do this kind of thing to other human beings? Why is the suspension only temporary?

Just so many questions.

Lock if old.

 

[Beartruck]

Punushment doesn't go far enough, but the fact that this is so openly vilified does give me some hope.

 

[BajiBoxer]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

How is this not an expulsion?

 

[djkimothy]

I guess it's something americans have to get used to...

 

[HStallion]

Shouldn't this be a full expulsion?

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

How is this not an expulsion?

Just an innocent kid repeating what they heard from mommy and daddy. You have to give them a chance to learn and grow as a person. The old racists will be dead soon.

/s

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Shouldn't this be a full expulsion?

Not in Trump's America. This kid has to put food on the table eventually!

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

How is this not an expulsion?

Shouldn't this be a full expulsion?

Only thing I can think of is if they're waiting for the FBI to handle it and are just suspending temporarily until they figure out what to do? Maybe?

 

[HeySeuss]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

Is it a public school or private? That makes a big difference because a state funded public school it's very difficult to expel someone permanently.

 

[Anoregon]

Not even a little surprised to see there may be an SAE connection. They weren't even a legitimate/recognized frat where I went went to school and were the absolute worst stereotype of fratboy assholes.

 

[HStallion]

Is it a public school or private? That makes a big difference because a state funded public school it's very difficult to expel someone permanently.

I don't know. I went to a state school albeit in New York and I knew kids who were expelled over some stupid shit.

 

[tapedeck]

Ugh.

 

[HeySeuss]

I don't know. I went to a state school albeit in New York and I knew kids who were expelled over some stupid shit.

Usually the cap is 8 semesters, although some schools have safety nets in place that they can set conditions of returning like being cleared by a psychologist, making sure they are properly medicated, attend certain trainings, etc. If you don't meet the conditions then you can't come back. So it may sometimes seem like expulsion, but they may not be willing do complete whatever is asked of them.

It probably does depend on the state though.

 

[HStallion]

Usually the cap is 8 semesters, although some schools have safety nets in place that they can set conditions of returning like being cleared by a psychologist, making sure they are properly medicated, attend certain trainings, etc. If you don't meet the conditions then you can't come back. So it may sometimes seem like expulsion, but they may not be willing do complete whatever is asked of them.

It probably does depend on the state though.

Yeah NY might just be harsher. I knew a good friend who got expelled because cops found what they thought was a coke straw in his room. Too be honest it was probably a coke straw but no actual drugs were found even after a drug dog was brought in.

 

[giga]

SAE at Oklahoma was infamous for singing: “You can hang ‘em from a tree, but it will never start with me/There will never be a nigger SAE.”

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBq4_A9nQvw

Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_University_of_Oklahoma_Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon_racism_incident

 

[Htown]

Just a reminder of what Sigma Alpha Epsilon is all about:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/us/oklahoma-fraternity-chant/index.html

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

SAE at Oklahoma was infamous for singing: “You can hang ‘em from a tree, but it will never start with me/There will never be a nigger SAE.”

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBq4_A9nQvw

Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_University_of_Oklahoma_Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon_racism_incident

Only 2 people were expelled due to this btw. Just the two who started it. No one who joined in was expelled.

 

[Alucrid]

pa sure fucking went red

The racism came in a week marred with other homophobic, anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant incidents at Penn and other schools around the region and nation. At Penn, a female student from Massachusetts reported being called an anti-gay slur and another student reported patrons at a campus bar screaming "build that wall" -- a reference to GOP candidate Donald Trump's promise to wall out Mexican immigrants -- early Wednesday when it became evident that Trump had won the election.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Only 2 people were expelled due to this btw. Just the two who started it. No one who joined in was expelled.

The future leaders of our country.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

Right? What is this slap on the wrist shit? He doesn't belong in school.

 

[joe2187]

Right? What is this slap on the wrist shit? He doesn't belong in school.

Their parents money has no prejudice.

 

[Sydle]

Sad it wasn't expulsion.

 

[Nepenthe]

They're just anxious about the economy and jobs.

 

[Deku Tree]

Another article: http://billypenn.com/2016/11/11/n-er-lynching-group-text-shocks-penn-freshmen/

 

[Lights and Waves]

They're just anxious about the economy and jobs.

Right!?

 

[SeanC]

Just [whites only] locker room talk.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Another article: http://billypenn.com/2016/11/11/n-er-lynching-group-text-shocks-penn-freshmen/

First one I've seen that has screenshots.

Fucking subhuman pieces of shit. Hope they get slammed hard by the FBI investigation.

 

[Infinite]

This is getting wild. Someone at my girlfriends dorm draw a swastika on another students dorm.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

Suspension? Expulsions? Ha, they should be in court and hopefully jail. Now admittedly I'm speaking from emotion there rather than any legal knowledge, but this should be nipped in the bud right now.

If a suspension or expulsion is all you get, that potentially means there's no punishment at all for anyone doing this that isn't at a university, and I just hope that isn't right

 

[Crayon]

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

It's like the unchecked online harassment is bleeding into reality. This is really bad.

 

[jett]

Trump isn't president yet and the country is already going down the shitter.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Suspension? Expulsions? Ha, they should be in court and hopefully jail. Now admittedly I'm speaking from emotion there rather than any legal knowledge, but this should be nipped in the bud right now.

If a suspension or expulsion is all you get, that potentially means there's no punishment at all for anyone doing this that isn't at a university, and I just hope that isn't right

Expulsion? They should be part of Trump's cabinet.

 

[Jazzy Network]

PA is the new Florida.

 

[joe2187]

Expulsion? They should be part of Trump's cabinet.

"Clearly these students are passionate and motivated, the kind of leadership skills needed to run this country. They're not afraid to speak their minds and tell it like it is"

 

[HStallion]

PA is the new Florida.

The name Pennsyltucky was coined for rather obvious and sad reasons.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Temporary suspension? Fuck that, they should be expelled.

Temporary suspensions are normal as investigations continue and student conduct hearings happen.

Public schools are required to give students due process.

 

[Avixph]

Do you peeps really think that the FBI is going on do anything about this?

 

[clearacell]

Shouldn't this be a full expulsion?

probably just an initial first step...or keep him a student to justify further investigation then completely expel him when they bleed the story dry.

 

[Apathy]

Here you go white America that keeps telling minorities "everything will be OK just relax". You gave a demagogue a soap box, he gave bigots hope and racist more credence that the ways of the past would return with white nationalism.

 

[Violence Jack]

It is good to see a lot of students protesting and calling this shit out. Didn't know it was SAE again. Might be time for some of these chapters to be shut down at certain universities since there's a history now of this kind of behavior from this fraternity. Hope the people involved are expelled and put on their permanent records.

 

[Beefy]

Saw this shit on Twitter, disgusting.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

Nothings worse than cotton picker, you're a nigger, heil hitler

 

[Snowybreak]

PA is the new Florida.

If you are anywhere in rural PA, it's like being in West Virginia. Pennsyltucky is rather accurate.

 

[Dram]

Is it okay to call these people racists or will that hurt their feelings and cause them to vote Republican again next election?

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

edit: wrong thread, my bad

 

[Joe]

 

[Reg]

Trump's America.

 

[faisal233]

How come Ashyln Ball hasn't been expelled?

 

[Tubobutts]

College educated people can't be racist though.