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Too Human to ditch UE3?
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beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Odysseus said:
yeah, i've been pushed over the edge.
no going back now.
DreamMachine
Member
Ark-AMN said:Hmm, that is interesting, too bad Denis will never come in here and comment himself, cause all you bastards chased him away!
Though I guess I can see the wording being key here, though Dyack told me at E3 that UE3 was already heavily modded. I think a part of the rumor hinged around X06. Anyone know when that is going to take place?
you should be scolded for this rumor!!
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Ark-AMN said:Mine's merely missplaced, just in the off hand that I should have to go digging around for it should the game still turn out ok.
You might need some of this if you should decide to go "digging around" for it
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
MrSardonic said:You might need some of this if you should decide to go "digging around" for it
anal
Hey guys,
I see a lot of people commenting on how UE3 might be "heavily modified" for Too Human.
I'm not too sure how common this practice is, but Midway, which is using UE3 for all of its next-gen development, is another example of a company that uses the engine in significantly modified form. In fact, they call their version of UE3 "Midway Core." I'm not sure whether or not this means that the engine is inadequate in its initial state, or if it's just a matter of tailoring it to meet developer needs.
Also, not sure if this is a revelation to anyone or not, but there are apparently a lot of devs out there (who would rather go unnamed) that think UE3 really is a bitch to work with. Even Midway said that there was a "cultural hurdle" to overcome with its tech guys in the studios when the execs decided to go UE3 across the whole company.
Still, as a gamer, what can I say... the good UE3 games look damn kick-ass.
I see a lot of people commenting on how UE3 might be "heavily modified" for Too Human.
I'm not too sure how common this practice is, but Midway, which is using UE3 for all of its next-gen development, is another example of a company that uses the engine in significantly modified form. In fact, they call their version of UE3 "Midway Core." I'm not sure whether or not this means that the engine is inadequate in its initial state, or if it's just a matter of tailoring it to meet developer needs.
Also, not sure if this is a revelation to anyone or not, but there are apparently a lot of devs out there (who would rather go unnamed) that think UE3 really is a bitch to work with. Even Midway said that there was a "cultural hurdle" to overcome with its tech guys in the studios when the execs decided to go UE3 across the whole company.
Still, as a gamer, what can I say... the good UE3 games look damn kick-ass.
antoniogaud
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You guys might want to read this on Next-Gen
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3636&Itemid=2
Microsoft: Silicon Knights Still Using UE3
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3636&Itemid=2
Microsoft: Silicon Knights Still Using UE3
DreamMachine
Member
^ it was posted already
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
People actually thought Microsoft would allow this game to be delayed for at least another year? Hah
EDIT: They are most likely modifying the hell out of some portions of the engine as some have already stipulated hence why the unfounded claims of them switching engines.
EDIT: They are most likely modifying the hell out of some portions of the engine as some have already stipulated hence why the unfounded claims of them switching engines.
Spider_Jerusalem
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I think they're doing a favor to Epic. With that rumor, people started thinking that UE3 isn't suited for 360, and this could somewhat damage the company's name/image. So, I think MS clarifying this is much more in aid of Epic than SKArk-AMN said:
Well, I suppose that could be it, though Epic and MS don't really have that big of a relationship (one's not owned by the other, etc.).Spider_Jerusalem said:I think they're doing a favor to Epic. With that rumor, people started thinking that UE3 isn't suited for 360, and this could somewhat damage the company's name/image. So, I think MS clarifying this is much more in aid of Epic than SK
More I think about it, more it sounds like SK is modifying the engine so much that it no longer resembles the normal UE3 system. Though I've heard more people confirm our original story as being accurate.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I will buy this game day one. It looks and sounds like a great game and I go back to the Too Human article in EGM and the comments made by those who have seen it in action.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Ark-AMN said:And there we are, confirmation!
wait, sarcasm?
or does element know too much!?
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Ark-AMN said:heh, maybe a little of both?
I sure won't quote him in an article if that's what your asking. Don't think he'd appreciate it anyway.
does everyone but me know who he is?
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Story is getting interesting, it's like a drama I love it.
Spider_Jerusalem said:I think they're doing a favor to Epic. With that rumor, people started thinking that UE3 isn't suited for 360, and this could somewhat damage the company's name/image. So, I think MS clarifying this is much more in aid of Epic than SK
More likely that a developer liaison at MS got wind of this, got on the phone with Dyack, and told him, 'Stop pretending to be George Broussard. We want these games to ship before the end of the century, so you're going to tell the media you're sticking with UE3, then get your ass back to work. We've let much bigger names in the industry go, so don't think we'll hesitate to cut you, Denis. You're not playing for Nintendo anymore.'
(In other words, I think it's the other way around. Epic already has a great reputation when it comes to the Unreal engine. SK's track record as a developer... not so much. 'Our demo was running much better before we upgraded to the latest revision of UE3, but all the archived copies of our earlier demo code mysteriously disappeared so we had to go to E3 with a lousy demo oh God it's all their fault I hate you Epic' didn't help matters any either.)
Of course, all this assumes that they really aren't ditching UE3, which after looking at some of the later posts, still seems to be in doubt. In that case, the above is what a dev liaison should do ASAP if they want to see these games ship before the end of the century.
This game could be called Daikatana2. Anyway, I think people should chill on the Dyack hate. The guy may not be your favorite, but he's just an honest guy trying to make a game. I thought it was cool that a dev reads this forum and is willing to post here, but not he's not likely to stick around if he just gets shit all the time. The Dyack hate is creeping up there with the Vic Ireland hate. PEACE.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
LiveFromKyoto said:
its confirmed "around 30fps" via the last 1up Yours.
that was a very entertaining podcast btw.
sugarhigh4242 said:
I'm also curious to see what kind of framerate Mass Effect (the other UE3 game that's getting visual praise) will have. Although they (BioWare) may not need to take it all the way up to 60fps because it is an RPG. Though I think if the can't get a steady 30, then there's something wrong.
meltpotato
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sp0rsk said:
i imagine if that happens, it will be on his dev blog on IGN
Ninja Scooter
Member
sp0rsk said:
let me summon him then.
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element
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MS could drop then at any point.
And like I said, I'm going off what I was hearing, by no means is it 100%.
HT was pitched to MS, and they passed. Of course this was when Argonaut (JAM was owned by Argonaut) was going through some rough times, so from MS perspective it probably wasn't a good business move to partner with someone who might not be in business much longer.
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